Anonymous
05/27/2019 16:50
Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
A candidate like Karen Keys Gamarra is all about “equity” but one of the first things she did was to vote to move rich kids from Jackson MS to Thoreau MS. If she really cares about equity, let her own and her own mistakes before she starts messing with other people’s schools.
And, she did not want "justice" but Justice Thurgood Marshall (even though there was already a "Marshall" High. ) She did not understand the parliamentary procedure on the amendments. (Frankly, I don't either.) But, she could not even support what she wanted because of that mistake.
There are several candidates running on "equity." Go read Abrar Omeish's platform.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 16:46
Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, if the SB members are running on "equity," you better fasten your seatbelts.
Then may run on equity. They won’t win on it.
Since many of them are running unopposed or with minimally funded opposition, they may win. What they actually do besides talk and avoid decisions, however, is anyone’s guess.
A candidate like Karen Keys Gamarra is all about “equity” but one of the first things she did was to vote to move rich kids from Jackson MS to Thoreau MS. If she really cares about equity, let her own and her own mistakes before she starts messing with other people’s schools.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 16:45
Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, if the SB members are running on "equity," you better fasten your seatbelts.
Then may run on equity. They won’t win on it.
Yes, they will. The Dems will hand out the flyers and our sheep will pull the levers.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 16:40
Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Well, if the SB members are running on "equity," you better fasten your seatbelts.
Then may run on equity. They won’t win on it.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 16:30
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Have you seen the boundary lines for Hayfield? Very puzzling. Seems county reps could take a closer look here.
When Hayfield was super over crowded and they were building South County, the parents in the new South County zone made sure that the undesirables in Lorton would be kept at Hayfield. The Lorton area is much closer to South County HS, but the poors are bused up to Alexandria. It is a very odd boundary -- usually there are SES reasons for those boundaries.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 15:36
Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Well, if the SB members are running on "equity," you better fasten your seatbelts.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 15:35
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Again, does the county really need IB? How expensive would it be to abolish it?
Anonymous
05/27/2019 15:19
Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
You are never going to achieve the same balance in every school.
So, there are a couple of schools that are unbalanced. That's too bad, but a lot of it is a factor of location.
Here's a question: Is Herndon able to provide enough AP classes? I suspect that it is. Is it able to provide the ESOL that some kids need? I suspect that it does.
I don't know about Mt. Vernon, as IB is different from AP and is much more rigid in its requirements. I'm guessing that it also provides an "out" for kids to pupil place. Does anyone have those stats?
So, there are a couple of schools that are unbalanced. That's too bad, but a lot of it is a factor of location.
Here's a question: Is Herndon able to provide enough AP classes? I suspect that it is. Is it able to provide the ESOL that some kids need? I suspect that it does.
I don't know about Mt. Vernon, as IB is different from AP and is much more rigid in its requirements. I'm guessing that it also provides an "out" for kids to pupil place. Does anyone have those stats?
Anonymous
05/27/2019 14:38
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Have you seen the boundary lines for Hayfield? Very puzzling. Seems county reps could take a closer look here.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 14:34
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
You’re going to have to offer something more granular than a reference to a journalist’s Wiki page if you want to advance this discussion.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 14:31
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which school in FCPS do we think has the best mix of SES and races?
This country (not just county) has resegregated, mostly among SEE lines.
And it’s really obvious in our county where the haves and have nots are.
And it really isn’t fair, especially to the have nots.
We need to figure out how to balance equity and transportation. It isn’t easy, but it has to be done. I’m not just talking about in Fairfax-it has to be done nationwide, because segregation is actually worse now than pre-Brown in many places.
Please support this analysis.
Every high school in FCPS is substantially less white than it was 10 or 20 years ago and, with only two exceptions (TJ and Langley), every high school in the county has a higher percentage of low-income kids. It is the case that the increase in poverty has been the largest in certain areas, due primarily to the concentration of older, more affordable apartments in those areas.
To whom is this unfair and in what ways? Would it be fairer if the immigrants had never been allowed to crossed the border? Or if the housing stock they can afford had been torn down, forcing more of them to live out in Prince William instead?
These aren’t rhetorical questions - it’s unclear whether your focus on “equity” is based on concern for the “have nots” or instead based on concerns for the “haves” who happen to live closer to the “have nots.”
PP is not only talking about racial segregation, but more importantly SES segregation. Please look at FCPS high school FARM rates and demographics between Langley vs Herndon. Absolutely outrageous when considering the current boundary lines (which make no sense).
It's not just those high schools either - although the paradox is very obvious - Alexandria has it's own set of problems.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 14:25
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 14:00
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Which school in FCPS do we think has the best mix of SES and races?
This country (not just county) has resegregated, mostly among SEE lines.
And it’s really obvious in our county where the haves and have nots are.
And it really isn’t fair, especially to the have nots.
We need to figure out how to balance equity and transportation. It isn’t easy, but it has to be done. I’m not just talking about in Fairfax-it has to be done nationwide, because segregation is actually worse now than pre-Brown in many places.
Please support this analysis.
Every high school in FCPS is substantially less white than it was 10 or 20 years ago and, with only two exceptions (TJ and Langley), every high school in the county has a higher percentage of low-income kids. It is the case that the increase in poverty has been the largest in certain areas, due primarily to the concentration of older, more affordable apartments in those areas.
To whom is this unfair and in what ways? Would it be fairer if the immigrants had never been allowed to crossed the border? Or if the housing stock they can afford had been torn down, forcing more of them to live out in Prince William instead?
These aren’t rhetorical questions - it’s unclear whether your focus on “equity” is based on concern for the “have nots” or instead based on concerns for the “haves” who happen to live closer to the “have nots.”
Anonymous
05/27/2019 13:56
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Which school in FCPS do we think has the best mix of SES and races?
This country (not just county) has resegregated, mostly among SEE lines.
And it’s really obvious in our county where the haves and have nots are.
And it really isn’t fair, especially to the have nots.
We need to figure out how to balance equity and transportation. It isn’t easy, but it has to be done. I’m not just talking about in Fairfax-it has to be done nationwide, because segregation is actually worse now than pre-Brown in many places.
+1
Anonymous
05/27/2019 13:56
Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
I wonder what PP thinks will be achieved by leveling demographics? The high schools pretty much run two programs--one for AP/IB and one for everyone else.