Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 20:49     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

1. You assume I'm white. You assumed wrong.

2. You're willing to tolerate behaviors in the black community you'd never tolerate in the white community.

3. So you equate "white supremacy" with law and order and you normalize assault and "beat downs" as just another day at the office with blacks?

4. That's twisted.

Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 18:06     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:"If you ever take the time to objectively observe you will notice that non-white people have no problem moving away to the other end of the platform or getting up and going to the other end of the car or changing cars entirely when there's a disturbance."

Oh, so they ignore the problem? Thank you. Good to know.

So sorry for those that get caught in the crossfire.


Take note:
People with innate instincts of self-preservation end up going home.
People with innate instincts of self-aggrandizement end up going to the hospital.
You can argue til you’re blue in the face about what attitude you consider more ethical but there’s no debating which approach is less perilous and at the end of the day that’s what is at the heart of this 9-page thread...personal safety.
So hey you whatever you want. If you wanna take a stand in inauspicious circumstances and criticize others for avoiding altercations while you confidently count on your white privilege to persistently protect you from peril - good luck. I’m no statistician but I’m guessing 99 out of 100 people would gladly take the irrelevance of your disapproval over the injuries that accompany a beat down.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 17:23     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you pulled out a can of pepper spray or mace and tried to use it on these kids, I’m betting it would wind up getting stuffed up your butt. After you got the beatdown of your life.

Escalating the level of violence against children who are essentially just playing around is only going to get you hurt or killed. They are being violent, so why introduce violence into the equation?


They are not playing, they are assaulting people.


Ummmm, no.

What YOU consider “assault” , and what they would likely consider assault are probably two very different things. I’d imagine your threshold is probably a lot lower than theirs. You probably think common trash-talking or making outlandish, boastful threats is an assault. Their reality is that a REAL assault is something that puts you in a hospital. And less than that is just goofing around. And kids goof around. If those kids really wanted to hurt you, do you really think they wouldn’t be capable of doing more to harm you than making boasts and maybe invading your personal space? If they wanted to hurt you, they’d HURT you. But they don’t. Because they’re just playing.

Toughen up and grow some thicker skin, snowflakes.


Yes, this is definitely a cultural issue and you need to be more sensitive. What you might consider assault is just horseplay in the black community.

STFU, Brianne Nadeau.


This. Stop trying to change other cultures to fit your worldview. If you have a problem with this stuff, it’s YOUR problem. You’re the one who moved to Chocolate City.

You probably want go go banned, too.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 17:08     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

"If you ever take the time to objectively observe you will notice that non-white people have no problem moving away to the other end of the platform or getting up and going to the other end of the car or changing cars entirely when there's a disturbance."

Oh, so they ignore the problem? Thank you. Good to know.

So sorry for those that get caught in the crossfire.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2019 17:46     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you pulled out a can of pepper spray or mace and tried to use it on these kids, I’m betting it would wind up getting stuffed up your butt. After you got the beatdown of your life.

Escalating the level of violence against children who are essentially just playing around is only going to get you hurt or killed. They are being violent, so why introduce violence into the equation?


They are not playing, they are assaulting people.


Ummmm, no.

What YOU consider “assault” , and what they would likely consider assault are probably two very different things. I’d imagine your threshold is probably a lot lower than theirs. You probably think common trash-talking or making outlandish, boastful threats is an assault. Their reality is that a REAL assault is something that puts you in a hospital. And less than that is just goofing around. And kids goof around. If those kids really wanted to hurt you, do you really think they wouldn’t be capable of doing more to harm you than making boasts and maybe invading your personal space? If they wanted to hurt you, they’d HURT you. But they don’t. Because they’re just playing.

Toughen up and grow some thicker skin, snowflakes.


Yes, this is definitely a cultural issue and you need to be more sensitive. What you might consider assault is just horseplay in the black community.


Are you trolling? Slapping a random person in the back of the head and stepping on heels is the quickest way to get your a$$ beat or shot if you do it to the wrong person in the dang near Black community I grew up in.


Same poster. This should say dang near ALL Black community I grew up in.

