Anonymous
02/02/2019 08:54
Subject: Re:Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is that for the added revenue from taxing the rich to make a dent, DCUM would have to agree that the rich includes anyone worth $3 million or earning $300k+. Watch the DCUM liberals squawk about that.
But I'd be for it.
Not true at all. A significant amount of money could be raised even if we only tax wealth above $50 million
How much does YOUR family earn? It's easy to say "tax other people," but are YOU willing to kick in more?
Yep. HHI 400K. But I want it to go to public education and universal healthcare not BS crap like a border wall and nuclear weapons. Oh, and investment in our god-awful infrastructure.
Anonymous
02/01/2019 21:47
Subject: Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/tax-the-rich-786673/
Personally, I'm disgusted by the horrible inequality in this country.
Sick of multi millionaires and billionaires hoarding their wealth like dragons sitting on top of their piles of gold while regular people being crushed by debt.
And sick of seeing rich people spend tens of millions on mansions while the rest of us can't afford to live within an hour of our jobs.
We are in a new gilded age and once again the rich have proved that if you let them keep the millions and billions they suck out of our economy, it won't trickle down to anyone except maybe yacht manufacturers.
I fully support the wealth tax. The ultra rich haven't done anything to make me sympathetic to any concerns they will have about this plan. And for any super rich person reading this.. hope you're ready for the rest of us to stick our poor dirty hands in your fat bank accounts. We're coming for you ....
You basically just tried to label all millionaires and billionaires as people who have no concern for the poor, “we’re coming for you”
Yes, this forum has really turned my stomach recently. There are some lowlifes in here who can't stand the thought that they couldn't hack it and have a million excuses as to why they couldn't make it.
So they want to legally steal from others through taxation. It's easy to see how they ended up In their situations. They don't understand simple math, economics and the overall repercussions.
To those 400 rich people begging to be taxed more, great for them! If that's how they want to spend/lose their money, I support them fully. But just because that is their personal decision, they don't speak for others, including the upper middle class. I hope they donate every last penny if they feel so strongly! But leave others out of it. To each their own.
Anonymous
02/01/2019 21:16
Subject: Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/tax-the-rich-786673/
Personally, I'm disgusted by the horrible inequality in this country.
Sick of multi millionaires and billionaires hoarding their wealth like dragons sitting on top of their piles of gold while regular people being crushed by debt.
And sick of seeing rich people spend tens of millions on mansions while the rest of us can't afford to live within an hour of our jobs.
We are in a new gilded age and once again the rich have proved that if you let them keep the millions and billions they suck out of our economy, it won't trickle down to anyone except maybe yacht manufacturers.
I fully support the wealth tax. The ultra rich haven't done anything to make me sympathetic to any concerns they will have about this plan. And for any super rich person reading this.. hope you're ready for the rest of us to stick our poor dirty hands in your fat bank accounts. We're coming for you ....
You basically just tried to label all millionaires and billionaires as people who have no concern for the poor, “we’re coming for you”
Anonymous
02/01/2019 21:01
Subject: Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Unions people.
Bring ‘em back.
Union isn’t a dirty word.
Say it a few times... it feels so good...
Bring ‘em back.
Union isn’t a dirty word.
Say it a few times... it feels so good...
Anonymous
02/01/2019 20:56
Subject: Re:Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tell us how taking more money from people who are wealthy will make you more wealthy.
How will taxing the wealthy solve the problem of income inequality.
Know what will make me happy? When NYC cops don't have a higher tax rate than hedge fund managers. When Jared Kushner pays some kind of tax on his $300 million net worth increase.
A number of millionaires and billionaires have gotten together and said they WANT to be TAXED HIGHER, in order to help others.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/12/hundreds-of-millionaires-are-banding-together-to-tell-congress-raise-our-taxes.html
Over 400 American millionaires and billionaires plan to send a letter to Congress this week petitioning on lawmakers not to cut their taxes, the Washington Post reported
November 2017
http://www.responsiblewealth.org/read_the_letter
Rs are incredibly obtuse and selfish to blatantly ignore what those rich people are saying.
A handful of rich Rs love the tax cuts and are probably dark money GOP donors.
Then you have 400+ rich folks who are saying they don't need the tax cuts, and yet it's the handful of rich Rs that these Rs listen to.
Anonymous
02/01/2019 20:51
Subject: Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If someone has worked for their money honestly and fairly, and they are now a billionaire or millionaire because of it, then I wouldn’t accuse them of hoarding their money and not giving it too the poor. People should provide for those who need help, but it should be a voluntary decision, not forced. A flat tax will work fine, everyone pays their fair share.
