Anonymous
10/16/2019 08:55
Subject: Re:'07 DMV Boys Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Youth Soccer Rankings, although not perfect, is the best tool out there for tournament directors to use to determine divisions. I actually think it's quite reliable. I don't know of anything better that's for sure. certainly not GotSoccer.
It's just aggregated a bit differently than GotSoccer, but it's all from the same source which leans heavily on teams that play lots of tournaments or has a league that tracks schedules in got soccer.
Got Soccer is based on points. So winning (or being a finalist) tournaments gets you points. Each tournament is assigned different points. You also get points for winning leagues, state cup, etc. So for example, say a team wins a tournament in the top division. They may get 1500 Got Soccer points. The finalist might get 750 and the 3rd place team zero. The champion and finalist in the 2nd flight gets points as well. and so on. however, why should the champ of the 2nd flight get more points than the 3rd place team in the top flight? So this is a problem. Youth Soccer looks at every head to head match up and they take into consideration the score. So that 3rd place team in the top division won't be "punished" for not winning under the Youth Soccer system. They can actually move up if they played a close game against better competition. To the best of my knowledge, Youth Soccer does not pull in CCL games or NPL games. It pulls in EDP and NCSL games for sure. Anyway, I think it's a much better system to look at head to head results as opposed to being based solely on points given to winning tournaments, etc.
Anonymous
10/16/2019 08:36
Subject: Re:'07 DMV Boys Discussion
Anonymous wrote:I think Youth Soccer Rankings, although not perfect, is the best tool out there for tournament directors to use to determine divisions. I actually think it's quite reliable. I don't know of anything better that's for sure. certainly not GotSoccer.
It's just aggregated a bit differently than GotSoccer, but it's all from the same source which leans heavily on teams that play lots of tournaments or has a league that tracks schedules in got soccer.
Anonymous
10/15/2019 17:58
Subject: Re:'07 DMV Boys Discussion
I think Youth Soccer Rankings, although not perfect, is the best tool out there for tournament directors to use to determine divisions. I actually think it's quite reliable. I don't know of anything better that's for sure. certainly not GotSoccer.
Anonymous
10/15/2019 12:56
Subject: Re:'07 DMV Boys Discussion
Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure if all the weekend results are factored in yet but anyway....below is from Youth Soccer Rankings.
Maryland's Top 10
1 PIPELINE SC PRE ACADEMY [5] 35.28
2 ACHILLES FC [54] 33.96
3 CALVERTON SC CERRITOS [60] 33.88
4 SA OF COLUMBIA PRE ACADEMY SPURS [67] 33.82
5 POTOMAC SA BLUE [162] 32.95
6 MATRIX SA MAESTROS [251] 32.51
7 BRAUSA UNITED FC [323] 32.22
8 BALTIMORE UNION SC ELITE [365] 32.09
9 OBGC RANGERS BLUE [374] 32.05
10 PLAYER PROGRESSION ACADEMY GREEN [396] 31.97
Virginia top 10
1 SPRINGFIELD SOUTH COUNTY YOUTH CLUB LIONS BLUE [160] 32.96
2 ALEXANDRIA SA RED [193] 32.80
3 SOCA CVILLE ELITE [223] 32.64
4 STERLING SC YSA ORANGE [306] 32.30
5 ARLINGTON SA RED [362] 32.11
6 GREAT FALLS RESTON SC ELITE NPL [377] 32.05
7 ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY [389] 32.01
8 VIRGINIA SA NPL ELITE [413] 31.93
9 SOUTHWESTERN YOUTH ASSOCIATION YA CARDINALS RED [467] 31.78
10 BURKE ATHLETIC CLUB UNITED [472] 31.77
Here it is combined
1 PIPELINE SC PRE ACADEMY [5] 35.28
2 ACHILLES FC [54] 33.96
3 CALVERTON SC CERRITOS [60] 33.88
4 SA OF COLUMBIA PRE ACADEMY SPURS [67] 33.82
1 SPRINGFIELD SOUTH COUNTY YOUTH CLUB LIONS BLUE [160] 32.96
5 POTOMAC SA BLUE [162] 32.95
2 ALEXANDRIA SA RED [193] 32.80
3 SOCA CVILLE ELITE [223] 32.64
6 MATRIX SA MAESTROS [251] 32.51
4 STERLING SC YSA ORANGE [306] 32.30
7 BRAUSA UNITED FC [323] 32.22
5 ARLINGTON SA RED [362] 32.11
8 BALTIMORE UNION SC ELITE [365] 32.09
9 OBGC RANGERS BLUE [374] 32.05
6 GREAT FALLS RESTON SC ELITE NPL [377] 32.05
7 ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY [389] 32.01
10 PLAYER PROGRESSION ACADEMY GREEN [396] 31.97
8 VIRGINIA SA NPL ELITE [413] 31.93
9 SOUTHWESTERN YOUTH ASSOCIATION YA CARDINALS RED [467] 31.78
10 BURKE ATHLETIC CLUB UNITED [472] 31.77
DMV is too fragmented to accurately use these rankings for anything more than pure entertainment. Most of these teams are plus/minus 3 rankings.
