Anonymous wrote:Shame on the publisher for being so cowardly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It would be awesome if we lived in a society where race didn't matter, but we live in a society where Black people routinely have the police called on them for....existing in public.
Barbeque with your friends at a grillin a park? A white lady will call 911
Stand on the sidelines of your son's soccer game? A white lady will call 911
Let your 8 year-old daughter run a water/lemonade stand without a permit? A white lady will call 911
Take your child to your own apartment complex pool? A white lady will call 911.
It is in this context that Metro Molly invoked authority to punish a Black woman for a minor infraction that may have not even been an infraction at all.
Huh? for many years Metro has very clearly said that eating in Metro cars is prohibited, period. No exceptions for employees. Where do you get the "might not have been an infraction" stuff?
And comparing this to the other examples above is a false equivalency and you should know that. Lemonade stands, pools, grilling in the park? Nothing at all like a uniformed employee sitting there in full view of everyone breaking a rule so basic that all riders know it, even if those riders want to break it too. That is not at all similar in any way to the cases you cite above. Don't try to make it another "white lady will call 911" case. And you fail to note: The woman who posted is not a white lady. Did you pay any attention to the specific details of this story, or is it just easier for you to pretend this is the same "white lady" who calls 911 on everyone?
White (and white presenting) women invoking authority because they assume they will be taken seriously by virtue of their whiteness (or the way that they present as white) is very much the issue here.
The reason this has blown up, and Tynes should have known this, is that Black men and women have their bodies policed by white strangers from dawn to dusk. So this is stacked on all of those other incidents. It is not identical, but it clearly resonates in the same context.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those of you who think the employee was the problem:
Barry Hobson, the chief of staff for the Metro workers union — Amalgamated Transit Union Local 689 — said in a statement the Metro employee was taking her meal break while in transit from one assignment to another. The statement notes operators have "an average of 20 minutes to consume a meal and get to their next access point to ensure all buses and trains are on time, safe, and ready to serve the riding public.”
From the article posted by OP.
Well then that needs to be addressed in the CBA.
But as a union worker, I can smell the typical BS a mile away. It’s his job to cover for his people. It makes them all look bad when a member is called out.
Give me a break there are a lot of rules that are rules for the public but are different for employees.
Cops can run red lights on the way to A service call
And ambulance can run a red light on the way to device call
I’ve been in lots of doctors offices in which the public is not allowed to use their cell phones but the employees are allowed to use their phones
Been to plenty of public buildings where it says restrooms for employees only
There are plenty of circumstances, contexts, environments in which there are separate rules for those who work there and those who patronize there
if you don’t know the difference, if you don’t get it that’s on you
Exactly! How many of you are taking pics of cops running red lights, speeding, etc then sending the pics in to get them fired?
A black officer speeding or running a red light is rushing to help. Why would I take a pic of that?
How do you know he is black? How do you know he is rushing for help?
Do you take a picture of the flight attendant standing up when the fasten seat belt light is on?
No. In both cases they are doing their jobs. The black flight attendant is doing their job.
But you aren’t allowed to stand up and run red lights. The metro employee was on her way to her job with a 20min break. They allow her to eat on the train. She was doing her job.
Running red light / standing during flight - part of their jobs
Chowing down on a hot plate? Not
Look at the article that was posted. If eating on the train is so important to you, get a job with metro.
You have no idea if running the red light is for their job.
Right. We don’t know about the red might running
We DO KNOW that eating on the train ISN’T part of her job.
But she's black.
Nornal rules don't apply.
Anonymous wrote:Yes, whites have been policing black bodies and actions forever, but the racism here goes both ways. I work somewhere where if a black person is incompetent, no action will be taken so no one accuses the manager of being racist, when i go to the store or coffee shop or anywhere with a service, plenty of times I get rude service from black women, I know if I complain i’ll be viewed as racist so I am more likely to complain about bad service by whites than not and rarely complain about rude and bad service at all. It is racist to allow black people a different standard because we are afraid of racism or as if we don’t expect they too can follow the laws we do. Just like when we assume men have urges women don’t hence cheat. The metro employee was in the wrong. Doesn’t matter her circumstances. I pull 9 hour days and cannot get in a bite sometimes. NT was wrong to tweet the picture. Maybe a tweet without the photo but this whole public shaming thing needs to stop. This outrage did nothing to advance dialogue or fix any issues but it sure as hell fired up the racists who already claim black people are q protected class and their actions are never held to the same standard as white actions.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It would be awesome if we lived in a society where race didn't matter, but we live in a society where Black people routinely have the police called on them for....existing in public.
Barbeque with your friends at a grillin a park? A white lady will call 911
Stand on the sidelines of your son's soccer game? A white lady will call 911
Let your 8 year-old daughter run a water/lemonade stand without a permit? A white lady will call 911
Take your child to your own apartment complex pool? A white lady will call 911.
It is in this context that Metro Molly invoked authority to punish a Black woman for a minor infraction that may have not even been an infraction at all.
Huh? for many years Metro has very clearly said that eating in Metro cars is prohibited, period. No exceptions for employees. Where do you get the "might not have been an infraction" stuff?