You are not very bright. Flat taxes penalize the poor. During the time of Eisenhower, taxes on the rich were double what they are now. Back when people cared about each other as a society.
I honestly believe there is a strong connection between the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the inadequate tax rate we have today. Racism is a nation-wide thing, of course, but conservative southerners in particular couldn't abide their tax dollars going to black people. Reagan's tales of welfare queens and young bucks eating T-bones struck pay dirt.
Corporations are the biggest recipient of welfare. They pay slave wages, and the workers have to take government benefits just to live. As a result, the struggling middle class pays.
So next time you hear someone complaining about poor people on food stamps- remember the real welfare queens: the CEO's who make 470 times what their workers do and make all of us pay for their multi-million dollar salaries.
Anonymous
02/01/2019 19:58
Subject: Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If someone has worked for their money honestly and fairly, and they are now a billionaire or millionaire because of it, then I wouldn’t accuse them of hoarding their money and not giving it too the poor. People should provide for those who need help, but it should be a voluntary decision, not forced. A flat tax will work fine, everyone pays their fair share.
You are not very bright. Flat taxes penalize the poor. During the time of Eisenhower, taxes on the rich were double what they are now. Back when people cared about each other as a society.
If flat taxes penalize the poor, then progressive taxes penalize the rich. If someone is to be penalized, it should not be based on their economic status. The government receives enough tax revenue. It’s only because of bloated government programs and inefficiency that there is such a big deficit. Rather than throwing more money at the problem, we should fix its inefficiency. Also, just because taxes were high in the past doesn’t justify it being high now. We should assess our current situation to determine how high taxes should be, not just figuring out what the max amount we can tax people. And desiring to not pay a large portion of your taxes doesn’t mean that you don’t care about your fellow humans.
Anonymous
02/01/2019 19:02
Subject: Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone should pay their fair share. The super rich get poor/middle class people to buy into the idea they shouldn't have to pay their fair share.
Yep
I'd like to see everyone limited to a maximum income of $150k a year, and maximum assets of $500k/person.
Anyone with more than that after _____ date when it goes into affect loses it. The government can then reallocate that money to people with less, and even everyone out. That's certainly a fairer system than what we have now.
Hahahaha!!!! Omg. Hahahahaha!!!! What a wacko! You're in the wrong country. We have something called freedom here. The government confiscating your property and dispersing it to others is not freedom. It is theft. There are plenty of communist utopias for you to move to, China, Russia...please leave. No really, you are a horrible person.
I think they are a republican mocking people who want more taxes.
I hope you are right. But it seems the radical left has hijacked the Democratic party. Listen to your announced candidates. Which almost guarantees a Trump relection. I am praying Shultz officially announces. He has my vote.
If they are radical then FDR, johnson and kennedy were insanely radical. No one who has announced they are running is radical. That person is trolling us.
Oh stop. Identity politics and class warfare all the way. All of them. Sickening. They would all lose to Trump. Also why we need someone logical, who can do the math, a centrist like Schultz. I think he'll pull enough Republicans sick and embarrassed of Trump, all of the Independent moderates like me, and all of the sensible regular Democrats who are disgusted with the identity politics and progressive dogma of the Dems. Schultz would win and that's why the Dems are pressuring him to not run.
Lol wow this is the biggest misread of Trump’s win that I have ever seen.
Trump won because he was willing to say a bunch of nasty things that elite Republicans had been refusing to say outright and therefore seemed authentic.
I can’t see anyone like Schultz winning on a platform of “I ran a coffee company and I want the rich to stay rich.”
Anonymous
02/01/2019 18:55
Subject: Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone should pay their fair share. The super rich get poor/middle class people to buy into the idea they shouldn't have to pay their fair share.
Yep
I'd like to see everyone limited to a maximum income of $150k a year, and maximum assets of $500k/person.
Anyone with more than that after _____ date when it goes into affect loses it. The government can then reallocate that money to people with less, and even everyone out. That's certainly a fairer system than what we have now.
Hahahaha!!!! Omg. Hahahahaha!!!! What a wacko! You're in the wrong country. We have something called freedom here. The government confiscating your property and dispersing it to others is not freedom. It is theft. There are plenty of communist utopias for you to move to, China, Russia...please leave. No really, you are a horrible person.
I think they are a republican mocking people who want more taxes.
I hope you are right. But it seems the radical left has hijacked the Democratic party. Listen to your announced candidates. Which almost guarantees a Trump relection. I am praying Shultz officially announces. He has my vote.
If they are radical then FDR, johnson and kennedy were insanely radical. No one who has announced they are running is radical. That person is trolling us.
