Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 09:44     Subject: Re:Similarities between trump and hitler

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“The President said very strongly in his statement yesterday that he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry, and hatred,” the statement said. “Of course that includes white supremacists, KKK Neo-Nazi and all extremist groups. He called for national unity and bringing all Americans together.”

Also from a Zeke Miller article.


Which Charlottesville speech was that? The first one? The second? The third? Was it the one that David Duke gushed over?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politics/donald-trump-david-duke-charlottesville/index.html


David Duke and Farrakhan are the people the FBI should have been focusing on instead of the President for two g-d years.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 09:43     Subject: Re:Similarities between trump and hitler

Here's an article from Politico staff on 8/15/17

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/15/full-text-trump-comments-white-supremacists-alt-left-transcript-241662

You read into it through your filter and I read it using mine. Further, as friends sat around with concerns for Israel, Trump was there supporting the country against the threats being made against its existence.

Do you think Hitler would do that? Really?

People are pouring into the country and our generous local governments are oversaturated. It is a horrible situation for all.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 09:38     Subject: Re:Similarities between trump and hitler

Anonymous wrote:“The President said very strongly in his statement yesterday that he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry, and hatred,” the statement said. “Of course that includes white supremacists, KKK Neo-Nazi and all extremist groups. He called for national unity and bringing all Americans together.”

Also from a Zeke Miller article.


Which Charlottesville speech was that? The first one? The second? The third? Was it the one that David Duke gushed over?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politics/donald-trump-david-duke-charlottesville/index.html
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 09:35     Subject: Similarities between trump and hitler

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20180714/comparing-trump-to-hitler-is-disgrace

"No matter how much you may dislike or disagree with Trump, the warped practice of casually comparing him and other U.S. officials to the ruthless, merciless ghouls who executed 6 million souls and tortured and persecuted countless more simply for being Jewish or something else they despised is a disgrace and demonstrates massive, willful historical ignorance."


I know it’s very difficult for a lot of Trump supporters on here to try to think outside the box and consider some of the posts comparing trump to Hitler. However, please try and do so. Consider trumps nationalist rhetoric and how similar it was to Hitler’s rhetoric while he was consolidating power in Germany. Consider trumps repeated denigration of Mexicans. Consider how he panders to a radical, and yes, racist part of his base as evidenced by saying “there are very fine people on both sides.” I’m specifically said that because he knows his supporters who like Confederate statues and yes some of them are white nationalists, would appreciate that type of message. That message wasn’t just in support of people who want to keep their southern heritage alive by keeping the statues in place, but it was also a shout out, a dog whistle to people who hold these racial notions of white purity and things of that nature.
Trump specifically said that because he knows his supporters who like Confederate statues and yes some of them are white nationalists, would appreciate that type of message. That message wasn’t just in support of people who want to keep their southern heritage alive by keeping the statues in place, but it was also a shout out, a dog whistle to people who hold these racial notions of white purity and things of that nature.
Stop trying to tell us that we can’t make comparisons to Hitler. The comparisons are there. The demographics of this country are shifting and a lot of older white people are scared of that. The browning of America is very alarming to a lot of people. Additionally a lot of people don’t like change, whether it’s automation taking their jobs, or solar wind or other technology overtaking Cole, trump panders to these people but does so in a way that is very similar to Hitler. He holds the same types of rallies to rile people up. He only focuses on his supporters he is not a uniter. He’s a divider just like Hitler. Can you see that?


• President Donald Trump told reporters: "We are closely following the terrible events unfolding in Charlottesville, Virginia. We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides. It has been going on for a long time in our country -- not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. It has been going on for a long, long time. It has no place in America."

This is what was actually said.

People need to push the narrative he's xenophobic in order to advance their own. Look on any social media site for Trump supporters of every color, religion, sexual and gender preference under the sun.

I am pro-choice and those people have been praying outside clinics on public property since I can remember. Just like that guy who stood outside the Vatican Embassy and peacefully protested for years.

