I forgot add that the county is not segregating by race. If you go to the statisticatlas links above for Howard County, take a look at the distribution of race across the county. You'll see that the races tend to distribute themselves in groups around the county. Caucasians are much more likely to buy in the western part of the county and the minorities have bigger clusters in different parts of the county.

HCPSS revisits the zoning for schools every 2 years. They prioritize trying to move groups from oversubscribed schools to under-subscribed schools trying to get each school as close to 100% optimal capacity. And they move neighborhoods, not races. If you want to see some of the proposed adjustments, take a look at this individuals web-site. Look at the original proposed map (the one in all green) and compare it with the demographic charts on statisticatlas. You'll see that adjusting for each school to be evenly populated concentrates various races in some schools just because of where they live..

http://jessuphs.tacobird.com/opinion.html

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Anonymous wrote:

You can find a very nice apartment in SE for less than half a million, so please drop the BS.

If you care, move.

If you don't care, shut up.

That's a lot of money.

That's a lot of BS.

First, those of you bickering about DC public schools should move that discussion to the DC schools forum. Your discussion has nothing to do with Howard County or the topic of this thread.

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Yep, but I am not surprised.
HoCo is one of the areas that people who wished for a MoCo of 1970's move to.

Some of you are looking at the current snapshot as if it were fixed in stone. In reality, Howard County has traditionally been a very white county, but it has been evolving over time. It is following Montgomery County by about 10 years based on the statistics. So Hoco in 2018 is like Moco in 2010, Hoco in 2010 is like Moco in 2000, and so on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_County,_Maryland#Demographics
In the 2000 Census the demographics were:
247,842 people, 90,043 households, and 65,821 families residing in the county
74.33% White, 14.42% Black, 0.24% Native American, 7.68% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 1.11% from other races, and 2.19% from two or more races. 3.02% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

In the 2010 Census the demographics were:
287,085 people, 104,749 households, and 76,333 families residing in the county (16% population increase)
62.2% white, 17.5% black or African American, 14.4% Asian, 0.3% American Indian, 2.0% from other races, and 3.6% from two or more races. Those of Hispanic or Latino origin made up 5.8% of the population.

With the increased population, the Black demographic rose 3.08%, the Asian demographic rose 6.72% and the Hispanic/Latino demographic rose 2.78%

https://statisticalatlas.com/county/Maryland/Howard-County/Race-and-Ethnicity
As of September 2018, the demographics were:
308,447 people, 109,872 households
55.3% white, 18.3% black of African American, 16.7% Asian, 3.2% Mixed, 6.0% Hispanic.

In 8 years, the population has increased another 7.4%. The black demographic rose 0.8%, the Asian demographic rose 2.3% and the Hispanic demographic rose 0.2%

Over the course of 18 years, the white population has decreased from 74.33% to 55.3% or 19%.

https://planning.maryland.gov/MSDC/Documents/Census/historical_census/sf1_80-00/mont80-00.pdf
Conversely in 1980, Montgomery County was 85.6% white, 8.8% Black or African American, 3.9% Asian and 3.9% Hispanic or Latino.
The population was 579,053 people, 207,195 households.

2000 Census, Montgomery County
873,058 people, 324,565 households
65.0% white, 15.1% black or African American, 11.3% Asian, 0.3% American Indian, 0.1% Pacific islander, 5.0% from other races, and 3.5% from two or more races. Those of Hispanic or Latino origin made up 11.5% of the population.

2010 Census, Montgomery County
971,777 people, 357,086 households, and 244,898 families residing in the county
7.5% white, 17.2% black or African American, 13.9% Asian, 0.4% American Indian, 0.1% Pacific islander, 7.0% from other races, and 4.0% from two or more races. Those of Hispanic or Latino origin made up 17.0% of the population.

https://statisticalatlas.com/county/Maryland/Montgomery-County/Race-and-Ethnicity
1,026,371 people, 367,764 households
45.9% white, 17.8% Black or African American, 14.6% Asian, 3.1% Mixed and 18% Hispanic or Latino.

Anonymous wrote:This is true. My children’s ‘blue ribbon’ school in Hoco has white, Indian or Chinese kids for the most part. There is a handful of black and Latino children.

