Anonymous wrote:To the poster here who keeps writing *books'*on this forum: just stop. Every single time OTES is mentioned in any thread you write the same kinds of things. You ask and answer your own questions as if you were multiple posters. You sound like a pain the *ss and no wonder no teacher wants you in their classroom. I certainly wouldn't. I can do my job just fine without you, thank you very much.

How many people on this board want volunteers at their desk/office/medical practice/wherever?? Especially ones who will not shut up?

If you’re talking about me (self proclaimed book writer) I haven’t responded in two days and identified myself the only two times I responded on this thread. I’ve never responded to another OTES thread - my child just finished kindergarten. This has been a very helpful thread for the most part actually. Except for you. You’re just unnecessarily rude.

To the poster here who keeps writing *books'*on this forum: just stop. Every single time OTES is mentioned in any thread you write the same kinds of things. You ask and answer your own questions as if you were multiple posters. You sound like a pain the *ss and no wonder no teacher wants you in their classroom. I certainly wouldn't. I can do my job just fine without you, thank you very much.

How many people on this board want volunteers at their desk/office/medical practice/wherever?? Especially ones who will not shut up?

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Anonymous wrote:Forget about that stupid lottery process. Buy a house in-bounds and your kids are on their way to bilingualism. Good show, MoCo.

Glad we bought here last year. Oldest starts in a few weeks!

Yeah I wish we had bought in-bounds for OTES! We had zeroed in on there and Flora Singer when buying a house and ended up in a neighborhood that goes to the latter. This was a few years ago and the bilingual program hadn't been proposed yet. I'm kinda bummed now even though I've heard good things about Flora Singer.

Singer is the better school overall. Much better principal.

The leadership makes or breaks the school.

Which is why many of us are so happy at OTES.

I’m not sure if it’s the same person, but there’s someone on this board who has posted multiple times about Singer being “better.” It’s bizarre, given how similar the two schools are.

That's great you are happy there. That doesn't dismiss some of the concerns, many of which like communication could easily be fixed. I don't know if Flora Singer is better or not. It probably depends on the child and their needs.

I wasn't dismissing anyone's concerns, I was responding to a specific PP comparing OTES and Singer. It's happened before on this forum and it is, again, bizarre. I remember it coming up around the boundary revisions, and this person (whether the same or not) grouped OTES as one of the "lower performing" schools in the Einstein cluster, while Singer was "higher performing." Except that they're very, very similar. Again: weird.

They are probably the same posters saying the only good schools are W school and complaining about the lack of magnets and then sending their kids downcountry to the magnets. I think they are about equal in performance and draw the type of families. The differences are due to the people there. I have heard they are better if your child needs any supports but I think that's subjective to the individual child.

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Anonymous wrote:Forget about that stupid lottery process. Buy a house in-bounds and your kids are on their way to bilingualism. Good show, MoCo.

Glad we bought here last year. Oldest starts in a few weeks!

Yeah I wish we had bought in-bounds for OTES! We had zeroed in on there and Flora Singer when buying a house and ended up in a neighborhood that goes to the latter. This was a few years ago and the bilingual program hadn't been proposed yet. I'm kinda bummed now even though I've heard good things about Flora Singer.

Singer is the better school overall. Much better principal.

The leadership makes or breaks the school.

Which is why many of us are so happy at OTES.

I’m not sure if it’s the same person, but there’s someone on this board who has posted multiple times about Singer being “better.” It’s bizarre, given how similar the two schools are.

That's great you are happy there. That doesn't dismiss some of the concerns, many of which like communication could easily be fixed. I don't know if Flora Singer is better or not. It probably depends on the child and their needs.

I wasn't dismissing anyone's concerns, I was responding to a specific PP comparing OTES and Singer. It's happened before on this forum and it is, again, bizarre. I remember it coming up around the boundary revisions, and this person (whether the same or not) grouped OTES as one of the "lower performing" schools in the Einstein cluster, while Singer was "higher performing." Except that they're very, very similar. Again: weird.