Anonymous
10/15/2019 10:35
Subject: Re:'07 DMV Boys Discussion
I'm not sure if all the weekend results are factored in yet but anyway....below is from Youth Soccer Rankings.
Maryland's Top 10
1 PIPELINE SC PRE ACADEMY [5] 35.28
2 ACHILLES FC [54] 33.96
3 CALVERTON SC CERRITOS [60] 33.88
4 SA OF COLUMBIA PRE ACADEMY SPURS [67] 33.82
5 POTOMAC SA BLUE [162] 32.95
6 MATRIX SA MAESTROS [251] 32.51
7 BRAUSA UNITED FC [323] 32.22
8 BALTIMORE UNION SC ELITE [365] 32.09
9 OBGC RANGERS BLUE [374] 32.05
10 PLAYER PROGRESSION ACADEMY GREEN [396] 31.97
Virginia top 10
1 SPRINGFIELD SOUTH COUNTY YOUTH CLUB LIONS BLUE [160] 32.96
2 ALEXANDRIA SA RED [193] 32.80
3 SOCA CVILLE ELITE [223] 32.64
4 STERLING SC YSA ORANGE [306] 32.30
5 ARLINGTON SA RED [362] 32.11
6 GREAT FALLS RESTON SC ELITE NPL [377] 32.05
7 ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY [389] 32.01
8 VIRGINIA SA NPL ELITE [413] 31.93
9 SOUTHWESTERN YOUTH ASSOCIATION YA CARDINALS RED [467] 31.78
10 BURKE ATHLETIC CLUB UNITED [472] 31.77
Here it is combined
1 PIPELINE SC PRE ACADEMY [5] 35.28
2 ACHILLES FC [54] 33.96
3 CALVERTON SC CERRITOS [60] 33.88
4 SA OF COLUMBIA PRE ACADEMY SPURS [67] 33.82
1 SPRINGFIELD SOUTH COUNTY YOUTH CLUB LIONS BLUE [160] 32.96
5 POTOMAC SA BLUE [162] 32.95
2 ALEXANDRIA SA RED [193] 32.80
3 SOCA CVILLE ELITE [223] 32.64
6 MATRIX SA MAESTROS [251] 32.51
4 STERLING SC YSA ORANGE [306] 32.30
7 BRAUSA UNITED FC [323] 32.22
5 ARLINGTON SA RED [362] 32.11
8 BALTIMORE UNION SC ELITE [365] 32.09
9 OBGC RANGERS BLUE [374] 32.05
6 GREAT FALLS RESTON SC ELITE NPL [377] 32.05
7 ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY [389] 32.01
10 PLAYER PROGRESSION ACADEMY GREEN [396] 31.97
8 VIRGINIA SA NPL ELITE [413] 31.93
9 SOUTHWESTERN YOUTH ASSOCIATION YA CARDINALS RED [467] 31.78
10 BURKE ATHLETIC CLUB UNITED [472] 31.77
Maryland's Top 10
1 PIPELINE SC PRE ACADEMY [5] 35.28
2 ACHILLES FC [54] 33.96
3 CALVERTON SC CERRITOS [60] 33.88
4 SA OF COLUMBIA PRE ACADEMY SPURS [67] 33.82
5 POTOMAC SA BLUE [162] 32.95
6 MATRIX SA MAESTROS [251] 32.51
7 BRAUSA UNITED FC [323] 32.22
8 BALTIMORE UNION SC ELITE [365] 32.09
9 OBGC RANGERS BLUE [374] 32.05
10 PLAYER PROGRESSION ACADEMY GREEN [396] 31.97
Virginia top 10
1 SPRINGFIELD SOUTH COUNTY YOUTH CLUB LIONS BLUE [160] 32.96
2 ALEXANDRIA SA RED [193] 32.80
3 SOCA CVILLE ELITE [223] 32.64
4 STERLING SC YSA ORANGE [306] 32.30
5 ARLINGTON SA RED [362] 32.11