What concerns me is people's ability to suspend their own eyes and ears to help push a fake narrative. For goodness sake, John Podesta said to use the Nazi narrative in his e-mails that were hacked. We know it is a just another political ploy to make people fear their government because you lost an election when your candidate couldn't get herself to a few states.


That’s some top shelf historical revisionism there. What actually happened is Trump waffled back and forth over the course of a week on the issue. He had to gauge how his supporters would feel if he actually condemned these confederate supporting white supremacists. He literally vacillated back and forth on the entire situation. He did not show a determined and force for condemnation of the actions at the time they happened. He said there are very fine people on both sides. He was trying to play both sides of the equation because he knew he couldn’t alienate his supporters. The Republican Party has become the party of Trump. And that party strongly associated with xenophobia and fear of others. Sadly it also comprises a large portion of ignorant folks who miss the great days is when the south and and everything that goes along with that was in power.

I know it’s very hard for you people supporting Trump to look inwardly at yourselves and what the party supports but it’s very very alarming. It’s so fear-based.


You mean he clarified his statement within 48 hours. Gimme a minute...I'll find the reports scrum notes.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 09:34     Subject: Re:Similarities between trump and hitler

“The President said very strongly in his statement yesterday that he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry, and hatred,” the statement said. “Of course that includes white supremacists, KKK Neo-Nazi and all extremist groups. He called for national unity and bringing all Americans together.”

Also from a Zeke Miller article.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 09:33     Subject: Similarities between trump and hitler

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20180714/comparing-trump-to-hitler-is-disgrace

"No matter how much you may dislike or disagree with Trump, the warped practice of casually comparing him and other U.S. officials to the ruthless, merciless ghouls who executed 6 million souls and tortured and persecuted countless more simply for being Jewish or something else they despised is a disgrace and demonstrates massive, willful historical ignorance."


I know it’s very difficult for a lot of Trump supporters on here to try to think outside the box and consider some of the posts comparing trump to Hitler. However, please try and do so. Consider trumps nationalist rhetoric and how similar it was to Hitler’s rhetoric while he was consolidating power in Germany. Consider trumps repeated denigration of Mexicans. Consider how he panders to a radical, and yes, racist part of his base as evidenced by saying “there are very fine people on both sides.” I’m specifically said that because he knows his supporters who like Confederate statues and yes some of them are white nationalists, would appreciate that type of message. That message wasn’t just in support of people who want to keep their southern heritage alive by keeping the statues in place, but it was also a shout out, a dog whistle to people who hold these racial notions of white purity and things of that nature.
Trump specifically said that because he knows his supporters who like Confederate statues and yes some of them are white nationalists, would appreciate that type of message. That message wasn’t just in support of people who want to keep their southern heritage alive by keeping the statues in place, but it was also a shout out, a dog whistle to people who hold these racial notions of white purity and things of that nature.
Stop trying to tell us that we can’t make comparisons to Hitler. The comparisons are there. The demographics of this country are shifting and a lot of older white people are scared of that. The browning of America is very alarming to a lot of people. Additionally a lot of people don’t like change, whether it’s automation taking their jobs, or solar wind or other technology overtaking Cole, trump panders to these people but does so in a way that is very similar to Hitler. He holds the same types of rallies to rile people up. He only focuses on his supporters he is not a uniter. He’s a divider just like Hitler. Can you see that?


• President Donald Trump told reporters: "We are closely following the terrible events unfolding in Charlottesville, Virginia. We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides. It has been going on for a long time in our country -- not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. It has been going on for a long, long time. It has no place in America."

This is what was actually said.

People need to push the narrative he's xenophobic in order to advance their own. Look on any social media site for Trump supporters of every color, religion, sexual and gender preference under the sun.

I am pro-choice and those people have been praying outside clinics on public property since I can remember. Just like that guy who stood outside the Vatican Embassy and peacefully protested for years.