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Anonymous wrote:Forget about that stupid lottery process. Buy a house in-bounds and your kids are on their way to bilingualism. Good show, MoCo.

Glad we bought here last year. Oldest starts in a few weeks!

Yeah I wish we had bought in-bounds for OTES! We had zeroed in on there and Flora Singer when buying a house and ended up in a neighborhood that goes to the latter. This was a few years ago and the bilingual program hadn't been proposed yet. I'm kinda bummed now even though I've heard good things about Flora Singer.

Singer is the better school overall. Much better principal.

The leadership makes or breaks the school.

Which is why many of us are so happy at OTES.

I’m not sure if it’s the same person, but there’s someone on this board who has posted multiple times about Singer being “better.” It’s bizarre, given how similar the two schools are.

That's great you are happy there. That doesn't dismiss some of the concerns, many of which like communication could easily be fixed. I don't know if Flora Singer is better or not. It probably depends on the child and their needs.

Anonymous wrote:I had never heard of that school and am surprised there are highly regarded so close to Wheaton. A good alternative for low income families

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Anonymous wrote:Forget about that stupid lottery process. Buy a house in-bounds and your kids are on their way to bilingualism. Good show, MoCo.

Glad we bought here last year. Oldest starts in a few weeks!

Yeah I wish we had bought in-bounds for OTES! We had zeroed in on there and Flora Singer when buying a house and ended up in a neighborhood that goes to the latter. This was a few years ago and the bilingual program hadn't been proposed yet. I'm kinda bummed now even though I've heard good things about Flora Singer.

Singer is the better school overall. Much better principal.

The leadership makes or breaks the school.

Which is why many of us are so happy at OTES.

I’m not sure if it’s the same person, but there’s someone on this board who has posted multiple times about Singer being “better.” It’s bizarre, given how similar the two schools are.

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Anonymous wrote:Forget about that stupid lottery process. Buy a house in-bounds and your kids are on their way to bilingualism. Good show, MoCo.

Glad we bought here last year. Oldest starts in a few weeks!

Yeah I wish we had bought in-bounds for OTES! We had zeroed in on there and Flora Singer when buying a house and ended up in a neighborhood that goes to the latter. This was a few years ago and the bilingual program hadn't been proposed yet. I'm kinda bummed now even though I've heard good things about Flora Singer.

Singer is the better school overall. Much better principal.

The leadership makes or breaks the school.

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Anonymous wrote:I also don’t like how they take away lunch and recess as a consequence.

What does that mean?

It means kids eat in the office and spend lunch and recess in the office as a punishment.

That is an excellent punishment since teachers are so limited now in what they can do.

I'm surprised posters are so invested in whether or not they have the opportunity to volunteer and place emphasis on that as a measuring stick for the school. I assume this is SAHMs (not a criticism) because as a working parent, I'm thrilled not to have to add volunteering to my plate.

If my child did something that bad, which they didn't, just send them home. They refuse to do other things during recess hours, like support services saying they cannot withhold recess but then they do it for minor offenses and basically do an in-school suspension without telling parents holding kids in the office all day.

Anonymous wrote:I had never heard of that school and am surprised there are highly regarded so close to Wheaton. A good alternative for low income families

Your post is really offensive and not a low income school.

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Anonymous wrote:I also don’t like how they take away lunch and recess as a consequence.

What does that mean?

It means kids eat in the office and spend lunch and recess in the office as a punishment.

That is an excellent punishment since teachers are so limited now in what they can do.

I'm surprised posters are so invested in whether or not they have the opportunity to volunteer and place emphasis on that as a measuring stick for the school. I assume this is SAHMs (not a criticism) because as a working parent, I'm thrilled not to have to add volunteering to my plate.

Volunteering is an extra to me, but I do consider minimal parent/teacher communication, especially when there is an issue, one metric by which to measure the school. I know most working parents have enough on their plates, but I can't help feeling something is missing when my friend in another part of the county says jokingly to me "If I have to go to one more kindergarten event or help with one more classroom project! etc...." and I'm literally like, we have had zero. Nothing the entire year. Other schools ARE doing it very differently, but I understand that it's a matter of preference and time. I work part time so I do have a bit of time I could dedicate to the school, and wish there was more of a community feel. But I do understand that these aren't the sole things to measure a school by.

