Anonymous
03/04/2012 13:22
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
Looks like the link to the Bullis college list didn't take -- here's another try: http://www.bullis.org/academics/college-counseling/colleges-attended-list/index.aspx (or just google "Bullis School colleges attended list")
Anonymous
03/04/2012 13:18
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://www.bullis.org/college-counseling/colleges-attended-list/index.aspx
Here is the college matriculation list. The kids go to ok colleges but the list seems underwhelming to me. I would not rank this school as high as some of the others.
I'm tired of the snark about Bullis on DCUM. Here's a comparison of Bullis to St. Albans based on one of the college counseling pages from each school's website. St. Alban's 2006 -2010 matriculation list only includes schools where 2 or more students have attended. The Bullis matriculation list, on the other hand, includes all colleges attended.
Comparing Bullis to STA, Bullis has not sent 2 students to the following colleges/universities from 2006-2010: Bennington, Brandeis, U Chicago, Cornell, Dartmouth, University of Edinburgh, Guilford, Haverford, Pomona, U Rochester, Swarthmore, Williams. Bullis lists one less matriculated student than STA at Brown, Colgate, Furman, Hamilton, Howard, Lehigh, U Miami, Princeton, Rhodes, Sewanee, St. Andrews, Stanford, Trinity, Washington and Lee and Yale. This year the Bullis class of 2011 received acceptances from Brandeis (2) , U Chicago (1), U Miami (11), U Rochester (1), Sewanee (1), St. Andrews (1), Trinity (1), Washington and Lee (1)
St. Alban's has NOT sent 2 students to the following schools from 2006-2010 whereas Bullis has sent AT LEAST two: Emory, MIT, NYU, UCLA, Notre Dame, McGill, Berkeley, Gettysburg, Franklin and Marshall, GW and RIT. (And no snark about the last few entries here - they are more highly ranked than Bennington and Guilford).
Both schools have at least two students at: Amherst, BC, BU, Bowdoin, Bucknell, Carnegie Mellon, Colby, College of Charleston, College of William and Mary, Columbia, Davidson, Dickinson, Duke, Georgetown, Harvard, Indiana, Johns Hopkins, Kenyon, Maryland, Michigan, Middlebury, Morehouse, Northwestern, Penn State, Penn, SMU, Tufts, Tulane, Vanderbilt, Vermont, Villanova, Vermont, UVA, Wash U and Wesleyan.
And lest you start blabbing about athletics, my child was admitted to college based on academics while a senior from STA attending the SAME college was recruited for athletics.
My point is that there are several private schools in the D.C. area that have great track records when it comes to getting students into good colleges. It's not just the good old boy and good old girl (kinda silly but you know what I mean) schools any more and there's no need for the good old boy schools to dismiss Bullis.
I know this is an old post, but since the thread has gone live I thought I'd comment on this post, since the methodology is so off. Bullis (to its credit), has a college matriculation list that includes the exact number of students enrolled at colleges/universities from 2007-2011: http://www.bullis.org/academics/college-counseling/colleges-attended-list/index.aspx. St. Albans' list give much less information -- it just lists all colleges to which at least one St. Albans student matriculated during the same five-year period: http://www.stalbansschool.org/page.aspx?pid=722
You might logically think that the school giving less info (St. Albans) has the worse results, right? In fact, its results are much stronger than Bullis. Purely by way of example, Bullis from its own chart has had 4 students total attend HYP (Harvard-Yale-Princeton) in the past five years. Just for this year alone, per DCUM postings (see the "Cathedral Schools" thread, page 2, http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/205697.page) St. Albans had 10 students admitted to HYP for early decision (meaning it is 10 different boys): 5 to Harvard, 4 to Yale, 1 to Princeton (and then of course more at other Ivies). Why doesn't STA give more information, then, since its results are extremely good? Probably it is a sense that they don't have to for their marketing, that the good college matriculations (or "exmissions" in DCUM speak) are a known quantity in this area.
