Anonymous
Post 01/12/2019 12:45     Subject: Marie Kondo on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:I really wish these shows actually provided tips on organization along with equipment. Telling you to dump all your clothes in a pile, toss some, and fold the rest isn't particularly helpful.

I watched the first episode and I wasn't impressed by how the kitchen drawers simply held like sized items in random boxes.

Honestly, the Kardashians have better organized kitchens and pantries.


read the book and its actually super helpful to put all your clothes in a pile and I mean everything. I pulled stuff from boxes in the attic, coat closet, bins under beds. I had old prom dresses, maternity clothes, sorority T-shirts. it was insane how much I had. You have no idea until you truly put EVERY piece of clothing (from anywhere in the house) into one pile.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2019 12:43     Subject: Marie Kondo on Netflix
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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what is wrong with Rachel Friend's mouth? Is that herpes?


I wondered but her husband kissed her at the end so probably not. I admire her for not being insecure about it. It's life.


I thought the exact same thing. I figured it was herpes. I noticed the editors were kind to include more shots from the good side. But then the husband kissed her and that made me think not herpes.


It’s a mole.



but it started on the bottom lip at the beginning of episode and then was raging and red on the upper lip at the end of the episode. def not a mole.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2019 12:41     Subject: Marie Kondo on Netflix
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Anonymous wrote:OMG, the people on here thinking the first couple was normal must be friends of the couple. They were clearly on the path to divorce. The husband was such an angry jerk, and I can't even imagine what he's like behind closed doors. I'm assuming if she has herpes (duh) he already does since they have two kids together. That was odd.

The wife was.


The herpes thing was odd in that it seemed to move around her mouth.

I thought they seemed like a pretty typical couple with young kids. He didn't seem like a jerk, he clearly said he loves spending time with his family and put a lot of blame on himself for not giving his best to his kids. I can't believe people think they are on the path to divorce, totally disagree they both seem very self aware about the state of their lives.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2019 08:32     Subject: Marie Kondo on Netflix
I watched just the first episode last week. It felt like they skipped paper and books because that couple didn't seem to have much of any! They had just a couple books that I could see. Paleo cooking.

I had scanned this thread before watching and figured I wouldn't like the couple. Wow so many of you (our at least a couple prolific posters!) are so critical! I'm glad more recent posters thought they weren't so bad. Not people I'd be bffs with, but I can certainly empathize with their situation. I don't have anxiety about laundry but I can understand how something that seems unmanageable can be scary. It is really lucky for them to figure out some of these lessons while their kids are young. I wonder if the show runners put it first because a lot of the konmari criticism was about how her method makes sense while you're young and single, but how could it work when you're extra busy and have kiss in the household.

I thought it was sweet how their relationship really seemed to change. And I liked that it was maybe the only reality show I've seen where the directors don't try to get those"gotcha" moments. Like someone gets angry or emotional once and they replay it to make then look like drama queens.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2019 08:17     Subject: Re:Marie Kondo on Netflix
Does she talk about Paper and how to deal with it? Also sentimental items? I watched the first show and she didn’t talk about these much.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2019 16:09     Subject: Re:Marie Kondo on Netflix
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Anonymous wrote:I have been obsessive watcher of all kinds of decluttering and home organizing shows. I had heard of KonMari but did not think it would be something that I would want to do. but, HOLY MOLY - loved the show and also konmaried my son's and DH's closet and dressers yesterday. So inspired.

I feel with all the transformation shows, the focus is on less belongings and I always feel that it makes people sad in the process. However Marie does a few things that is very respectful to the house and the occupants. First, she greets the house. This is the key. However junky the house is, it is still the participants home. Second, she asks people to "thank" the things they give away. Psychologically it means that it is not wasteful to give away things for others to enjoy. And third, she asks people to keep what sparks their joy. It gives the control to people because they can choose to keep something that does not have any use except to give joy. In the end, your house becomes more joyful because you are only keeping your loved and favorite possessions.

The homes also were very typical of most homes. It had lots of spaces that were clean and not cluttered, and then there was the spaces where most people stash things - closets, drawers, dressers, bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen, pantry, garage etc.