What concerns me is people's ability to suspend their own eyes and ears to help push a fake narrative. For goodness sake, John Podesta said to use the Nazi narrative in his e-mails that were hacked. We know it is a just another political ploy to make people fear their government because you lost an election when your candidate couldn't get herself to a few states.


That’s some top shelf historical revisionism there. What actually happened is Trump waffled back and forth over the course of a week on the issue. He had to gauge how his supporters would feel if he actually condemned these confederate supporting white supremacists. He literally vacillated back and forth on the entire situation. He did not show a determined and force for condemnation of the actions at the time they happened. He said there are very fine people on both sides. He was trying to play both sides of the equation because he knew he couldn’t alienate his supporters. The Republican Party has become the party of Trump. And that party strongly associated with xenophobia and fear of others. Sadly it also comprises a large portion of ignorant folks who miss the great days is when the south and and everything that goes along with that was in power.

I know it’s very hard for you people supporting Trump to look inwardly at yourselves and what the party supports but it’s very very alarming. It’s so fear-based.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 09:32     Subject: Re:Similarities between trump and hitler

“Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups,” Trump said.

- Zeke Miller
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 09:28     Subject: Similarities between trump and hitler

PP here. The quote is attributed to Chris Cillizza and CNN.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 09:27     Subject: Similarities between trump and hitler

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20180714/comparing-trump-to-hitler-is-disgrace

"No matter how much you may dislike or disagree with Trump, the warped practice of casually comparing him and other U.S. officials to the ruthless, merciless ghouls who executed 6 million souls and tortured and persecuted countless more simply for being Jewish or something else they despised is a disgrace and demonstrates massive, willful historical ignorance."


I know it’s very difficult for a lot of Trump supporters on here to try to think outside the box and consider some of the posts comparing trump to Hitler. However, please try and do so. Consider trumps nationalist rhetoric and how similar it was to Hitler’s rhetoric while he was consolidating power in Germany. Consider trumps repeated denigration of Mexicans. Consider how he panders to a radical, and yes, racist part of his base as evidenced by saying “there are very fine people on both sides.” I’m specifically said that because he knows his supporters who like Confederate statues and yes some of them are white nationalists, would appreciate that type of message. That message wasn’t just in support of people who want to keep their southern heritage alive by keeping the statues in place, but it was also a shout out, a dog whistle to people who hold these racial notions of white purity and things of that nature.
Trump specifically said that because he knows his supporters who like Confederate statues and yes some of them are white nationalists, would appreciate that type of message. That message wasn’t just in support of people who want to keep their southern heritage alive by keeping the statues in place, but it was also a shout out, a dog whistle to people who hold these racial notions of white purity and things of that nature.
Stop trying to tell us that we can’t make comparisons to Hitler. The comparisons are there. The demographics of this country are shifting and a lot of older white people are scared of that. The browning of America is very alarming to a lot of people. Additionally a lot of people don’t like change, whether it’s automation taking their jobs, or solar wind or other technology overtaking Cole, trump panders to these people but does so in a way that is very similar to Hitler. He holds the same types of rallies to rile people up. He only focuses on his supporters he is not a uniter. He’s a divider just like Hitler. Can you see that?


• President Donald Trump told reporters: "We are closely following the terrible events unfolding in Charlottesville, Virginia. We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides. It has been going on for a long time in our country -- not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. It has been going on for a long, long time. It has no place in America."

This is what was actually said.

People need to push the narrative he's xenophobic in order to advance their own. Look on any social media site for Trump supporters of every color, religion, sexual and gender preference under the sun.

I am pro-choice and those people have been praying outside clinics on public property since I can remember. Just like that guy who stood outside the Vatican Embassy and peacefully protested for years.