This is not to be dismissive of Bullis -- I've heard some good things about the teaching and am sure they prepare their students well for college -- but if the quoted post was meant to suggest that Bullis as a school has the same type of academic cohort as St. Albans (with college matriculations as a metric), that is not borne out by the data.
Anonymous
03/04/2012 12:32
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
Bullis was second tier under the old administration. Not through any fault -- more a factor of being located in MoCo where the public school option is such a good one. Under the new admin, fairly or not, its academic reputation has deteriorated as its sports reputation has strengthened -- it is coming to be seen as a "renegade" member of its sports conferences (which, to be clear, would not be very 'renegade' compared to, say, Texas high school football).
On the sports front, for golf your youngster might be okay. For a sport like basketball, the varsity slots will be taken up by highly recruited athletes (including from Canada, in one recent case). To be fair to Bullis, that's increasingly the case at the other local privates as well -- they are more or less all starting to take the "Harvard road" for basketball (recruit a few "ringers"). There will still be lots of other athletic opportunities (no cut sports like track, cross country; or less high-profile sports like soccer) , but fewer in the higher profiles sports.
On the sports front, for golf your youngster might be okay. For a sport like basketball, the varsity slots will be taken up by highly recruited athletes (including from Canada, in one recent case). To be fair to Bullis, that's increasingly the case at the other local privates as well -- they are more or less all starting to take the "Harvard road" for basketball (recruit a few "ringers"). There will still be lots of other athletic opportunities (no cut sports like track, cross country; or less high-profile sports like soccer) , but fewer in the higher profiles sports.
Anonymous
03/04/2012 11:55
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
Unless you kid is an elite AAU basketball player, don't bother with Bullis.
Anonymous
03/04/2012 11:38
Subject: Re:Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
We are considering Bullis for our middle-school aged son who currently attends Cabin John Middle School, a public school in Potomac. As an educator, I have some concern about where Bullis students have matriculated post high school. However, as a mother of a kid in an MCPS "W" school cluster, the emphasis on rote memorization and constant assessments has been disturbing. While my son is technically "GT" by MCPS standards, he's functioning as a robot academicaly -- constantly focused on the next assessment as opposed to enjoying learning, which disturbs me as an educator and parent. Moreover, with the exception of email, his teachers are not very accessable as there are 30 plus kids in each of his 7 subjects. Thus, we are looking for a school that develops the whole child and places an emphasis on the joy and rewards of lifelong learning, one where the teachers love what they do and inspire the student body to do their very best.
Our son is also athletic and enjoys golf and basketball. Anyone with recent information regarding Bullis, please share your experiences.
Our son is also athletic and enjoys golf and basketball. Anyone with recent information regarding Bullis, please share your experiences.
Anonymous
05/22/2011 12:26
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
Anonymous wrote:http://www.bullis.org/college-counseling/colleges-attended-list/index.aspx
Here is the college matriculation list. The kids go to ok colleges but the list seems underwhelming to me. I would not rank this school as high as some of the others.
I'm tired of the snark about Bullis on DCUM. Here's a comparison of Bullis to St. Albans based on one of the college counseling pages from each school's website. St. Alban's 2006 -2010 matriculation list only includes schools where 2 or more students have attended. The Bullis matriculation list, on the other hand, includes all colleges attended.
Comparing Bullis to STA, Bullis has not sent 2 students to the following colleges/universities from 2006-2010: Bennington, Brandeis, U Chicago, Cornell, Dartmouth, University of Edinburgh, Guilford, Haverford, Pomona, U Rochester, Swarthmore, Williams. Bullis lists one less matriculated student than STA at Brown, Colgate, Furman, Hamilton, Howard, Lehigh, U Miami, Princeton, Rhodes, Sewanee, St. Andrews, Stanford, Trinity, Washington and Lee and Yale. This year the Bullis class of 2011 received acceptances from Brandeis (2) , U Chicago (1), U Miami (11), U Rochester (1), Sewanee (1), St. Andrews (1), Trinity (1), Washington and Lee (1)
St. Alban's has NOT sent 2 students to the following schools from 2006-2010 whereas Bullis has sent AT LEAST two: Emory, MIT, NYU, UCLA, Notre Dame, McGill, Berkeley, Gettysburg, Franklin and Marshall, GW and RIT. (And no snark about the last few entries here - they are more highly ranked than Bennington and Guilford).
