Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's just admit... the driver in this situation is a trash human. Not only the traffic violations, but then verbally chiding OP after she startled her...

WTF?

I think the people defending her behavior have probably done similar. Shame on you.

Chill out.
Op wasn’t hit.

Honestly that's beside the point.

The truth of the matter is that people are fallible and things are going to happen. It isn't just people on phones it is people who are tired, people who run on autopilot (pedestrians and drivers). You can have a driver who is unfamiliar with the area or looking for an address that might not see a pedestrian. You always have to be alert. You need to look over your left shoulder before crossing to make sure there isn't a car making a right to hit you. You need to slow down and look before crossing an alley even though you are on the sidewalk. You need to pay attention to the traffic the whole time you are crossing and never trust others with your safety. I've taught my children not to even trust me when crossing. I expect them to look before crossing too. I might miss something. Whenever possible don't outsource your safety. To the person who said "must I have my head on a permanent swivel?" YES, YES you should. You are in the city there are many things that can happen at any time. You can complain all you want about what other people do but the only behavior you can control is your own.

Anonymous wrote:Let's just admit... the driver in this situation is a trash human. Not only the traffic violations, but then verbally chiding OP after she startled her...

WTF?

I think the people defending her behavior have probably done similar. Shame on you.

Chill out.
Op wasn’t hit.

Let's just admit... the driver in this situation is a trash human. Not only the traffic violations, but then verbally chiding OP after she startled her...

WTF?

I think the people defending her behavior have probably done similar. Shame on you.

Anonymous wrote:

If you are at a 4 way stop and you see the person is looking at their phone.. do not step into the crosswalk.

If you are driving and you are looking at your phone, put the phone away.

Anonymous wrote:

Yes. I thought she must have had a walker or something ... can't imagine that street being an issue. Yea... when you are handicap, you have to be extra vigilant.

Good grief, now we're focusing on the fact that the pedestrian was using a walker. Anything to avoid the real issues of driver responsibility and road design, I guess.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't care if it's the law for cars to yield to people in the crosswalk I always check before I step into a crosswalk, I don't trust people to stop. People don't pay attention

Yes, we all know that, and yes, it actually is the law.

Now, what do you do when you're driving? That's the real question. Do you obey the law?

99% of the time yes, I stop for people in the crosswalk BUT I have blown by people that I haven't seen and thank god they had not stepped out and saw that I was not stopping.

You need to slow down and think of your obligation to NOT HIT PEOPLE WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING, regardless of what they might or might not do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, yes you had the right of way. I think the other poster’s point is that there’s no right of way in heaven. (Per a saying I once saw in another country.) This means don’t rely on others for your safety even if you do have the right of way. It could save your life.

I wasn't relying on others for my safety. I was crossing the street. Should we not cross streets? Should there be no pedestrians in the city? Should I have to worry about being killed just because I'm not in a car?

Yes, given the number of pedestrian deaths I would say a little bit of worry is not a bad thing -- basically, even when crossing with the light you should be cautious. I thought this was common sense.

+100 It IS common sense but the most uncommon thing is common sense...

Anonymous wrote:

CARS need to be extra vigilant as well.

DRIVERS need to be extra vigilant. We don't have self-driving cars yet.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pedestrian safety requires eye contact with the driver. Nobody in DC makes eye contact that is why pedestrians have so many problems.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/motr/safe-crossings-the-power-of-eye-contact.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-key-to-crossing-the-street-safely-eye-contact-1427734205

AGAIN...how would eye contact have helped the OP who was deep within the crosswalk when a speeding driver ran the stop sign?

The OP saw the car ... 1/2 way down the street... the intersection in question allows for 2 car lengths at most. You tell me how the OP was not across the street in time.

The OP indicated she is using a cane at this time due to a torn meniscus. I'm sure that slowed her down. And do you know Hiatt? It's a very short block.

Yes. I thought she must have had a walker or something ... can't imagine that street being an issue. Yea... when you are handicap, you have to be extra vigilant.

CARS need to be extra vigilant as well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pedestrian safety requires eye contact with the driver. Nobody in DC makes eye contact that is why pedestrians have so many problems.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/motr/safe-crossings-the-power-of-eye-contact.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-key-to-crossing-the-street-safely-eye-contact-1427734205

AGAIN...how would eye contact have helped the OP who was deep within the crosswalk when a speeding driver ran the stop sign?

The OP saw the car ... 1/2 way down the street... the intersection in question allows for 2 car lengths at most. You tell me how the OP was not across the street in time.

The OP indicated she is using a cane at this time due to a torn meniscus. I'm sure that slowed her down. And do you know Hiatt? It's a very short block.

Yes. I thought she must have had a walker or something ... can't imagine that street being an issue. Yea... when you are handicap, you have to be extra vigilant.

Don't forget the car was speeding. So it took a shorter time for it to reach the intersection. And it blew through the stop sign.

I'm tired of this "vigilant" crap. When pedestrians are obeying the law, the onus is on the DRIVER.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't care if it's the law for cars to yield to people in the crosswalk I always check before I step into a crosswalk, I don't trust people to stop. People don't pay attention

Yes, we all know that, and yes, it actually is the law.

Now, what do you do when you're driving? That's the real question. Do you obey the law?

99% of the time yes, I stop for people in the crosswalk BUT I have blown by people that I haven't seen and thank god they had not stepped out and saw that I was not stopping.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pedestrian safety requires eye contact with the driver. Nobody in DC makes eye contact that is why pedestrians have so many problems.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/motr/safe-crossings-the-power-of-eye-contact.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-key-to-crossing-the-street-safely-eye-contact-1427734205

AGAIN...how would eye contact have helped the OP who was deep within the crosswalk when a speeding driver ran the stop sign?

The OP saw the car ... 1/2 way down the street... the intersection in question allows for 2 car lengths at most. You tell me how the OP was not across the street in time.

The OP indicated she is using a cane at this time due to a torn meniscus. I'm sure that slowed her down. And do you know Hiatt? It's a very short block.

Yes. I thought she must have had a walker or something ... can't imagine that street being an issue. Yea... when you are handicap, you have to be extra vigilant.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't care if it's the law for cars to yield to people in the crosswalk I always check before I step into a crosswalk, I don't trust people to stop. People don't pay attention

Another "duh" comment that has nothing to do with Op's situation and other similar ones. And one that has been repeated approximately 8 million times on this thread.

Oh, well thank you DCUM police for correcting me on stupidly making a comment on a forum that has already been made

Get over yourself

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pedestrian safety requires eye contact with the driver. Nobody in DC makes eye contact that is why pedestrians have so many problems.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/motr/safe-crossings-the-power-of-eye-contact.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-key-to-crossing-the-street-safely-eye-contact-1427734205

AGAIN...how would eye contact have helped the OP who was deep within the crosswalk when a speeding driver ran the stop sign?

The OP saw the car ... 1/2 way down the street... the intersection in question allows for 2 car lengths at most. You tell me how the OP was not across the street in time.

The OP indicated she is using a cane at this time due to a torn meniscus. I'm sure that slowed her down. And do you know Hiatt? It's a very short block.