Oh stop. Identity politics and class warfare all the way. All of them. Sickening. They would all lose to Trump. Also why we need someone logical, who can do the math, a centrist like Schultz. I think he'll pull enough Republicans sick and embarrassed of Trump, all of the Independent moderates like me, and all of the sensible regular Democrats who are disgusted with the identity politics and progressive dogma of the Dems. Schultz would win and that's why the Dems are pressuring him to not run.
Anonymous
02/01/2019 18:53
Subject: Re:Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tell us how taking more money from people who are wealthy will make you more wealthy.
How will taxing the wealthy solve the problem of income inequality.
Know what will make me happy? When NYC cops don't have a higher tax rate than hedge fund managers. When Jared Kushner pays some kind of tax on his $300 million net worth increase.
A number of millionaires and billionaires have gotten together and said they WANT to be TAXED HIGHER, in order to help others.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/12/hundreds-of-millionaires-are-banding-together-to-tell-congress-raise-our-taxes.html
Over 400 American millionaires and billionaires plan to send a letter to Congress this week petitioning on lawmakers not to cut their taxes, the Washington Post reported
November 2017
http://www.responsiblewealth.org/read_the_letter
Anonymous
02/01/2019 18:40
Subject: Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If someone has worked for their money honestly and fairly, and they are now a billionaire or millionaire because of it, then I wouldn’t accuse them of hoarding their money and not giving it too the poor. People should provide for those who need help, but it should be a voluntary decision, not forced. A flat tax will work fine, everyone pays their fair share.
You are not very bright. Flat taxes penalize the poor. During the time of Eisenhower, taxes on the rich were double what they are now. Back when people cared about each other as a society.
Anonymous
02/01/2019 18:32
Subject: Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
You are not very bright. Flat taxes penalize the poor. During the time of Eisenhower, taxes on the rich were double what they are now. Back when people cared about each other as a society.
If you have to start out your argument with an insult, I don’t have respect for that. I’m just trying to respectfully debate this topic. Anyways, I believe that everything should give some taxes, and that under a certain income level you should not have to give any. But if flat taxes penalize the poor, progressive taxes penalizes the rich. I don’t believe it’s fair for either rich or pair to be penalized. Also, if taxes were higher in the past doesn’t mean that we should raise them today, we should do what’s best in our current situation, because in Eisenhower’s time the nation and economy were different and the country had different needs
Anonymous
02/01/2019 17:36
Subject: Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone should pay their fair share. The super rich get poor/middle class people to buy into the idea they shouldn't have to pay their fair share.
Yep
I'd like to see everyone limited to a maximum income of $150k a year, and maximum assets of $500k/person.
Anyone with more than that after _____ date when it goes into affect loses it. The government can then reallocate that money to people with less, and even everyone out. That's certainly a fairer system than what we have now.
Hahahaha!!!! Omg. Hahahahaha!!!! What a wacko! You're in the wrong country. We have something called freedom here. The government confiscating your property and dispersing it to others is not freedom. It is theft. There are plenty of communist utopias for you to move to, China, Russia...please leave. No really, you are a horrible person.
I think they are a republican mocking people who want more taxes.
I hope you are right. But it seems the radical left has hijacked the Democratic party. Listen to your announced candidates. Which almost guarantees a Trump relection. I am praying Shultz officially announces. He has my vote.
If they are radical then FDR, johnson and kennedy were insanely radical. No one who has announced they are running is radical. That person is trolling us.
Anonymous
02/01/2019 17:26
Subject: Re:Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:Tell us how taking more money from people who are wealthy will make you more wealthy.
How will taxing the wealthy solve the problem of income inequality.
Know what will make me happy? When NYC cops don't have a higher tax rate than hedge fund managers. When Jared Kushner pays some kind of tax on his $300 million net worth increase.
Anonymous
02/01/2019 16:41
Subject: Turns Out Americans Actually Do Want to Tax the Rich
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone should pay their fair share. The super rich get poor/middle class people to buy into the idea they shouldn't have to pay their fair share.
Yep
I'd like to see everyone limited to a maximum income of $150k a year, and maximum assets of $500k/person.
Anyone with more than that after _____ date when it goes into affect loses it. The government can then reallocate that money to people with less, and even everyone out. That's certainly a fairer system than what we have now.
Hahahaha!!!! Omg. Hahahahaha!!!! What a wacko! You're in the wrong country. We have something called freedom here. The government confiscating your property and dispersing it to others is not freedom. It is theft. There are plenty of communist utopias for you to move to, China, Russia...please leave. No really, you are a horrible person.
I think they are a republican mocking people who want more taxes.
I hope you are right. But it seems the radical left has hijacked the Democratic party. Listen to your announced candidates. Which almost guarantees a Trump relection. I am praying Shultz officially announces. He has my vote.