You get the projects in later grades. Some are terrible as they only give you a few days and you have to run out and get supplies if you don't have them. My child was out sick a few days and the teacher emailed saying it was due the next day. I had to run out and buy the book and supplies and do it within a few hours as they were not flexible on the due date.

Volunteers are helpful to help engage the kids and keep them on topic. They do centers and the kids are not allowed to ask questions and get no support if the teacher is teaching one group and they are in a different group. May not be an issue if your kid doesn't need extra support but some of ours do. Also, when the kids are done with work that they rush through they are on the chrome books playing educational games as they are bored.

A lot of parents have flexible jobs and can work at home. My spouse can work at home and take an hour during the day without an issue. Its not a SAHM thing.

The communication or lack there of is a huge issue. At least in terms of extra projects, upcoming field trips (so you don't schedule appointments and other things), when testing is happening and how your kid is doing (especially if they are in any way struggling).

It would also help in the older grades to have a math textbook. But, that's an MCPS issue, not school issue. But, school could send home examples with the homework for new materials or post online.

I had never heard of that school and am surprised there are highly regarded so close to Wheaton. A good alternative for low income families

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Anonymous wrote:I also don’t like how they take away lunch and recess as a consequence.

What does that mean?

It means kids eat in the office and spend lunch and recess in the office as a punishment.

That is an excellent punishment since teachers are so limited now in what they can do.

I'm surprised posters are so invested in whether or not they have the opportunity to volunteer and place emphasis on that as a measuring stick for the school. I assume this is SAHMs (not a criticism) because as a working parent, I'm thrilled not to have to add volunteering to my plate.

Volunteering is an extra to me, but I do consider minimal parent/teacher communication, especially when there is an issue, one metric by which to measure the school. I know most working parents have enough on their plates, but I can't help feeling something is missing when my friend in another part of the county says jokingly to me "If I have to go to one more kindergarten event or help with one more classroom project! etc...." and I'm literally like, we have had zero. Nothing the entire year. Other schools ARE doing it very differently, but I understand that it's a matter of preference and time. I work part time so I do have a bit of time I could dedicate to the school, and wish there was more of a community feel. But I do understand that these aren't the sole things to measure a school by.

Makes complete sense. Thanks for such a reasoned response

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Anonymous wrote:I also don’t like how they take away lunch and recess as a consequence.

What does that mean?

It means kids eat in the office and spend lunch and recess in the office as a punishment.

That is an excellent punishment since teachers are so limited now in what they can do.

I'm surprised posters are so invested in whether or not they have the opportunity to volunteer and place emphasis on that as a measuring stick for the school. I assume this is SAHMs (not a criticism) because as a working parent, I'm thrilled not to have to add volunteering to my plate.

Volunteering is an extra to me, but I do consider minimal parent/teacher communication, especially when there is an issue, one metric by which to measure the school. I know most working parents have enough on their plates, but I can't help feeling something is missing when my friend in another part of the county says jokingly to me "If I have to go to one more kindergarten event or help with one more classroom project! etc...." and I'm literally like, we have had zero. Nothing the entire year. Other schools ARE doing it very differently, but I understand that it's a matter of preference and time. I work part time so I do have a bit of time I could dedicate to the school, and wish there was more of a community feel. But I do understand that these aren't the sole things to measure a school by.

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Anonymous wrote:I also don’t like how they take away lunch and recess as a consequence.

What does that mean?

It means kids eat in the office and spend lunch and recess in the office as a punishment.

That is an excellent punishment since teachers are so limited now in what they can do.

I'm surprised posters are so invested in whether or not they have the opportunity to volunteer and place emphasis on that as a measuring stick for the school. I assume this is SAHMs (not a criticism) because as a working parent, I'm thrilled not to have to add volunteering to my plate.