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Anonymous wrote:My concern is this part time player stuff. This doesn't seem right. Usually a team has a few and even that is suspect. I would not want to have the PT/FT DA practices together. It makes no sense. If you want a team to compete, they need to be tight and know how they each play. We had this on our team with a few and it was a disaster for all sides. Does not work.

Mine plays DA, and at this level you can play or you can't. You either play fast with your head up or get overwhelmed by the speed of the game.

The PT players come in and practice and get overwhelmed most of the time...but they get the opportunity to practice 1-2 times per week at the faster pace and better quality.

Every local DA has PT players. Arlington and FCV have second teams with PT players. MU will have multiple local options for second teams. PT is a good option for player who may not be quite ready yet for the level of play of DA but who are motivated to get better. If you check game reports on US soccer DA website all three teams have used PT players in recent games.

Can you provide that link for the game FCV used a PT player.

I'll wait right here

http://www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/ss/view_game_report.php?eventId=5383493&teamId=7441697

there's your freebie. do your own research next time.

Got me...found a single GK! I suppose if you count GK then FCV has used a couple. GK's are a harder commodity to hoard.

Here's an honest question that might help illuminate the purpose of DP's to begin with... If they needed that goalie to play in a DA game, why didn't FCV just make her a FT? Why did they specifically designate her as a PT?

So spirit drops the affiliate name and just operates under a new one with new ID sessions this week, and there is going to be some miraculous turn around for next season? It looks as if gfr coaches are coaching the new 07 team according to their site and there has been no concrete talk of who these other sister clubs joining are. smaller rosters won’t matter if the quality of players is not there.

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There are multiple players that are on the original roster that played the year before for GFR. My DD friend plays on that team and she will definitely not be on there next year. If they struggled with attracting players as Spirit how again are they attracting players for the 06 team that has had multiple people quit and for the new 07 team as this new club with GFR running the operations. All these years and they could not produce one quality team so how is that management group going to operate a successful DA?

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Primary reason for player departures will not change with new name.

Some of the players who departed weren't as good as they thought. Others who left weren't ready for that level of play. I'd say these are valid reasons for people leaving any elite team, not just this one.

This is actually comical that you think they all left because they were not good enough. How about they left because they lost all of their games, the majority by 6+ goals. The majority of the 06 team is made up of players who cannot play at this level which is why they are losing so badly.

LOL. So they are good enough but cannot play at this level.

2 of them moved to other ECNL/DA teams that can actually compete so yes good enough to no longer want to play with whoever would pay that fee just to say their kid was DA/ECNL.

The same teams that crushed their old team? Who's spot did they take? What a great story and warning for us all.

That team needed a reset anyway, the player chemistry was obviously lacking. There's no need or benefit to make any distinctions between players who left or are leaving, some involuntarily and others voluntarily, and those who went/are going elsewhere on their own. There were no clear superstars on the team at any point and only a few who truly can't hack it at that level. It's for the best they get a fresh start with the players the staff feels are FT DA players, new blood, and worthy PT players if needed.

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Anonymous wrote:My concern is this part time player stuff. This doesn't seem right. Usually a team has a few and even that is suspect. I would not want to have the PT/FT DA practices together. It makes no sense. If you want a team to compete, they need to be tight and know how they each play. We had this on our team with a few and it was a disaster for all sides. Does not work.

Mine plays DA, and at this level you can play or you can't. You either play fast with your head up or get overwhelmed by the speed of the game.

The PT players come in and practice and get overwhelmed most of the time...but they get the opportunity to practice 1-2 times per week at the faster pace and better quality.

Every local DA has PT players. Arlington and FCV have second teams with PT players. MU will have multiple local options for second teams. PT is a good option for player who may not be quite ready yet for the level of play of DA but who are motivated to get better. If you check game reports on US soccer DA website all three teams have used PT players in recent games.

Can you provide that link for the game FCV used a PT player.

I'll wait right here

http://www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/ss/view_game_report.php?eventId=5383493&teamId=7441697

there's your freebie. do your own research next time.

Got me...found a single GK! I suppose if you count GK then FCV has used a couple. GK's are a harder commodity to hoard.

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Anonymous wrote:My concern is this part time player stuff. This doesn't seem right. Usually a team has a few and even that is suspect. I would not want to have the PT/FT DA practices together. It makes no sense. If you want a team to compete, they need to be tight and know how they each play. We had this on our team with a few and it was a disaster for all sides. Does not work.

Mine plays DA, and at this level you can play or you can't. You either play fast with your head up or get overwhelmed by the speed of the game.

The PT players come in and practice and get overwhelmed most of the time...but they get the opportunity to practice 1-2 times per week at the faster pace and better quality.