Still--WTF?! Keep your dang hands to yourself!!
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2019 17:44     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you pulled out a can of pepper spray or mace and tried to use it on these kids, I’m betting it would wind up getting stuffed up your butt. After you got the beatdown of your life.

Escalating the level of violence against children who are essentially just playing around is only going to get you hurt or killed. They are being violent, so why introduce violence into the equation?


They are not playing, they are assaulting people.


Ummmm, no.

What YOU consider “assault” , and what they would likely consider assault are probably two very different things. I’d imagine your threshold is probably a lot lower than theirs. You probably think common trash-talking or making outlandish, boastful threats is an assault. Their reality is that a REAL assault is something that puts you in a hospital. And less than that is just goofing around. And kids goof around. If those kids really wanted to hurt you, do you really think they wouldn’t be capable of doing more to harm you than making boasts and maybe invading your personal space? If they wanted to hurt you, they’d HURT you. But they don’t. Because they’re just playing.

Toughen up and grow some thicker skin, snowflakes.


Yes, this is definitely a cultural issue and you need to be more sensitive. What you might consider assault is just horseplay in the black community.


Are you trolling? Slapping a random person in the back of the head and stepping on heels is the quickest way to get your a$$ beat or shot if you do it to the wrong person in the dang near Black community I grew up in.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2019 15:25     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you pulled out a can of pepper spray or mace and tried to use it on these kids, I’m betting it would wind up getting stuffed up your butt. After you got the beatdown of your life.

Escalating the level of violence against children who are essentially just playing around is only going to get you hurt or killed. They are being violent, so why introduce violence into the equation?


They are not playing, they are assaulting people.


Ummmm, no.

What YOU consider “assault” , and what they would likely consider assault are probably two very different things. I’d imagine your threshold is probably a lot lower than theirs. You probably think common trash-talking or making outlandish, boastful threats is an assault. Their reality is that a REAL assault is something that puts you in a hospital. And less than that is just goofing around. And kids goof around. If those kids really wanted to hurt you, do you really think they wouldn’t be capable of doing more to harm you than making boasts and maybe invading your personal space? If they wanted to hurt you, they’d HURT you. But they don’t. Because they’re just playing.

Toughen up and grow some thicker skin, snowflakes.


Legally speaking, an assault is the threat of violence, and a battery is the use of violence. You can be charged for either or both.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2019 15:20     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ great idea. Ya know, since it’s really ALL white people you are talking- why don’t we just make separate cars for black people. That seems reasonable.


Funny but no. Jim Crow is dead (good riddance) and nobody is raising forced segregation from the dead. Not happening. However, self-segregation is still very much alive and very much an individual's right. So if you don't like non-whites and you don't feel comfortable when several of them or even one of them comes and stands near you while waiting for a train then you certainly have the right to move away to the other end of the platform. And if you don't like none-whites and you don't feel comfortable when several of them or even one of them comes and sits near you while you're on the train then you certainly have the right to get up and move away to the other end of the car or if it will make you feel better you can change cars entirely. That is not only reasonable but constitutional.


Great idea. Maybe all the people who are concerned about non whites should just move to areas without them at all. Oh wait, no need. That’s what great schools ratings are for!


I'm glad you got a sense of humor about it, but this is a genuine concern for folks as evidenced by the recurring admissions of angst and uneasiness from posters in numerous threads of varying topics that involve non-whites. Evidently there are a lot of white people in the DC Metro area who may not have a social anxiety disorder per se, but they definitely have anxieties about being around non-white people and they don't know how to deal with those anxieties when encountering black or brown people in public because they are even more afraid of the impression their avoidance gives. I think it's important to let them know it's perfectly okay to keep your distance, to move away, to avoid situations and circumstances that make them feel uncomfortable. I think they need to ask themselves which is worse, walking away and being perceived as racist or staying put and practically peeing their pants for fear that the dark thugs will get them?


Well it depends, of course. Being credibly accused of racism is a career-ender for many, and of course there are social consequences too. So you need to balance the risks. It would of course be better to have a system where people could not commit acts of violence with impunity, but I guess that is too much to ask.