I feel the people who went through this process with her, in the end will always know how to declutter and organize because it was a mind-shift. I am glad that the show was not aiming to show people drama in this show because I hate that. I actually loved the Friend family and found the wife and kids adorable, but then I am not a White woman and feel no need to tear apart every good looking skinny White woman .


HAHA! +1
some people are hard AF on one another. Jesus.

The husband knows he's an ass but that does't excuse his poo-pooing of her having to do laundry. he even says, that he knows he's not giving the best of himself to the home or the family. i would expect many middle aged salespeople feel like this at some point or another. I loved her on the People's Couch and maybe this is their banter/dynamic but damn the road to divorce. i don't know. i didn't quite glean that from this hour interaction. and the trashy comments really threw me for a loop. he's tired and so is she.

i am not fan of the pinterest decorations but to each it's own. that's what they like. i was expecting a way more positive thread. me and my kid went thru toys and i'm anticipating starting clothes this weekend!


I posted way earlier about not liking the mom and really questioning why this episode would be included at all let alone why it would be made first! The mom wasn’t mean at all. She seemed nice. The husband did seem to have a lot of anger. He didn’t show it outright. But he was definitely frustrated. And she just comes off as “I’m just useless. <giggle> <giggle>”. Like, it’s not cute. I would find it extremely frustrating in a partner.

I also thought it was funny to find out she’s a self employed relationship expert.

But, back to the actual episode. The wife was annoying. Now that I know this isn’t her first time on TV, I wonder if that was why she cane across the way she did to me. She kind of acted like a reality persona a little.

I hated her decorating for the most part. Looked like a TJ max home goods store. But the kids were cute, and I think the parents’ issues are ones shared by a lot of us to different extents.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2019 15:48     Subject: Re:Marie Kondo on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:I have been obsessive watcher of all kinds of decluttering and home organizing shows. I had heard of KonMari but did not think it would be something that I would want to do. but, HOLY MOLY - loved the show and also konmaried my son's and DH's closet and dressers yesterday. So inspired.

I feel with all the transformation shows, the focus is on less belongings and I always feel that it makes people sad in the process. However Marie does a few things that is very respectful to the house and the occupants. First, she greets the house. This is the key. However junky the house is, it is still the participants home. Second, she asks people to "thank" the things they give away. Psychologically it means that it is not wasteful to give away things for others to enjoy. And third, she asks people to keep what sparks their joy. It gives the control to people because they can choose to keep something that does not have any use except to give joy. In the end, your house becomes more joyful because you are only keeping your loved and favorite possessions.

The homes also were very typical of most homes. It had lots of spaces that were clean and not cluttered, and then there was the spaces where most people stash things - closets, drawers, dressers, bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen, pantry, garage etc.

I feel the people who went through this process with her, in the end will always know how to declutter and organize because it was a mind-shift. I am glad that the show was not aiming to show people drama in this show because I hate that. I actually loved the Friend family and found the wife and kids adorable, but then I am not a White woman and feel no need to tear apart every good looking skinny White woman .


HAHA! +1
some people are hard AF on one another. Jesus.

The husband knows he's an ass but that does't excuse his poo-pooing of her having to do laundry. he even says, that he knows he's not giving the best of himself to the home or the family. i would expect many middle aged salespeople feel like this at some point or another. I loved her on the People's Couch and maybe this is their banter/dynamic but damn the road to divorce. i don't know. i didn't quite glean that from this hour interaction. and the trashy comments really threw me for a loop. he's tired and so is she.

i am not fan of the pinterest decorations but to each it's own. that's what they like. i was expecting a way more positive thread. me and my kid went thru toys and i'm anticipating starting clothes this weekend!
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2019 15:30     Subject: Marie Kondo on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:OMG, the people on here thinking the first couple was normal must be friends of the couple. They were clearly on the path to divorce. The husband was such an angry jerk, and I can't even imagine what he's like behind closed doors. I'm assuming if she has herpes (duh) he already does since they have two kids together. That was odd.

