Anonymous
06/15/2019 16:59
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
"I doubt that Greek life will be her primary decision point about college"
Where are you people from???
Where are you people from???
Anonymous
06/15/2019 15:12
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?
Even if she did get in, what exactly is the point of being in a "top house" if you have nothing in common with the other members of the sorority in terms of background, connections, personal history, etc.? Trust me, she will always feel like an outsider.
Not necessarily. That’s actually the point.
very, very unlikely though
If it is a sorority culture that is looking for specific geographic homogeneity, then sure, if they want all girls from certain high schools in Alabama and you’re not from one of those high schools, you’re not going to get in and you’re not gonna like it if you do.
That’s on trying to find out, if it’s a sorority culture that is looking for certain types of girls but not from specific places or specific high schools or specific regions, a girl who is unknown to the members could still fit in.
There’s a place for everyone but your DD needs to be honest with herself about where she feels a connection instead of forcing herself to be like the ABC XYZ girls because they’re “the best”.
Agree with you. I don’t think this will be a problem for her, she’s pretty independent. But based on what has been shared here, she may prefer a school that has a greek culture that is less competitive than the SEC schools. I doubt that Greek life will be her primary decision point about college but it’s good to go in with as much information as possible about what to expect.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 15:11
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?
The "worse house" in the SEC is "better" (higher GPA, prettier women, more extracurricular leadership) than most "top houses" at most schools. If you are going to the SEC, accept the bid you get and be happy. Don't listen to the haters.
Indiana is the only school as competitive as the SEC. Indiana doesn't guarantee placement for women who compete recruitment. Women can be invited to the preference round and still go bidless.
Thanks for the feedback. How competitive are southern schools like UNC, Duke, Vanderbilt, Tulane, Clemson?
Competitive, but not insane the way Texas is. I would get specific advice on thees schools from Greekchat.com. They're very helpful.
Also look for recruitment advice from the school's Panhellenic Council. Some are bare bones and some are fancy, like Alabama's: http://www.uapanhellenic.com/greek-chic-recruitment-guide
NPC has a general information site that is not specific to any campus, but might be helpfulhttp://thesororitylife.com/index.aspx
Anonymous
06/15/2019 15:08
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?
Even if she did get in, what exactly is the point of being in a "top house" if you have nothing in common with the other members of the sorority in terms of background, connections, personal history, etc.? Trust me, she will always feel like an outsider.
Not necessarily. That’s actually the point.
very, very unlikely though
If it is a sorority culture that is looking for specific geographic homogeneity, then sure, if they want all girls from certain high schools in Alabama and you’re not from one of those high schools, you’re not going to get in and you’re not gonna like it if you do.
That’s on trying to find out, if it’s a sorority culture that is looking for certain types of girls but not from specific places or specific high schools or specific regions, a girl who is unknown to the members could still fit in.
There’s a place for everyone but your DD needs to be honest with herself about where she feels a connection instead of forcing herself to be like the ABC XYZ girls because they’re “the best”.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 15:04
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do these kind of consultants even exist? OMG, and I was even in a sorority.
I don’t know why this is surprising in an area where middle school athletes have “visualization coaches” and kids taking elementary exams for entrance into private schools “prep” with expensive tutors. Maybe you don’t value Greek life (I don’t either), but apparently enough do and it’s created this market, just like paid “home organizers” and personal shoppers. It’s all absurd but here we are.
I know right?! My coworkers daughter went to expensive private school, had ACT private tutor, 2 subject tutors, private college counselor AND college essay tutor. Also, did expensive sport with 2 different specialty coach -- one mental and one physical. She is now Freshman in college (not playing sport) at college that any public school kid with 1100 on SATs over 3.0 could get into. And this crowd is blasting a one time advisor for a competitive process that few are familiar with that impacts 4 years of college and lifetime connections --- so weird. No skin in game, this is shocking to me that rush is so competitive but hiring a consultant for the process does not seem wacko to me.
You people who are equating tutors to greek consultants have gone round the bend. Your priorities are beyond effed up.
You missed the point.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 14:20
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?
Even if she did get in, what exactly is the point of being in a "top house" if you have nothing in common with the other members of the sorority in terms of background, connections, personal history, etc.? Trust me, she will always feel like an outsider.
Not necessarily. That’s actually the point.
The point is to get into a sorority where you have very little, if anything, in common with the other girls? Say what?