Every local DA has PT players. Arlington and FCV have second teams with PT players. MU will have multiple local options for second teams. PT is a good option for player who may not be quite ready yet for the level of play of DA but who are motivated to get better. If you check game reports on US soccer DA website all three teams have used PT players in recent games.

Can you provide that link for the game FCV used a PT player.

I'll wait right here

http://www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/ss/view_game_report.php?eventId=5383493&teamId=7441697

there's your freebie. do your own research next time.

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Anonymous wrote:My concern is this part time player stuff. This doesn't seem right. Usually a team has a few and even that is suspect. I would not want to have the PT/FT DA practices together. It makes no sense. If you want a team to compete, they need to be tight and know how they each play. We had this on our team with a few and it was a disaster for all sides. Does not work.

Mine plays DA, and at this level you can play or you can't. You either play fast with your head up or get overwhelmed by the speed of the game.

The PT players come in and practice and get overwhelmed most of the time...but they get the opportunity to practice 1-2 times per week at the faster pace and better quality.

Every local DA has PT players. Arlington and FCV have second teams with PT players. MU will have multiple local options for second teams. PT is a good option for player who may not be quite ready yet for the level of play of DA but who are motivated to get better. If you check game reports on US soccer DA website all three teams have used PT players in recent games.

While that us true, the probability of PT players getting into games will be greater if the DA rosters are limited to 16 or less as MU is supposedly doing. As soon as the base roster gets to 18 or beyond there is no room for PT players. At FCV PT's or DP's never play.

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Anonymous wrote:My concern is this part time player stuff. This doesn't seem right. Usually a team has a few and even that is suspect. I would not want to have the PT/FT DA practices together. It makes no sense. If you want a team to compete, they need to be tight and know how they each play. We had this on our team with a few and it was a disaster for all sides. Does not work.

Mine plays DA, and at this level you can play or you can't. You either play fast with your head up or get overwhelmed by the speed of the game.

The PT players come in and practice and get overwhelmed most of the time...but they get the opportunity to practice 1-2 times per week at the faster pace and better quality.

Every local DA has PT players. Arlington and FCV have second teams with PT players. MU will have multiple local options for second teams. PT is a good option for player who may not be quite ready yet for the level of play of DA but who are motivated to get better. If you check game reports on US soccer DA website all three teams have used PT players in recent games.

While that us true, the probability of PT players getting into games will be greater if the DA rosters are limited to 16 or less as MU is supposedly doing. As soon as the base roster gets to 18 or beyond there is no room for PT players. At FCV PT's or DP's never play.

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Anonymous wrote:My concern is this part time player stuff. This doesn't seem right. Usually a team has a few and even that is suspect. I would not want to have the PT/FT DA practices together. It makes no sense. If you want a team to compete, they need to be tight and know how they each play. We had this on our team with a few and it was a disaster for all sides. Does not work.

Mine plays DA, and at this level you can play or you can't. You either play fast with your head up or get overwhelmed by the speed of the game.

The PT players come in and practice and get overwhelmed most of the time...but they get the opportunity to practice 1-2 times per week at the faster pace and better quality.

Every local DA has PT players. Arlington and FCV have second teams with PT players. MU will have multiple local options for second teams. PT is a good option for player who may not be quite ready yet for the level of play of DA but who are motivated to get better. If you check game reports on US soccer DA website all three teams have used PT players in recent games.

Can you provide that link for the game FCV used a PT player.

I'll wait right here

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Anonymous wrote:My concern is this part time player stuff. This doesn't seem right. Usually a team has a few and even that is suspect. I would not want to have the PT/FT DA practices together. It makes no sense. If you want a team to compete, they need to be tight and know how they each play. We had this on our team with a few and it was a disaster for all sides. Does not work.

Mine plays DA, and at this level you can play or you can't. You either play fast with your head up or get overwhelmed by the speed of the game.

The PT players come in and practice and get overwhelmed most of the time...but they get the opportunity to practice 1-2 times per week at the faster pace and better quality.

Every local DA has PT players. Arlington and FCV have second teams with PT players. MU will have multiple local options for second teams. PT is a good option for player who may not be quite ready yet for the level of play of DA but who are motivated to get better. If you check game reports on US soccer DA website all three teams have used PT players in recent games.

Anonymous wrote:My concern is this part time player stuff. This doesn't seem right. Usually a team has a few and even that is suspect. I would not want to have the PT/FT DA practices together. It makes no sense. If you want a team to compete, they need to be tight and know how they each play. We had this on our team with a few and it was a disaster for all sides. Does not work.