What's the career-ending risk of getting up and moving to another end of the platform to get away from loud teenagers? What's the career-ending risk of getting up and moving to another end of the car to get away from an unscrupulous looking individual? What are they going to demand your name and the number of your company to report you to the HR department? I can see how getting into a verbal altercation with boisterous and obnoxious adolescents and calling them the "n-word" while someone on the train is recording it could possibly come back to haunt you but how is quietly removing yourself from the proximity of a disturbance going to have career-ending implications?

As for people committing acts of violence with impunity have you ever bothered to look at the Blotter List for the Metro Transit Police?

https://www.wmata.com/about/transit-police/upload/Blotter-July-8-2019.pdf

That's three pages of arrests, reports and citations for yesterday alone! Evidently violators and offenders aren't running rampant with no repercussions as the commonly held belief suggests.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2019 15:09     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:What did the woman do to the teen to prompt being hit and chased? Yeah, teens and kids are loud in the metro but they generally leave you alone. I can’t understand why a teen would jump someone unprovoked.


My ex-wife was hit in the back on a metro in DC simply because she was wearing her engagement ring. No provocation, the person said something about white people jewelry. Yes it does happen unprovoked.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2019 15:06     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ great idea. Ya know, since it’s really ALL white people you are talking- why don’t we just make separate cars for black people. That seems reasonable.


Funny but no. Jim Crow is dead (good riddance) and nobody is raising forced segregation from the dead. Not happening. However, self-segregation is still very much alive and very much an individual's right. So if you don't like non-whites and you don't feel comfortable when several of them or even one of them comes and stands near you while waiting for a train then you certainly have the right to move away to the other end of the platform. And if you don't like none-whites and you don't feel comfortable when several of them or even one of them comes and sits near you while you're on the train then you certainly have the right to get up and move away to the other end of the car or if it will make you feel better you can change cars entirely. That is not only reasonable but constitutional.


Great idea. Maybe all the people who are concerned about non whites should just move to areas without them at all. Oh wait, no need. That’s what great schools ratings are for!


I'm glad you got a sense of humor about it, but this is a genuine concern for folks as evidenced by the recurring admissions of angst and uneasiness from posters in numerous threads of varying topics that involve non-whites. Evidently there are a lot of white people in the DC Metro area who may not have a social anxiety disorder per se, but they definitely have anxieties about being around non-white people and they don't know how to deal with those anxieties when encountering black or brown people in public because they are even more afraid of the impression their avoidance gives. I think it's important to let them know it's perfectly okay to keep your distance, to move away, to avoid situations and circumstances that make them feel uncomfortable. I think they need to ask themselves which is worse, walking away and being perceived as racist or staying put and practically peeing their pants for fear that the dark thugs will get them?


Well it depends, of course. Being credibly accused of racism is a career-ender for many, and of course there are social consequences too. So you need to balance the risks. It would of course be better to have a system where people could not commit acts of violence with impunity, but I guess that is too much to ask.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2019 15:03     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you pulled out a can of pepper spray or mace and tried to use it on these kids, I’m betting it would wind up getting stuffed up your butt. After you got the beatdown of your life.

Escalating the level of violence against children who are essentially just playing around is only going to get you hurt or killed. They are being violent, so why introduce violence into the equation?


So what, in your view, is the appropriate response? You are sitting there minding your own business and get slapped in the head from behind. The group confronting you threatens more and worse. What do you say the recipient of this treatment should do?


Get up and get off the train at the next stop, duh!!!! If you try to fight back in any way, they’ll see that as a sign of weakness and really start in on you. You might get really hurt, instead of just having your neck stinging from being slapped. Or offer them money to leave you alone. Anything but taking the law into your own hands.


But someone upthread just said that the police and prosecutors aren’t going to do anything to enforce the laws against assault of this nature. If the authorities won’t act, and people can’t take the law into their own hands, what is left? Cede the public spaces to this sort of behavior?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2019 13:37     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide the statistics regarding murder and robbery rates in DC?