No. The point is, as it already been predetermined by sorority, or is it a sorority that is open to actually meeting the potential new members.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 14:19
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?
Even if she did get in, what exactly is the point of being in a "top house" if you have nothing in common with the other members of the sorority in terms of background, connections, personal history, etc.? Trust me, she will always feel like an outsider.
Not necessarily. That’s actually the point.
very, very unlikely though
If it is a sorority culture that is looking for specific geographic homogeneity, then sure, if they want all girls from certain high schools in Alabama and you’re not from one of those high schools, you’re not going to get in and you’re not gonna like it if you do.
That’s on trying to find out, if it’s a sorority culture that is looking for certain types of girls but not from specific places or specific high schools or specific regions, a girl who is unknown to the members could still fit in.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 14:13
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
For some neutral data, try searching about greek life in PubMed (i.e., a medical/public health database of scientific research) .
You will see that membership in a fraternity/sorority has repeatedly been identified as a risk factor for (committing and experiencing) sexual assault.
Ah...traditions.
You will see that membership in a fraternity/sorority has repeatedly been identified as a risk factor for (committing and experiencing) sexual assault.
Ah...traditions.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 14:11
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do these kind of consultants even exist? OMG, and I was even in a sorority.
I don’t know why this is surprising in an area where middle school athletes have “visualization coaches” and kids taking elementary exams for entrance into private schools “prep” with expensive tutors. Maybe you don’t value Greek life (I don’t either), but apparently enough do and it’s created this market, just like paid “home organizers” and personal shoppers. It’s all absurd but here we are.
I know right?! My coworkers daughter went to expensive private school, had ACT private tutor, 2 subject tutors, private college counselor AND college essay tutor. Also, did expensive sport with 2 different specialty coach -- one mental and one physical. She is now Freshman in college (not playing sport) at college that any public school kid with 1100 on SATs over 3.0 could get into. And this crowd is blasting a one time advisor for a competitive process that few are familiar with that impacts 4 years of college and lifetime connections --- so weird. No skin in game, this is shocking to me that rush is so competitive but hiring a consultant for the process does not seem wacko to me.
You people who are equating tutors to greek consultants have gone round the bend. Your priorities are beyond effed up.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 14:09
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
Anonymous wrote:O-M-F-G
This falls into the category of "things I didn't know existed but helps prove the end of civilized society as we know it."
Agreed. This makes me feel like we'd have been better off had we let the South go while we had the chance.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 14:07
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?
Even if she did get in, what exactly is the point of being in a "top house" if you have nothing in common with the other members of the sorority in terms of background, connections, personal history, etc.? Trust me, she will always feel like an outsider.
Not necessarily. That’s actually the point.
The point is to get into a sorority where you have very little, if anything, in common with the other girls? Say what?
Anonymous
06/15/2019 14:02
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
This thread is like taking a trip to some exotic land. I am trying not to be judgemental...but this whole way of thinking is extremely foreign to me or anyone I ever met (and I am in my 60's). I had no idea it still went on or that there were parents who encouraged their children to "pursue" such goals in college.
We literally would not apply to any school that had a strong greek presence. Again, not saying our approach is superior in any way...but it IS interesting when presumably intelligent, well intentioned people come down on such different sides of an issue.
We literally would not apply to any school that had a strong greek presence. Again, not saying our approach is superior in any way...but it IS interesting when presumably intelligent, well intentioned people come down on such different sides of an issue.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 14:02
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?
Even if she did get in, what exactly is the point of being in a "top house" if you have nothing in common with the other members of the sorority in terms of background, connections, personal history, etc.? Trust me, she will always feel like an outsider.
Not necessarily. That’s actually the point.
very, very unlikely though
Anonymous
06/15/2019 13:58
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?
Even if she did get in, what exactly is the point of being in a "top house" if you have nothing in common with the other members of the sorority in terms of background, connections, personal history, etc.? Trust me, she will always feel like an outsider.
Not necessarily. That’s actually the point.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 13:55
Subject: Sorority Recruitment Coach/Consultant
Anonymous wrote:My DD is interested in sororities but having read this thread, it sounds like it’s impossible to get into a top house in the SEC without connections- eg, southern high school, southern family/connections/friends to advocate for you. Are there any other schools/regions!where it is similarly competitive?
Even if she did get in, what exactly is the point of being in a "top house" if you have nothing in common with the other members of the sorority in terms of background, connections, personal history, etc.? Trust me, she will always feel like an outsider.