Mine plays DA, and at this level you can play or you can't. You either play fast with your head up or get overwhelmed by the speed of the game.

The PT players come in and practice and get overwhelmed most of the time...but they get the opportunity to practice 1-2 times per week at the faster pace and better quality.

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There are multiple players that are on the original roster that played the year before for GFR. My DD friend plays on that team and she will definitely not be on there next year. If they struggled with attracting players as Spirit how again are they attracting players for the 06 team that has had multiple people quit and for the new 07 team as this new club with GFR running the operations. All these years and they could not produce one quality team so how is that management group going to operate a successful DA?

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Primary reason for player departures will not change with new name.

Some of the players who departed weren't as good as they thought. Others who left weren't ready for that level of play. I'd say these are valid reasons for people leaving any elite team, not just this one.

This is actually comical that you think they all left because they were not good enough. How about they left because they lost all of their games, the majority by 6+ goals. The majority of the 06 team is made up of players who cannot play at this level which is why they are losing so badly.

LOL. So they are good enough but cannot play at this level.

2 of them moved to other ECNL/DA teams that can actually compete so yes good enough to no longer want to play with whoever would pay that fee just to say their kid was DA/ECNL.

The same teams that crushed their old team? Who's spot did they take? What a great story and warning for us all.

Anonymous wrote:My concern is this part time player stuff. This doesn't seem right. Usually a team has a few and even that is suspect. I would not want to have the PT/FT DA practices together. It makes no sense. If you want a team to compete, they need to be tight and know how they each play. We had this on our team with a few and it was a disaster for all sides. Does not work.

There are kids who are close and not ready. There are kids who are ready but not sure. Frankly, it is just an option. Ideally it isn't offered to many but it may be offered more to playups who show promise etc..

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There are multiple players that are on the original roster that played the year before for GFR. My DD friend plays on that team and she will definitely not be on there next year. If they struggled with attracting players as Spirit how again are they attracting players for the 06 team that has had multiple people quit and for the new 07 team as this new club with GFR running the operations. All these years and they could not produce one quality team so how is that management group going to operate a successful DA?

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Primary reason for player departures will not change with new name.

Some of the players who departed weren't as good as they thought. Others who left weren't ready for that level of play. I'd say these are valid reasons for people leaving any elite team, not just this one.

This is actually comical that you think they all left because they were not good enough. How about they left because they lost all of their games, the majority by 6+ goals. The majority of the 06 team is made up of players who cannot play at this level which is why they are losing so badly.

LOL. So they are good enough but cannot play at this level.

2 of them moved to other ECNL/DA teams that can actually compete so yes good enough to no longer want to play with whoever would pay that fee just to say their kid was DA/ECNL.

Why would you assume that some of those who chose to stay couldn’t have left? Just because the team as a whole wasn’t as competitive with Arlington and FCV, doesn’t mean that ALL of the players other than your two weren’t at the level of these two you refer to.

Sounds like the team lost some pretty crappy parents though, which is a net plus going forward!

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There are multiple players that are on the original roster that played the year before for GFR. My DD friend plays on that team and she will definitely not be on there next year. If they struggled with attracting players as Spirit how again are they attracting players for the 06 team that has had multiple people quit and for the new 07 team as this new club with GFR running the operations. All these years and they could not produce one quality team so how is that management group going to operate a successful DA?

+1
Primary reason for player departures will not change with new name.

Some of the players who departed weren't as good as they thought. Others who left weren't ready for that level of play. I'd say these are valid reasons for people leaving any elite team, not just this one.

This is actually comical that you think they all left because they were not good enough. How about they left because they lost all of their games, the majority by 6+ goals. The majority of the 06 team is made up of players who cannot play at this level which is why they are losing so badly.

LOL. So they are good enough but cannot play at this level.

2 of them moved to other ECNL/DA teams that can actually compete so yes good enough to no longer want to play with whoever would pay that fee just to say their kid was DA/ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:My concern is this part time player stuff. This doesn't seem right. Usually a team has a few and even that is suspect. I would not want to have the PT/FT DA practices together. It makes no sense. If you want a team to compete, they need to be tight and know how they each play. We had this on our team with a few and it was a disaster for all sides. Does not work.

Does not sounds like DA or ECNL is for you. They all do this and is the point of PT or DP status.

PT players can only play in 12 matches, I believe there are like 36 total, it won't be that the PT player will play in every day game. It also doesn't guarantee 12 games. I believe the practices and games would likely be more to see if they player has progressed and/or is ready to move up to FT. A FT player will not sit so that a PT player can get a game. They will also be used in the even of injury, or if multiple FT's can't make a game for some reason.