Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:25
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is tragic, but the French will restore it. That's one thing they do well, invest in the arts/culture and its preservation. It will take a long time, but it will happen. We don't do that and let our monuments go to pot: i.e. the Tidal Basin and the Jefferson Memorial. It's sinking.
Actually it’s Americans who have been funding the restoration of Norte Dame. You have misinformation. It is not in French culture to do fundraisers, etc to restore stuff like they do in the US. And the French government isn’t willing to pay for even half. I am French married to an American, I’m not just making this up.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/paris-crumbling-notre-dame-cathedral-hopes-wealthy-americans-will-help-save-it/
+1. The news reports indicate that money coming in for the restoration was very slow, and they were very worried about the safety of the building for the future.
Well now this makes me think it was an inside job. Kind of like insurance Fraud. What better way to get the world to pony up than to burn it down.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:25
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
They’ve reported the main structure and two towers can be saved.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:24
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is tragic, but the French will restore it. That's one thing they do well, invest in the arts/culture and its preservation. It will take a long time, but it will happen. We don't do that and let our monuments go to pot: i.e. the Tidal Basin and the Jefferson Memorial. It's sinking.
Actually it’s Americans who have been funding the restoration of Norte Dame. You have misinformation. It is not in French culture to do fundraisers, etc to restore stuff like they do in the US. And the French government isn’t willing to pay for even half. I am French married to an American, I’m not just making this up.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/paris-crumbling-notre-dame-cathedral-hopes-wealthy-americans-will-help-save-it/
+1. The news reports indicate that money coming in for the restoration was very slow, and they were very worried about the safety of the building for the future.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:23
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's terrible- it was such a magnificent cathedral that won't be able to be replicated.
Of course it can. We haven’t lost the knowledge. It’s stone and wood and glass. It won’t be likely due to cost.
It can't be replicated, and neither can the lost art.
+1. We don't have the craftsmen anymore either.
We can. Google Dresden Cathedral. You will see the remains at then end of WWII and the new church. Believe!
+1
You can say that again.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:22
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can't stop crying about this. What a loss.
And here's the entire irrationality spectrum. On one side, we have the "it's not a tragedy" pedants. On the other, the people who can't stop crying.
Mental health lies somewhere in between.
This. It’s terrible that so much history is lost but thankfully it seems no lives were lost, it was not done intentionally, and it does not affect me personally at all.
This, to me, is a huge problem everywhere. “If it doesn’t affect me personally, it isn’t really important.”
It isn’t important to my life. That’s just a fact. I won’t cry or lose sleep over it but I can understand the significant loss to others.
DP. No one has said it isn't important AT ALL (only personally). It seems they are discussing the spectrum from sad loss>tragedy. But on the flip side, devil's advocate, just because someone views it as important to them doesn't mean it need be important to everybody. Or more precisely, have the same effect on everyone.
I have been to Notre Dame, it is an important part of my personal and familial history. I am so sad to see it go. But I still can't view it as tragic.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:20
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's terrible- it was such a magnificent cathedral that won't be able to be replicated.
Of course it can. We haven’t lost the knowledge. It’s stone and wood and glass. It won’t be likely due to cost.
It can't be replicated, and neither can the lost art.
+1. We don't have the craftsmen anymore either.
+1
You can say that again.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:17
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can't stop crying about this. What a loss.
And here's the entire irrationality spectrum. On one side, we have the "it's not a tragedy" pedants. On the other, the people who can't stop crying.
Mental health lies somewhere in between.
This. It’s terrible that so much history is lost but thankfully it seems no lives were lost, it was not done intentionally, and it does not affect me personally at all.
This, to me, is a huge problem everywhere. “If it doesn’t affect me personally, it isn’t really important.”
It isn’t important to my life. That’s just a fact. I won’t cry or lose sleep over it but I can understand the significant loss to others.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:16
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can't stop crying about this. What a loss.
And here's the entire irrationality spectrum. On one side, we have the "it's not a tragedy" pedants. On the other, the people who can't stop crying.
Mental health lies somewhere in between.
This. It’s terrible that so much history is lost but thankfully it seems no lives were lost, it was not done intentionally, and it does not affect me personally at all.
This, to me, is a huge problem everywhere. “If it doesn’t affect me personally, it isn’t really important.”
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:15
Subject: Re:Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
You do know that the entire roof has collapsed, the towers are in jeopardy (as in the bells may fall to the ground and pull the towers with them) and the entire inside is gone. I mean, you know that right?
Paris police saying main structure has been saved, according to NBC.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:12
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
Anonymous wrote:Any indication of terrorism - I just heard
No.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:11
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
Any indication of terrorism - I just heard
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:10
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can't stop crying about this. What a loss.
And here's the entire irrationality spectrum. On one side, we have the "it's not a tragedy" pedants. On the other, the people who can't stop crying.
Mental health lies somewhere in between.
This. It’s terrible that so much history is lost but thankfully it seems no lives were lost, it was not done intentionally, and it does not affect me personally at all.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:08
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:BTW to the historically ignorant, it isn't a secret that one of the reasons the French capitulated to the Nazis was to save Paris. Open a history book for crying out loud. And yes, they capitulated and shipped off their Jews. ANd yes, there was a resistance but that wasn't the formal government.
Just like it isn't a secret (althout not taught in the US) that the US firebombed Dresden (destroying similar cathedrals, etc and killing hundreds of thousands) for no military reason whatsoever--just to destroy the city and morale.
War sucks.
That's actually a military reason.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:07
Subject: Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
Anonymous wrote:I can't stop crying about this. What a loss.
And here's the entire irrationality spectrum. On one side, we have the "it's not a tragedy" pedants. On the other, the people who can't stop crying.
Mental health lies somewhere in between.
Anonymous
04/15/2019 17:04
Subject: Re:Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.
The massive crowds in the streets are singing hymns while the firefighters try to save what is left. The videos of the singing are touching.