The wife was.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2019 15:27     Subject: Marie Kondo on Netflix
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Anonymous wrote:I am working my way through. I like it, especially that it's less extreme than shows like Hoarders and people do their homework. So far most of the husbands seem kinda dickish. I loved the sweetness of the Mercier family and the Margie episode made me cry.

Anyone else?

I just finished the first episode and wanted to punch that jerk!


Really? I had the opposite reaction. I want to punch HER. She’s so whiny and clearly not fit to be a “mostly” stay at home mom. You can’t find your way around your own kitchen and don’t know what goes on in there? Laundry gives you anxiety? Grow up. That’s called laziness. Suck it up and get it done.


Me too. At least twice during the episode she asks for her dh to compliment her. “I’m bad at laundry but I’m still worth it? Right, babe? Right? Babe?!”


And she's got vocal fry.


I just watched the first episode. Don't understand the hate here for the Friend family- husband or wife. They seem like a normal couple to me. I didn't find him being a jerk at all. And please- what she said regarding the laundry, "I'm still worth it, right babe?" I mean who the heck doesn't talk like that to their husband once in awhile? Do you always talk with your spouses in a formal, non-joking, non-flirty way, everyday? BORING. And also, yes, being a SAHM (FYI- I'm not) is stressful and some people are not naturally organized so it's very feasible that she is overwhelmed with her kitchen despite being at home most of the day. REmember she has 2 young kids which in itself is a stressful stage to be in. Don't be so judgy!


i agree! some people have different stressors. i have a single child and bow down to anyone w/more than one cause it seems stressful.

i'm a weirdo and actually like to fold laundry, but i won't lie that on the first day back at work, i found myself in HR sobbing about the damn laundry. it can get crazy. i'm jealous and now on the hunt for a laundress
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2019 15:26     Subject: Marie Kondo on Netflix
OMG, the people on here thinking the first couple was normal must be friends of the couple. They were clearly on the path to divorce. The husband was such an angry jerk, and I can't even imagine what he's like behind closed doors. I'm assuming if she has herpes (duh) he already does since they have two kids together. That was odd.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2019 15:16     Subject: Re:Marie Kondo on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have been obsessive watcher of all kinds of decluttering and home organizing shows. I had heard of KonMari but did not think it would be something that I would want to do. but, HOLY MOLY - loved the show and also konmaried my son's and DH's closet and dressers yesterday. So inspired.

I feel with all the transformation shows, the focus is on less belongings and I always feel that it makes people sad in the process. However Marie does a few things that is very respectful to the house and the occupants. First, she greets the house. This is the key. However junky the house is, it is still the participants home. Second, she asks people to "thank" the things they give away. Psychologically it means that it is not wasteful to give away things for others to enjoy. And third, she asks people to keep what sparks their joy. It gives the control to people because they can choose to keep something that does not have any use except to give joy. In the end, your house becomes more joyful because you are only keeping your loved and favorite possessions.

The homes also were very typical of most homes. It had lots of spaces that were clean and not cluttered, and then there was the spaces where most people stash things - closets, drawers, dressers, bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen, pantry, garage etc.

I feel the people who went through this process with her, in the end will always know how to declutter and organize because it was a mind-shift. I am glad that the show was not aiming to show people drama in this show because I hate that. I actually loved the Friend family and found the wife and kids adorable, but then I am not a White woman and feel no need to tear apart every good looking skinny White woman .

How did you KonMari your husband and son’s belongings? Isn’t the owner of the belongings bags actually KonMaring - they would be the one to thank the object and determine if it sparks joy.


Sorry, did not specify this but both of them had already removed clothes that they did not want several weeks ago. Their closet was still disorganized and not "user friendly". I folded and organized their clothes in their dressers and closet so that everything was easily visible and easy to take out. I folded everything in rectangles and rolls as she had shown and both of them were pleased how easy it was to see what they have and to have designated spaces for it. I also used a lot of open containers to put clothes in (in both the dressers and the closets) and everything is a lot more tidy, contained and now they have a designated space. I just did two loads of their laundry today and it was easy to put things away because everything had a space.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2019 15:15     Subject: Marie Kondo on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of these people have no basic home training.