What concerns me is people's ability to suspend their own eyes and ears to help push a fake narrative. For goodness sake, John Podesta said to use the Nazi narrative in his e-mails that were hacked. We know it is a just another political ploy to make people fear their government because you lost an election when your candidate couldn't get herself to a few states.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 09:10     Subject: Re:Similarities between trump and hitler

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“As a historian specializing in the Holocaust, Nazi Germany, and Europe in the era of the world wars, I have been repeatedly asked about the degree to which the current situation in the United States resembles the interwar period and the rise of fascism in Europe. I would note several troubling similarities and one important but equally troubling difference.”

“Today, President Trump seems intent on withdrawing the US from the entire post–World War II structure of interlocking diplomatic, military, and economic agreements and organizations that have preserved peace, stability, and prosperity since 1945. His preference for bilateral relations, conceived as zero-sum rivalries in which he is the dominant player and “wins,” overlaps with the ideological preference of Steve Bannon and the so-called alt-right for the unfettered self-assertion of autonomous, xenophobic nation-states—in short, the pre-1914 international system. That “international anarchy” produced World War I, the Bolshevik Revolution, the Great Depression, the fascist dictatorships, World War II, and the Holocaust, precisely the sort of disasters that the post–World War II international system has for seven decades remarkably avoided.”

“If the US has someone whom historians will look back on as the gravedigger of American democracy, it is Mitch McConnell. He stoked the hyperpolarization of American politics to make the Obama presidency as dysfunctional and paralyzed as he possibly could. As with parliamentary gridlock in Weimar, congressional gridlock in the US has diminished respect for democratic norms, allowing McConnell to trample them even more. Nowhere is this vicious circle clearer than in the obliteration of traditional precedents concerning judicial appointments. ”

“Alongside the erosion of an independent judiciary as a check on executive power, other hallmarks of illiberal democracy are the neutralization of a free press and the steady diminution of basic human rights.”

Written by Holocaust historian

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/10/25/suffocation-of-democracy/



^^ I thought this was a great esssy by a Holocaust historian - he points out similarities and differences with a lot of supporting facts. Please read if you haven’t already.


Trump supporters would rather show indignation over the obvious than to actually read and learn.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 09:09     Subject: Re:Similarities between trump and hitler

Anonymous wrote:“As a historian specializing in the Holocaust, Nazi Germany, and Europe in the era of the world wars, I have been repeatedly asked about the degree to which the current situation in the United States resembles the interwar period and the rise of fascism in Europe. I would note several troubling similarities and one important but equally troubling difference.”

“Today, President Trump seems intent on withdrawing the US from the entire post–World War II structure of interlocking diplomatic, military, and economic agreements and organizations that have preserved peace, stability, and prosperity since 1945. His preference for bilateral relations, conceived as zero-sum rivalries in which he is the dominant player and “wins,” overlaps with the ideological preference of Steve Bannon and the so-called alt-right for the unfettered self-assertion of autonomous, xenophobic nation-states—in short, the pre-1914 international system. That “international anarchy” produced World War I, the Bolshevik Revolution, the Great Depression, the fascist dictatorships, World War II, and the Holocaust, precisely the sort of disasters that the post–World War II international system has for seven decades remarkably avoided.”

“If the US has someone whom historians will look back on as the gravedigger of American democracy, it is Mitch McConnell. He stoked the hyperpolarization of American politics to make the Obama presidency as dysfunctional and paralyzed as he possibly could. As with parliamentary gridlock in Weimar, congressional gridlock in the US has diminished respect for democratic norms, allowing McConnell to trample them even more. Nowhere is this vicious circle clearer than in the obliteration of traditional precedents concerning judicial appointments. ”

“Alongside the erosion of an independent judiciary as a check on executive power, other hallmarks of illiberal democracy are the neutralization of a free press and the steady diminution of basic human rights.”

Written by Holocaust historian

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/10/25/suffocation-of-democracy/



^^ I thought this was a great esssy by a Holocaust historian - he points out similarities and differences with a lot of supporting facts. Please read if you haven’t already.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 09:03     Subject: Re:Similarities between trump and hitler

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is an absolutely insulting and disgusting thread and should be deleted.