And I must admit I get uncomfortable seeing the lack of real diversity whenever I go there to volunteer. I was educated in a diverse school myself.

Anonymous wrote:This is true. My children’s ‘blue ribbon’ school in Hoco has white, Indian or Chinese kids for the most part. There is a handful of black and Latino children.

My children's blue ribbon school is majority minority but the neighborhood home values are sky high.

Rich people will ensure their kids get into the best schools.

This is true. My children’s ‘blue ribbon’ school in Hoco has white, Indian or Chinese kids for the most part. There is a handful of black and Latino children.

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Apparently you haven't read or watched a local news report on the state of DC public schools, including in SE in just as long.

Brent Elementary School, for example? 8 out of 10 on GreatSchools. So is Watkins Elementary School. Both in Southeast.

Neither of these are across the river in the real SE.

Using schools in neighborhoods where lobbyists, Congressional staffers, etc live doesn't really prove your point.

This is Brent Elementary School's address: 301 North Carolina Ave SE, Washington, DC 20003

This is not Brent Elementary School's address: 301 North Carolina Ave not-the-real-SE, Washington, DC 20003

oh okay.

So just try moving the lobbyists kids across the river to one of the its-all-SE-DC-schools-anyway-there-is-no-difference schools and see how fast you will be having the same conversation there is happening right here. Rich people will always make sure their kids have the best. You are doing your argument no favors by lumping in rich and poor of SE and trying to pretend there isn't a difference.

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Apparently you haven't read or watched a local news report on the state of DC public schools, including in SE in just as long.

Brent Elementary School, for example? 8 out of 10 on GreatSchools. So is Watkins Elementary School. Both in Southeast.

Neither of these are across the river in the real SE.

Using schools in neighborhoods where lobbyists, Congressional staffers, etc live doesn't really prove your point.

This is Brent Elementary School's address: 301 North Carolina Ave SE, Washington, DC 20003

This is not Brent Elementary School's address: 301 North Carolina Ave not-the-real-SE, Washington, DC 20003

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Anonymous wrote:Tale a look at the thread on the violent fight at Macgruder and you can guess why parents would prefer to see and their kids to HoCo and even be picky within HoCo about which schools they send their children to

Because there's never a fight in HoCo, right?

I'm sure there are in some schools

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You can find a very nice apartment in SE for less than half a million, so please drop the BS.

If you care, move.

If you don't care, shut up.

That's a lot of money.

Anonymous wrote:Tale a look at the thread on the violent fight at Macgruder and you can guess why parents would prefer to see and their kids to HoCo and even be picky within HoCo about which schools they send their children to

Because there's never a fight in HoCo, right?

Hmmmm so people who can afford $1 milion+ row homes send their kids to highly rated schools? Fascinating!

So this isn't some unique phenomenon in HoCo?!?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Apparently you haven't read or watched a local news report on the state of DC public schools, including in SE in just as long.

Brent Elementary School, for example? 8 out of 10 on GreatSchools. So is Watkins Elementary School. Both in Southeast.

Wonderful!

Move there and rest in peace.

I can't afford to move there.

You can. You just don't want to.

people talking about DC on MD boards never ends well. Most houses inbound for those schools are 1 million plus and they are rowhomes with small lots. You can get a much bigger house and more land for much less in MD.

You can find a very nice apartment in SE for less than half a million, so please drop the BS.

If you care, move.

If you don't care, shut up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Apparently you haven't read or watched a local news report on the state of DC public schools, including in SE in just as long.

Brent Elementary School, for example? 8 out of 10 on GreatSchools. So is Watkins Elementary School. Both in Southeast.

Wonderful!

Move there and rest in peace.

I can't afford to move there.

You can. You just don't want to.

people talking about DC on MD boards never ends well. Most houses inbound for those schools are 1 million plus and they are rowhomes with small lots. You can get a much bigger house and more land for much less in MD.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Apparently you haven't read or watched a local news report on the state of DC public schools, including in SE in just as long.

Brent Elementary School, for example? 8 out of 10 on GreatSchools. So is Watkins Elementary School. Both in Southeast.

Wonderful!

Move there and rest in peace.

I can't afford to move there.

You can. You just don't want to.