They seem to have missed the boat on cleaning up after themselves, organizing, editing and decorating.

The families are all nice and run the gamut of 'went through some hard stuff and is emotionally hoarding' to 'I'm lazy'.


Yes! This was the feeling I had as well. I’m a sahm, I get that little kids are messy, but cmon, it’s sort of our job to do laundry. Even if it causes you anxiety.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2019 14:23     Subject: Re:Marie Kondo on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:I have been obsessive watcher of all kinds of decluttering and home organizing shows. I had heard of KonMari but did not think it would be something that I would want to do. but, HOLY MOLY - loved the show and also konmaried my son's and DH's closet and dressers yesterday. So inspired.

I feel with all the transformation shows, the focus is on less belongings and I always feel that it makes people sad in the process. However Marie does a few things that is very respectful to the house and the occupants. First, she greets the house. This is the key. However junky the house is, it is still the participants home. Second, she asks people to "thank" the things they give away. Psychologically it means that it is not wasteful to give away things for others to enjoy. And third, she asks people to keep what sparks their joy. It gives the control to people because they can choose to keep something that does not have any use except to give joy. In the end, your house becomes more joyful because you are only keeping your loved and favorite possessions.

The homes also were very typical of most homes. It had lots of spaces that were clean and not cluttered, and then there was the spaces where most people stash things - closets, drawers, dressers, bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen, pantry, garage etc.

I feel the people who went through this process with her, in the end will always know how to declutter and organize because it was a mind-shift. I am glad that the show was not aiming to show people drama in this show because I hate that. I actually loved the Friend family and found the wife and kids adorable, but then I am not a White woman and feel no need to tear apart every good looking skinny White woman .

How did you KonMari your husband and son’s belongings? Isn’t the owner of the belongings bags actually KonMaring - they would be the one to thank the object and determine if it sparks joy.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2019 12:18     Subject: Re:Marie Kondo on Netflix
I have been obsessive watcher of all kinds of decluttering and home organizing shows. I had heard of KonMari but did not think it would be something that I would want to do. but, HOLY MOLY - loved the show and also konmaried my son's and DH's closet and dressers yesterday. So inspired.

I feel with all the transformation shows, the focus is on less belongings and I always feel that it makes people sad in the process. However Marie does a few things that is very respectful to the house and the occupants. First, she greets the house. This is the key. However junky the house is, it is still the participants home. Second, she asks people to "thank" the things they give away. Psychologically it means that it is not wasteful to give away things for others to enjoy. And third, she asks people to keep what sparks their joy. It gives the control to people because they can choose to keep something that does not have any use except to give joy. In the end, your house becomes more joyful because you are only keeping your loved and favorite possessions.

The homes also were very typical of most homes. It had lots of spaces that were clean and not cluttered, and then there was the spaces where most people stash things - closets, drawers, dressers, bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen, pantry, garage etc.

I feel the people who went through this process with her, in the end will always know how to declutter and organize because it was a mind-shift. I am glad that the show was not aiming to show people drama in this show because I hate that. I actually loved the Friend family and found the wife and kids adorable, but then I am not a White woman and feel no need to tear apart every good looking skinny White woman .
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2019 12:14     Subject: Marie Kondo on Netflix
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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand why when it was the book it was Kon-Marie and now its Marie-Kon


because in Japanese the surname comes first, so this is just a shortening of her first and last name for marketing purposes...


But why would it not have stayed the same ...... KonMari has the last name first, she's japanese, she's still japanese on the show so your point makes no sense idiot





Her name is Marie Kondo. Her method is Kon Mari.


Okay. I am not sure why you are calling me an idiot. It seems0 unwarranted and definitely mean

Her books were originally published in Japan, in Japanese. So she created the media named KonMari. Much like calling national geographic= Nat Geo

when she started publishing and putting TV shows in Western Nations, she switched to the Western convention of first name first, surname second.


Clear?


Your previous response was more than clear. Not sure why pp jumped on you.
I agree, all you did was answer the question. There was no reason for pp to call you an idiot.