We all wish it weren't true, but sadly it is, and the comparison is justified. You're thinking about gas chambers and killing 6 million Jews. We haven't come to that, and probably won't, but Nazi propaganda started in exactly the same way the Trump administration is talking about Mexicans, Muslims, and other groups today. We are talking about a similar direction, and that in itself is dangerous.




I’ll be sure to let the folks who still bear Nazi tattoos that you feel their suffering is being used to trash someone you don’t like


I can’t believe this thread hasn’t been deleted. Actually, I can believe it. Unreal.

I agree with you.


It is shocking that this thread is still up. Beyond. Horrible. Rest in peace to the victims of the holocaust, there are many who will not let your memory and your suffering be forgotten or trivialized by sickos who want to reduce your hellish pain and torture to nothing...who want to use it as a cynical political tactic to scare the uneducated and ignorant. Shame on the OP.



That is the most over wrought righteous indignation I think I’ve seen on this thread. There are completely valid comparisons between trump and hitler. Stop trying to tell us we can’t talk about it.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 08:59     Subject: Similarities between trump and hitler

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20180714/comparing-trump-to-hitler-is-disgrace

"No matter how much you may dislike or disagree with Trump, the warped practice of casually comparing him and other U.S. officials to the ruthless, merciless ghouls who executed 6 million souls and tortured and persecuted countless more simply for being Jewish or something else they despised is a disgrace and demonstrates massive, willful historical ignorance."


I know it’s very difficult for a lot of Trump supporters on here to try to think outside the box and consider some of the posts comparing trump to Hitler. However, please try and do so. Consider trumps nationalist rhetoric and how similar it was to Hitler’s rhetoric while he was consolidating power in Germany. Consider trumps repeated denigration of Mexicans. Consider how he panders to a radical, and yes, racist part of his base as evidenced by saying “there are very fine people on both sides.” I’m specifically said that because he knows his supporters who like Confederate statues and yes some of them are white nationalists, would appreciate that type of message. That message wasn’t just in support of people who want to keep their southern heritage alive by keeping the statues in place, but it was also a shout out, a dog whistle to people who hold these racial notions of white purity and things of that nature.
Trump specifically said that because he knows his supporters who like Confederate statues and yes some of them are white nationalists, would appreciate that type of message. That message wasn’t just in support of people who want to keep their southern heritage alive by keeping the statues in place, but it was also a shout out, a dog whistle to people who hold these racial notions of white purity and things of that nature.
Stop trying to tell us that we can’t make comparisons to Hitler. The comparisons are there. The demographics of this country are shifting and a lot of older white people are scared of that. The browning of America is very alarming to a lot of people. Additionally a lot of people don’t like change, whether it’s automation taking their jobs, or solar wind or other technology overtaking Cole, trump panders to these people but does so in a way that is very similar to Hitler. He holds the same types of rallies to rile people up. He only focuses on his supporters he is not a uniter. He’s a divider just like Hitler. Can you see that?

Then why were Democrats so unwilling to put forward a resolution condemning anti-Semitism? If they were really concerned about a Hitler taking over, they didn't help matters by refusing to condemn the demonization of Jews.


Because you are conflating two different things. Democrats are against anti-Semitism. But they are also against the Hitler type of person who is in control right now and doing Hitler type things. Trump is a figure right now who has very similar tendencies and actions to trump.

Also, a lot of Democrats understand the delineation between criticism of Israel’s government for its treatment of Palestinians which is not anti-Semitism. You can be pro Israel and pro Jewish, but also be very alarmed at how Israel’s government continues to take Palestinian land, hold Palestinians in ghettos that are walled off, have totally prevented a two state solution and generally act belligerently to a subservient population.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 08:55     Subject: Similarities between trump and hitler

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20180714/comparing-trump-to-hitler-is-disgrace

"No matter how much you may dislike or disagree with Trump, the warped practice of casually comparing him and other U.S. officials to the ruthless, merciless ghouls who executed 6 million souls and tortured and persecuted countless more simply for being Jewish or something else they despised is a disgrace and demonstrates massive, willful historical ignorance."