And comparing this to the other examples above is a false equivalency and you should know that. Lemonade stands, pools, grilling in the park? Nothing at all like a uniformed employee sitting there in full view of everyone breaking a rule so basic that all riders know it, even if those riders want to break it too. That is not at all similar in any way to the cases you cite above. Don't try to make it another "white lady will call 911" case. And you fail to note: The woman who posted is not a white lady. Did you pay any attention to the specific details of this story, or is it just easier for you to pretend this is the same "white lady" who calls 911 on everyone?
White (and white presenting) women invoking authority because they assume they will be taken seriously by virtue of their whiteness (or the way that they present as white) is very much the issue here.
The reason this has blown up, and Tynes should have known this, is that Black men and women have their bodies policed by white strangers from dawn to dusk. So this is stacked on all of those other incidents. It is not identical, but it clearly resonates in the same context.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those of you who think the employee was the problem:
Barry Hobson, the chief of staff for the Metro workers union — Amalgamated Transit Union Local 689 — said in a statement the Metro employee was taking her meal break while in transit from one assignment to another. The statement notes operators have "an average of 20 minutes to consume a meal and get to their next access point to ensure all buses and trains are on time, safe, and ready to serve the riding public.”
From the article posted by OP.
Well then that needs to be addressed in the CBA.
But as a union worker, I can smell the typical BS a mile away. It’s his job to cover for his people. It makes them all look bad when a member is called out.
Give me a break there are a lot of rules that are rules for the public but are different for employees.
Cops can run red lights on the way to A service call
And ambulance can run a red light on the way to device call
I’ve been in lots of doctors offices in which the public is not allowed to use their cell phones but the employees are allowed to use their phones
Been to plenty of public buildings where it says restrooms for employees only
There are plenty of circumstances, contexts, environments in which there are separate rules for those who work there and those who patronize there
if you don’t know the difference, if you don’t get it that’s on you
Exactly! How many of you are taking pics of cops running red lights, speeding, etc then sending the pics in to get them fired?
A black officer speeding or running a red light is rushing to help. Why would I take a pic of that?
How do you know he is black? How do you know he is rushing for help?
Do you take a picture of the flight attendant standing up when the fasten seat belt light is on?
No. In both cases they are doing their jobs. The black flight attendant is doing their job.
But you aren’t allowed to stand up and run red lights. The metro employee was on her way to her job with a 20min break. They allow her to eat on the train. She was doing her job.
Running red light / standing during flight - part of their jobs
Chowing down on a hot plate? Not
Look at the article that was posted. If eating on the train is so important to you, get a job with metro.
You have no idea if running the red light is for their job.
Right. We don’t know about the red might running
We DO KNOW that eating on the train ISN’T part of her job.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Just to clarify:
If the employee wasn't black, would this still be an issue for the publisher?
The answer to this question will tell you what it's really about.
Of course it wouldn't.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those of you who think the employee was the problem:
Barry Hobson, the chief of staff for the Metro workers union — Amalgamated Transit Union Local 689 — said in a statement the Metro employee was taking her meal break while in transit from one assignment to another. The statement notes operators have "an average of 20 minutes to consume a meal and get to their next access point to ensure all buses and trains are on time, safe, and ready to serve the riding public.”
From the article posted by OP.
Well then that needs to be addressed in the CBA.
But as a union worker, I can smell the typical BS a mile away. It’s his job to cover for his people. It makes them all look bad when a member is called out.
Give me a break there are a lot of rules that are rules for the public but are different for employees.
Cops can run red lights on the way to A service call
And ambulance can run a red light on the way to device call
I’ve been in lots of doctors offices in which the public is not allowed to use their cell phones but the employees are allowed to use their phones
Been to plenty of public buildings where it says restrooms for employees only
There are plenty of circumstances, contexts, environments in which there are separate rules for those who work there and those who patronize there
if you don’t know the difference, if you don’t get it that’s on you
Exactly! How many of you are taking pics of cops running red lights, speeding, etc then sending the pics in to get them fired?
A black officer speeding or running a red light is rushing to help. Why would I take a pic of that?
How do you know he is black? How do you know he is rushing for help?
Do you take a picture of the flight attendant standing up when the fasten seat belt light is on?
No. In both cases they are doing their jobs. The black flight attendant is doing their job.
But you aren’t allowed to stand up and run red lights. The metro employee was on her way to her job with a 20min break. They allow her to eat on the train. She was doing her job.
Running red light / standing during flight - part of their jobs
Chowing down on a hot plate? Not
Look at the article that was posted. If eating on the train is so important to you, get a job with metro.
You have no idea if running the red light is for their job.
Anonymous wrote:I love the metro employee for this:
"You worry about yourself."
That is perfect advice.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those of you who think the employee was the problem:
Barry Hobson, the chief of staff for the Metro workers union — Amalgamated Transit Union Local 689 — said in a statement the Metro employee was taking her meal break while in transit from one assignment to another. The statement notes operators have "an average of 20 minutes to consume a meal and get to their next access point to ensure all buses and trains are on time, safe, and ready to serve the riding public.”
From the article posted by OP.
Well then that needs to be addressed in the CBA.
