Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 15:27     Subject: Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:We can agree that being forced to go 25 miles under the speed limit when you actually have somewhere to be, is pretty darn annoying, whether they are in a car, tractor, or bike, and whether they are "allowed" to do it or not. It's annoying. It just is. You can be offended that people are annoyed at you, but they are. You are annoying. You have the right to be annoying, and you are exercising that right.

Chances are when you bikers are driving, you have some choice inner dialogues about the slow, lost, break tapping driver in front of you going 15 miles below the speed limit making you late for your big race. They are annoying. They are inconveniencing you, and you are allowed to be annoyed by their choice to drive very, very slow. It's annoying.


1. I don't race.

2. When I have to drive somewhere, I do my best to leave slack so that I don't have to be annoyed.

3. When I do see a driver going very slowly, if they are in an old broken down car, or are old (and likely have bad reflexes) I am less annoyed at them, then at a system that leaves them no choice but to use a car

4. That said, of course you are ALLOWED to be annoyed. Call me a libertarian, but I don't want the govt regulating our emotions. But when someone brings this annoyance into the public discourse, one can critique its reasonableness. That, too, is allowed.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 15:08     Subject: Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:We can agree that being forced to go 25 miles under the speed limit when you actually have somewhere to be, is pretty darn annoying, whether they are in a car, tractor, or bike, and whether they are "allowed" to do it or not. It's annoying. It just is. You can be offended that people are annoyed at you, but they are. You are annoying. You have the right to be annoying, and you are exercising that right.

Chances are when you bikers are driving, you have some choice inner dialogues about the slow, lost, break tapping driver in front of you going 15 miles below the speed limit making you late for your big race. They are annoying. They are inconveniencing you, and you are allowed to be annoyed by their choice to drive very, very slow. It's annoying.


Your feelings are completely valid. I am also annoyed that you have a dangerous overpowered box of metal spewing pollution in our public space whether you are “allowed” to do it or not. It is annoying and hazardous. It just is. You can be offended that I am annoyed at you, but I am. You are annoying. And a hazard.

Wow, that does feel good to get off the chest! Great idea!
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 15:02     Subject: Bikes that think they're cars
We can agree that being forced to go 25 miles under the speed limit when you actually have somewhere to be, is pretty darn annoying, whether they are in a car, tractor, or bike, and whether they are "allowed" to do it or not. It's annoying. It just is. You can be offended that people are annoyed at you, but they are. You are annoying. You have the right to be annoying, and you are exercising that right.

Chances are when you bikers are driving, you have some choice inner dialogues about the slow, lost, break tapping driver in front of you going 15 miles below the speed limit making you late for your big race. They are annoying. They are inconveniencing you, and you are allowed to be annoyed by their choice to drive very, very slow. It's annoying.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 14:50     Subject: Re:Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You seem to be reaching out for human interaction. Consider joining a group bike ride. People can be quite friendly. The combination of exercise and social interaction would do you well.
I get plenty of interaction with others with other types of physical activity/ exercise with out the gnawing fear in the back my head that i'm gonna get run over/off the road.


Statistically speaking, you’re all bark and no bite with your threats of violence against bicyclists. I’ll continue to enjoy my time on the bike. And I’ll advocate for more bike infrastructure so that people of all ages and abilities can do the same. I’ll consider it a success when people like you are also willing to get on a bike.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 14:46     Subject: Re:Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They shouldn't be on the road if they can't go the minimum speed. Annoying.


That's not what the law says.


I believe PP is suggesting that the law should say this. Note the difference between "shouldn't" and "may not."
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 14:43     Subject: Re:Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You seem to be reaching out for human interaction. Consider joining a group bike ride. People can be quite friendly. The combination of exercise and social interaction would do you well.
I get plenty of interaction with others with other types of physical activity/ exercise with out the gnawing fear in the back my head that i'm gonna get run over/off the road.


Since you can get run off the road in a car, you probably should retain that gnawing fear.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 14:43     Subject: Re:Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Because you're trying to get somewhere? Same reason you're driving on it.


OK you are going from point A to Point P, yes you are getting exercise, and yes you maybe saving the planet by reducing your CO emissions, ect, ect. but my god, is you life really worth the risk of riding a bicycle on such a dangerous stretch of road...


If you care so much for the lives of people on bikes, go lobby for bike lanes, trails, lower speed limits, traffic calming.