I know it’s very difficult for a lot of Trump supporters on here to try to think outside the box and consider some of the posts comparing trump to Hitler. However, please try and do so. Consider trumps nationalist rhetoric and how similar it was to Hitler’s rhetoric while he was consolidating power in Germany. Consider trumps repeated denigration of Mexicans. Consider how he panders to a radical, and yes, racist part of his base as evidenced by saying “there are very fine people on both sides.” I’m specifically said that because he knows his supporters who like Confederate statues and yes some of them are white nationalists, would appreciate that type of message. That message wasn’t just in support of people who want to keep their southern heritage alive by keeping the statues in place, but it was also a shout out, a dog whistle to people who hold these racial notions of white purity and things of that nature.
Trump specifically said that because he knows his supporters who like Confederate statues and yes some of them are white nationalists, would appreciate that type of message. That message wasn’t just in support of people who want to keep their southern heritage alive by keeping the statues in place, but it was also a shout out, a dog whistle to people who hold these racial notions of white purity and things of that nature.
Stop trying to tell us that we can’t make comparisons to Hitler. The comparisons are there. The demographics of this country are shifting and a lot of older white people are scared of that. The browning of America is very alarming to a lot of people. Additionally a lot of people don’t like change, whether it’s automation taking their jobs, or solar wind or other technology overtaking Cole, trump panders to these people but does so in a way that is very similar to Hitler. He holds the same types of rallies to rile people up. He only focuses on his supporters he is not a uniter. He’s a divider just like Hitler. Can you see that?


Sorry, I was voice dictating and it double posted.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 08:53     Subject: Similarities between trump and hitler

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20180714/comparing-trump-to-hitler-is-disgrace

"No matter how much you may dislike or disagree with Trump, the warped practice of casually comparing him and other U.S. officials to the ruthless, merciless ghouls who executed 6 million souls and tortured and persecuted countless more simply for being Jewish or something else they despised is a disgrace and demonstrates massive, willful historical ignorance."


I know it’s very difficult for a lot of Trump supporters on here to try to think outside the box and consider some of the posts comparing trump to Hitler. However, please try and do so. Consider trumps nationalist rhetoric and how similar it was to Hitler’s rhetoric while he was consolidating power in Germany. Consider trumps repeated denigration of Mexicans. Consider how he panders to a radical, and yes, racist part of his base as evidenced by saying “there are very fine people on both sides.” I’m specifically said that because he knows his supporters who like Confederate statues and yes some of them are white nationalists, would appreciate that type of message. That message wasn’t just in support of people who want to keep their southern heritage alive by keeping the statues in place, but it was also a shout out, a dog whistle to people who hold these racial notions of white purity and things of that nature.
Trump specifically said that because he knows his supporters who like Confederate statues and yes some of them are white nationalists, would appreciate that type of message. That message wasn’t just in support of people who want to keep their southern heritage alive by keeping the statues in place, but it was also a shout out, a dog whistle to people who hold these racial notions of white purity and things of that nature.
Stop trying to tell us that we can’t make comparisons to Hitler. The comparisons are there. The demographics of this country are shifting and a lot of older white people are scared of that. The browning of America is very alarming to a lot of people. Additionally a lot of people don’t like change, whether it’s automation taking their jobs, or solar wind or other technology overtaking Cole, trump panders to these people but does so in a way that is very similar to Hitler. He holds the same types of rallies to rile people up. He only focuses on his supporters he is not a uniter. He’s a divider just like Hitler. Can you see that?

Then why were Democrats so unwilling to put forward a resolution condemning anti-Semitism? If they were really concerned about a Hitler taking over, they didn't help matters by refusing to condemn the demonization of Jews.