Oh I'm sure can easily pull up the statistics yourself and I'm sure also you know what they indicate which is why you brought it up. (Such a canny conversationalist)
In any case, the statistics will show that in the District non-whites are definitely at the top of the list of perpetrators for violent crimes, but it will also show something else - their victims are predominantly non-whites also.
So essentially, if anybody should be fearful of being murdered and/or robbed and/or assaulted by non-white people it is other non-white people. If anybody should be ultra-cautious of non-white people it's not white people, no it is other non-white people who statistically speaking should be far more afraid.
And yet somehow, someway, non-white people manage to stand on the platform next to other non-white people without struggling to suppress shrieks of horror because they're near me. And yet somehow, someway, non-white people somehow manage to ride the train with other non-white people without experiencing a shortness of breath or having heart palpitations because they're going to get me.
And one of the main reasons that non-white people are able to survive the stress of riding public transportation with other non-white people even though they are more likely to victims than white people is because as I suggested earlier - they keep their distance, they move away, and they avoid situations and circumstances that make them feel uncomfortable. If you ever take the time to objectively observe you will notice that non-white people have no problem moving away to the other end of the platform or getting up and going to the other end of the car or changing cars entirely when there's a disturbance.


Honestly this should be shouted from the mountain tops
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2019 11:35     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide the statistics regarding murder and robbery rates in DC?


Oh I'm sure can easily pull up the statistics yourself and I'm sure also you know what they indicate which is why you brought it up. (Such a canny conversationalist)
In any case, the statistics will show that in the District non-whites are definitely at the top of the list of perpetrators for violent crimes, but it will also show something else - their victims are predominantly non-whites also.
So essentially, if anybody should be fearful of being murdered and/or robbed and/or assaulted by non-white people it is other non-white people. If anybody should be ultra-cautious of non-white people it's not white people, no it is other non-white people who statistically speaking should be far more afraid.
And yet somehow, someway, non-white people manage to stand on the platform next to other non-white people without struggling to suppress shrieks of horror because they're near me. And yet somehow, someway, non-white people somehow manage to ride the train with other non-white people without experiencing a shortness of breath or having heart palpitations because they're going to get me.
And one of the main reasons that non-white people are able to survive the stress of riding public transportation with other non-white people even though they are more likely to victims than white people is because as I suggested earlier - they keep their distance, they move away, and they avoid situations and circumstances that make them feel uncomfortable. If you ever take the time to objectively observe you will notice that non-white people have no problem moving away to the other end of the platform or getting up and going to the other end of the car or changing cars entirely when there's a disturbance.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2019 11:10     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Can anyone provide the statistics regarding murder and robbery rates in DC?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2019 10:55     Subject: More attacks on passengers on metro in dc

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ great idea. Ya know, since it’s really ALL white people you are talking- why don’t we just make separate cars for black people. That seems reasonable.


Funny but no. Jim Crow is dead (good riddance) and nobody is raising forced segregation from the dead. Not happening. However, self-segregation is still very much alive and very much an individual's right. So if you don't like non-whites and you don't feel comfortable when several of them or even one of them comes and stands near you while waiting for a train then you certainly have the right to move away to the other end of the platform. And if you don't like none-whites and you don't feel comfortable when several of them or even one of them comes and sits near you while you're on the train then you certainly have the right to get up and move away to the other end of the car or if it will make you feel better you can change cars entirely. That is not only reasonable but constitutional.


Great idea. Maybe all the people who are concerned about non whites should just move to areas without them at all. Oh wait, no need. That’s what great schools ratings are for!


I'm glad you got a sense of humor about it, but this is a genuine concern for folks as evidenced by the recurring admissions of angst and uneasiness from posters in numerous threads of varying topics that involve non-whites. Evidently there are a lot of white people in the DC Metro area who may not have a social anxiety disorder per se, but they definitely have anxieties about being around non-white people and they don't know how to deal with those anxieties when encountering black or brown people in public because they are even more afraid of the impression their avoidance gives. I think it's important to let them know it's perfectly okay to keep your distance, to move away, to avoid situations and circumstances that make them feel uncomfortable. I think they need to ask themselves which is worse, walking away and being perceived as racist or staying put and practically peeing their pants for fear that the dark thugs will get them?