6 GREAT FALLS RESTON SC ELITE NPL [377] 32.05
7 ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY [389] 32.01
8 VIRGINIA SA NPL ELITE [413] 31.93
9 SOUTHWESTERN YOUTH ASSOCIATION YA CARDINALS RED [467] 31.78
10 BURKE ATHLETIC CLUB UNITED [472] 31.77
Here it is combined
1 PIPELINE SC PRE ACADEMY [5] 35.28
2 ACHILLES FC [54] 33.96
3 CALVERTON SC CERRITOS [60] 33.88
4 SA OF COLUMBIA PRE ACADEMY SPURS [67] 33.82
1 SPRINGFIELD SOUTH COUNTY YOUTH CLUB LIONS BLUE [160] 32.96
5 POTOMAC SA BLUE [162] 32.95
2 ALEXANDRIA SA RED [193] 32.80
3 SOCA CVILLE ELITE [223] 32.64
6 MATRIX SA MAESTROS [251] 32.51
4 STERLING SC YSA ORANGE [306] 32.30
7 BRAUSA UNITED FC [323] 32.22
5 ARLINGTON SA RED [362] 32.11
8 BALTIMORE UNION SC ELITE [365] 32.09
9 OBGC RANGERS BLUE [374] 32.05
6 GREAT FALLS RESTON SC ELITE NPL [377] 32.05
7 ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB VILLARREAL VIRGINIA ACADEMY [389] 32.01
10 PLAYER PROGRESSION ACADEMY GREEN [396] 31.97
8 VIRGINIA SA NPL ELITE [413] 31.93
9 SOUTHWESTERN YOUTH ASSOCIATION YA CARDINALS RED [467] 31.78
10 BURKE ATHLETIC CLUB UNITED [472] 31.77
Anonymous
10/15/2019 09:01
Subject: '07 DMV Boys Discussion
Where do you see the list of teams doing Nation's Cup? Can you please post the link?
Anonymous
10/15/2019 08:56
Subject: Re:'07 DMV Boys Discussion
Anonymous wrote:So Columbus Day tournaments tell the story about MD vs VA teams. EDP cup has:
Achilles and Pipeline in the top division.
Calverton Cerritos in the 2nd
Potomac in the 3rd
Brausa in 4th
Freedom in 5th
First VA teams Burke and SYA show up in 6th
Burke, SAC White, and SYA in the 6th
Bethesda Blue in 7th
Calvert in 8th
Go Premier and Arlington in 9th
Frederick and SAC in 11th
Not a good showing for VA teams.
SAC Columbus Day Tournament only has one VA team applied and that SYC Orange (B Team).
I suppose most of the VA teams entered the Bethesda Tournament. I see that LMVSC Red, Loudoun Red, and McLean ECNL are doing Nation's Cup and not Bethesda.
Mixed results for DMV, but some showed well.
Anonymous
10/04/2019 13:57
Subject: '07 DMV Boys Discussion
Anonymous wrote:I need to quit my job and create a tournament.....that's almost $50k right there.
Believe me, if you think in these terms all the time, you probably should quit your job .
Anonymous
10/04/2019 08:05
Subject: '07 DMV Boys Discussion
I need to quit my job and create a tournament.....that's almost $50k right there.