This is just concern trolling, and trying to frighten people to get out of your way.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 14:09     Subject: Re:Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:

You seem to be reaching out for human interaction. Consider joining a group bike ride. People can be quite friendly. The combination of exercise and social interaction would do you well.
I get plenty of interaction with others with other types of physical activity/ exercise with out the gnawing fear in the back my head that i'm gonna get run over/off the road.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 14:05     Subject: Re:Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:
Because you're trying to get somewhere? Same reason you're driving on it.


OK you are going from point A to Point P, yes you are getting exercise, and yes you maybe saving the planet by reducing your CO emissions, ect, ect. but my god, is you life really worth the risk of riding a bicycle on such a dangerous stretch of road...

I gave up on my motorcycle since they are barely a step above bicycles for the main reason that car/truck drivers just don't care or respect them. Yes there are some motorcycles that are ass hats. I wasn't one of them, but too many close calls with self absorbed drivers.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 10:18     Subject: Re:Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So you cut through neighborhoods on your way to work and want others to just get out of your way while you do it. You are part of the problem just like everyone else.


so canal road and 123 are neighborhood cut through streets now? I'll grant your the g-town pike and and old dominion are. but I live on OD, so I have to get out of my neighborhood somehow.

but my point being that at least on 123, there is shoulder for some of the stretch, but traffic issue be damned, as a cyclsit, why would you want to risk your life on a road like old dominion or Gtown pike..


Because you're trying to get somewhere? Same reason you're driving on it.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 09:24     Subject: Re:Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Wow, jokes about running over cyclists. You really are sooo funny! Can you do jokes about killing other vulnerable people too?


well there are these retched kids down near the Mexican border.... that need to stay in mexico...


You seem to be reaching out for human interaction. Consider joining a group bike ride. People can be quite friendly. The combination of exercise and social interaction would do you well.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 09:05     Subject: Re:Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:

So you cut through neighborhoods on your way to work and want others to just get out of your way while you do it. You are part of the problem just like everyone else.


so canal road and 123 are neighborhood cut through streets now? I'll grant your the g-town pike and and old dominion are. but I live on OD, so I have to get out of my neighborhood somehow.

but my point being that at least on 123, there is shoulder for some of the stretch, but traffic issue be damned, as a cyclsit, why would you want to risk your life on a road like old dominion or Gtown pike..
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 08:46     Subject: Re:Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:
Wow, jokes about running over cyclists. You really are sooo funny! Can you do jokes about killing other vulnerable people too?


well there are these retched kids down near the Mexican border.... that need to stay in mexico...
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 19:37     Subject: Re:Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Perhaps, but I have long said that cyclists should designate one week and scrupulously follow all traffic laws. Take the lane, complete stop at all stop signs, etc. Just go on your regular route. The effect would be the same. And drivers would go up in flames.



you'd have dead cyclist, as a cyclist can't always maintain a safe speed on the road, they wuld be unable to follow the traffic laws and as such would be ticketed.... and as mentioned above, some road just don't have the space to allow bikes and cars to coexist safely, and never will. Chain bridge, canal road, Old Dominion, G-town pike just to name a few.

as a cyclist, while mayibf is "your right" to use the road, but you wouldn't go out on 495 or 66 or the GWP, why put yourself in these dangerous situations on two lane roads. getting hit by a truck mirror at 35mph won't be pretty.


Have you seen the "bikes may use full lane" signs? That is what the law says. When I am riding in the middle of the lane, using the full lane, I am following the traffic laws. Whereas when you go around me in your car on the right, you are NOT following the traffic laws. Nor are you following the traffic laws when you go around me in your car on the left over a double yellow line.

495 and 66 are not at issue here, because it is illegal to ride a bicycle on interstate highways.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2019 15:12     Subject: Re:Bikes that think they're cars
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

you'd have dead cyclist, as a cyclist can't always maintain a safe speed on the road, they wuld be unable to follow the traffic laws and as such would be ticketed.... and as mentioned above, some road just don't have the space to allow bikes and cars to coexist safely, and never will. Chain bridge, canal road, Old Dominion, G-town pike just to name a few.



Should have known it was someone from McLean.


Sorry wrong assumption. I don't live in mclean or great falls, just pass through on my way to work.


Then Fairfax County probably will not listen to you. Maybe you should get a job in Maryland instead.


MD is just as fvcked up as DC

FC will listen to me as I live in FC pay property taxes in FC and buy my gas in FC, and pay sales taxes in FC. so Ive got one vote...

at least with my drive into DC my only interaction with MD drivers is canal road. i just sit in right lane going ten over while they rush past.


So you cut through neighborhoods on your way to work and want others to just get out of your way while you do it. You are part of the problem just like everyone else.