Both schools have at least two students at: Amherst, BC, BU, Bowdoin, Bucknell, Carnegie Mellon, Colby, College of Charleston, College of William and Mary, Columbia, Davidson, Dickinson, Duke, Georgetown, Harvard, Indiana, Johns Hopkins, Kenyon, Maryland, Michigan, Middlebury, Morehouse, Northwestern, Penn State, Penn, SMU, Tufts, Tulane, Vanderbilt, Vermont, Villanova, Vermont, UVA, Wash U and Wesleyan.
And lest you start blabbing about athletics, my child was admitted to college based on academics while a senior from STA attending the SAME college was recruited for athletics.
My point is that there are several private schools in the D.C. area that have great track records when it comes to getting students into good colleges. It's not just the good old boy and good old girl (kinda silly but you know what I mean) schools any more and there's no need for the good old boy schools to dismiss Bullis.
Anonymous
04/29/2011 15:40
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
I have to say I agree with the low ranking of Bullis academically. Did anyone else notice the high rate of faculty turnover that seems to be happening. In the middle school alone a learning specialist, two science teachers, a math teacher and a Spanish teacher. Many people leaving mid-year in the high school. It's hard to judge the academics and faculty of a school if the faculty is always changing.
What does everyone else think? Any guesses on what's happening?
What does everyone else think? Any guesses on what's happening?
Anonymous
04/29/2011 13:09
Subject: Re:Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
[i][b]Landon and Prep get kids in to excellent colleges because of their performance on the athletic field. [/b][/i]
Agree. We are surprised by how average the student body and academics are at Prep and Landon. When you look closer the truth appears. What does the list of college placement look like at these schools without the placements based on athletic scholarships/recruitments?
Agree. We are surprised by how average the student body and academics are at Prep and Landon. When you look closer the truth appears. What does the list of college placement look like at these schools without the placements based on athletic scholarships/recruitments?
Anonymous
04/29/2011 13:08
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
According to the Google spreadsheet that I found on this site, Potomac's average SAT scores is 1342 compared with 1289 for Landon.
Anonymous
04/29/2011 12:47
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
Landon and Prep get kids in to excellent colleges because of their performance on the athletic field.
Potomac gets kids in to excellent colleges base on their performance in the classroom.
Potomac gets kids in to excellent colleges base on their performance in the classroom.
Anonymous
04/28/2011 22:32
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
I also agree with 18:45, not the biggest fan of Potomac, but My DS applied to Georgetown Prep, STA, Potomac, and Sidwell. Got into everyone of them besides Sidwell, but considering Prep is almost identical with Landon, Landon should definitely go above Potomac.
Anonymous
04/28/2011 22:02
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
Bullis is higher in academics than this list suggests. The writing program is very strong as is the quality of the classes, especially AP.
Anonymous
04/28/2011 18:45
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
Definitely not. Landon is superior to Potomac in academics. College matriculation and SAT scores would probably show that.
Anonymous
04/28/2011 18:20
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
Agreed.
Anonymous
04/28/2011 17:18
Subject: Bullis, Sidwell, Landon, Maret, Georgetown Day, Potomac ... does this ranking make sense?
Academics
1) Sidwell
2) GDS
3) Potomac
4) Maret
5) Landon
6) Bullis
Sports
1) Landon
2) Bullis
3) Sidwell
4) Potomac
5) Maret
11) GDS
1) Sidwell
2) GDS
3) Potomac
4) Maret
5) Landon
6) Bullis
Sports
1) Landon
2) Bullis
3) Sidwell
4) Potomac
5) Maret
11) GDS