But as a union worker, I can smell the typical BS a mile away. It’s his job to cover for his people. It makes them all look bad when a member is called out.
Give me a break there are a lot of rules that are rules for the public but are different for employees.
Cops can run red lights on the way to A service call
And ambulance can run a red light on the way to device call
I’ve been in lots of doctors offices in which the public is not allowed to use their cell phones but the employees are allowed to use their phones
Been to plenty of public buildings where it says restrooms for employees only
There are plenty of circumstances, contexts, environments in which there are separate rules for those who work there and those who patronize there
if you don’t know the difference, if you don’t get it that’s on you
Exactly! How many of you are taking pics of cops running red lights, speeding, etc then sending the pics in to get them fired?
A black officer speeding or running a red light is rushing to help. Why would I take a pic of that?
How do you know he is black? How do you know he is rushing for help?
Do you take a picture of the flight attendant standing up when the fasten seat belt light is on?
No. In both cases they are doing their jobs. The black flight attendant is doing their job.
But you aren’t allowed to stand up and run red lights. The metro employee was on her way to her job with a 20min break. They allow her to eat on the train. She was doing her job.
Running red light / standing during flight - part of their jobs
Chowing down on a hot plate? Not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It would be awesome if we lived in a society where race didn't matter, but we live in a society where Black people routinely have the police called on them for....existing in public.
Barbeque with your friends at a grillin a park? A white lady will call 911
Stand on the sidelines of your son's soccer game? A white lady will call 911
Let your 8 year-old daughter run a water/lemonade stand without a permit? A white lady will call 911
Take your child to your own apartment complex pool? A white lady will call 911.
It is in this context that Metro Molly invoked authority to punish a Black woman for a minor infraction that may have not even been an infraction at all.
Huh? for many years Metro has very clearly said that eating in Metro cars is prohibited, period. No exceptions for employees. Where do you get the "might not have been an infraction" stuff?
And comparing this to the other examples above is a false equivalency and you should know that. Lemonade stands, pools, grilling in the park? Nothing at all like a uniformed employee sitting there in full view of everyone breaking a rule so basic that all riders know it, even if those riders want to break it too. That is not at all similar in any way to the cases you cite above. Don't try to make it another "white lady will call 911" case. And you fail to note: The woman who posted is not a white lady. Did you pay any attention to the specific details of this story, or is it just easier for you to pretend this is the same "white lady" who calls 911 on everyone?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It would be awesome if we lived in a society where race didn't matter, but we live in a society where Black people routinely have the police called on them for....existing in public.
Barbeque with your friends at a grillin a park? A white lady will call 911
Stand on the sidelines of your son's soccer game? A white lady will call 911
Let your 8 year-old daughter run a water/lemonade stand without a permit? A white lady will call 911
Take your child to your own apartment complex pool? A white lady will call 911.
It is in this context that Metro Molly invoked authority to punish a Black woman for a minor infraction that may have not even been an infraction at all.
Huh? for many years Metro has very clearly said that eating in Metro cars is prohibited, period. No exceptions for employees. Where do you get the "might not have been an infraction" stuff?
And comparing this to the other examples above is a false equivalency and you should know that. Lemonade stands, pools, grilling in the park? Nothing at all like a uniformed employee sitting there in full view of everyone breaking a rule so basic that all riders know it, even if those riders want to break it too. That is not at all similar in any way to the cases you cite above. Don't try to make it another "white lady will call 911" case. And you fail to note: The woman who posted is not a white lady. Did you pay any attention to the specific details of this story, or is it just easier for you to pretend this is the same "white lady" who calls 911 on everyone?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those of you who think the employee was the problem:
Barry Hobson, the chief of staff for the Metro workers union — Amalgamated Transit Union Local 689 — said in a statement the Metro employee was taking her meal break while in transit from one assignment to another. The statement notes operators have "an average of 20 minutes to consume a meal and get to their next access point to ensure all buses and trains are on time, safe, and ready to serve the riding public.”
From the article posted by OP.
Well then that needs to be addressed in the CBA.
But as a union worker, I can smell the typical BS a mile away. It’s his job to cover for his people. It makes them all look bad when a member is called out.
Give me a break there are a lot of rules that are rules for the public but are different for employees.
Cops can run red lights on the way to A service call
And ambulance can run a red light on the way to device call
I’ve been in lots of doctors offices in which the public is not allowed to use their cell phones but the employees are allowed to use their phones
Been to plenty of public buildings where it says restrooms for employees only
There are plenty of circumstances, contexts, environments in which there are separate rules for those who work there and those who patronize there
if you don’t know the difference, if you don’t get it that’s on you
Exactly! How many of you are taking pics of cops running red lights, speeding, etc then sending the pics in to get them fired?
A black officer speeding or running a red light is rushing to help. Why would I take a pic of that?
How do you know he is black? How do you know he is rushing for help?
Do you take a picture of the flight attendant standing up when the fasten seat belt light is on?
No. In both cases they are doing their jobs. The black flight attendant is doing their job.
But you aren’t allowed to stand up and run red lights. The metro employee was on her way to her job with a 20min break. They allow her to eat on the train. She was doing her job.