Anonymous
10/03/2019 16:29
Subject: Re:'07 DMV Boys Discussion
Accepted Teams for Bethesda
1776 Centurion
Baltimore Union Elite
Baltimore Union Select
Bethesda Blue
Bethesda Green
Brausa United
Braddock Road Elite Academy ECNL
Burke Athletic United
Calvert Riptide Black
Calverton Cerritos
Century United Gold
Coppermine Premier
Chantilly Purple
Empire United Rochester Blue
Everest Premier Black
FC Ballyhoo Black
FC Europa Elite
FC Frederick
FC Virginia Academy United
Fishtown Rowdies
Great Falls Elite NPL
GPS New York EDP
Keystone Premier
Laurel United
Michigan Tigers
Pipeline Pre-Academy
Player Progression Academy
Potomac Blue
Prince William Courage NPL
Reading Rage Pogba
SAC Premier White
SAC/BA Pre-Academy Spurs
SC Vistula Garfield
SCS United Black
Sigma FC
South Jersey Elite Barons Academy EDP
Sterling Orange
SYA Cardinals Red
Springfield Lions Blue
Takoma Park Revolution Blue
Vienna Eagles
Yardley Makefield
1776 Centurion
Baltimore Union Elite
Baltimore Union Select
Bethesda Blue
Bethesda Green
Brausa United
Braddock Road Elite Academy ECNL
Burke Athletic United
Calvert Riptide Black
Calverton Cerritos
Century United Gold
Coppermine Premier
Chantilly Purple
Empire United Rochester Blue
Everest Premier Black
FC Ballyhoo Black
FC Europa Elite
FC Frederick
FC Virginia Academy United
Fishtown Rowdies
Great Falls Elite NPL
GPS New York EDP
Keystone Premier
Laurel United
Michigan Tigers
Pipeline Pre-Academy
Player Progression Academy
Potomac Blue
Prince William Courage NPL
Reading Rage Pogba
SAC Premier White
SAC/BA Pre-Academy Spurs
SC Vistula Garfield
SCS United Black
Sigma FC
South Jersey Elite Barons Academy EDP
Sterling Orange
SYA Cardinals Red
Springfield Lions Blue
Takoma Park Revolution Blue
Vienna Eagles
Yardley Makefield
Anonymous
10/02/2019 13:56
Subject: Re:'07 DMV Boys Discussion
I'm not talking about GotSoccer, which is based on points. It's Youth Soccer rankings where you can filter by boys, girls or boys and girls. The rankings are based on a Youth Soccer Rankings "score".Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was looking at the Youth Soccer Rankings for VA because of some of the tournaments coming up and it shows that Loudoun Girls 07s are ranked 5th in the state. Not just out of the girls but out of boys AND girls. They are just ahead of Herndon Boys Black and are closing in on 4th place! : ) I used to think that these rankings were pretty accurate but this...does not add up. : )
Congrats, you daughter is awesome. Move on.
Man are you cynical. I don't have a daughter. Nor do I know anyone who plays for Loudoun. My son plays on one the teams trying to overtake the Loudoun girls on the Youth Soccer Rankings. : ) I was just pointing out that there must be a one hell of a flaw in Youth Soccer Ranking's algorithm. I wasn't trying to cheerlead for the Loudoun girls.
You read it wrong, it shows that way but it is not what you thought. There no ranking for a team " out of boys AND girls" (your words), especially at U13. Points are just points, do not mix boys and girls for sports.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 13:43
Subject: '07 DMV Boys Discussion
So this is a thread about BOYS soccer. If you have girls, awesome, but how about a parallel, separate thread for them?
Anonymous
10/02/2019 13:15
Subject: Re:'07 DMV Boys Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was looking at the Youth Soccer Rankings for VA because of some of the tournaments coming up and it shows that Loudoun Girls 07s are ranked 5th in the state. Not just out of the girls but out of boys AND girls. They are just ahead of Herndon Boys Black and are closing in on 4th place! : ) I used to think that these rankings were pretty accurate but this...does not add up. : )
Congrats, you daughter is awesome. Move on.
Man are you cynical. I don't have a daughter. Nor do I know anyone who plays for Loudoun. My son plays on one the teams trying to overtake the Loudoun girls on the Youth Soccer Rankings. : ) I was just pointing out that there must be a one hell of a flaw in Youth Soccer Ranking's algorithm. I wasn't trying to cheerlead for the Loudoun girls.
You read it wrong, it shows that way but it is not what you thought. There no ranking for a team " out of boys AND girls" (your words), especially at U13. Points are just points, do not mix boys and girls for sports.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 13:08
Subject: Re:'07 DMV Boys Discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was looking at the Youth Soccer Rankings for VA because of some of the tournaments coming up and it shows that Loudoun Girls 07s are ranked 5th in the state. Not just out of the girls but out of boys AND girls. They are just ahead of Herndon Boys Black and are closing in on 4th place! : ) I used to think that these rankings were pretty accurate but this...does not add up. : )
Congrats, you daughter is awesome. Move on.
Man are you cynical. I don't have a daughter. Nor do I know anyone who plays for Loudoun. My son plays on one the teams trying to overtake the Loudoun girls on the Youth Soccer Rankings. : ) I was just pointing out that there must be a one hell of a flaw in Youth Soccer Ranking's algorithm. I wasn't trying to cheerlead for the Loudoun girls.
Anonymous
10/01/2019 14:49
Subject: Re:'07 DMV Boys Discussion
Anonymous wrote:I was looking at the Youth Soccer Rankings for VA because of some of the tournaments coming up and it shows that Loudoun Girls 07s are ranked 5th in the state. Not just out of the girls but out of boys AND girls. They are just ahead of Herndon Boys Black and are closing in on 4th place! : ) I used to think that these rankings were pretty accurate but this...does not add up. : )
Congrats, you daughter is awesome. Move on.