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Anonymous wrote:Hogg heard a single shot while hiding in a closet.

Are you serious?

That makes it, what, no big deal? Do you have kids of your own? God, I hope you wouldn't minimize it if this happened to them.

I'm a pediatrician outside the DC area. I see teenagers in my practice who were at a school where there was a shooting last year. Some are still having nightmares. Some have transferred schools. There is other fallout. Some seem to be doing okay. One was okay until she wasn't -- when that time of year rolled around again, and she could smell the same seasonal scents again, she started crying for no reason. These are just kids.

And there are kids who deal with gang deaths and parent overdoses. (I've been on both ends of the spectrum during my career - inner city to rural America.). your point being?

Regarding Hogg, he doesn't appear to be suffering from PTSD. He's apparently cool enough for the camera and is eager to fight back when provoked. In fact, quite the opposite is true. He appears to love the limelight.

True activists needs ego in order to give them the courage to fight for a cause, but there's healthy ego and arrogance. This kid doesn't have the compassion that successful activists have. He'll be gone in the blink of an eye.

Anonymous wrote:He has possibly the lowest SAT of the entire class; he's not an intellectual match. And it's pretty much impossible to fail out of Harvard, so in five years this truly average IQ young man will be running around with a member of the "elite" credential, act like he's the smartest in the room, and expect everyone to bow in his presence. Gag.

He's nowhere near the bottom. He's probably well ahead of a number of the athletic recruits (yes, there are at least a handful in every class at every Ivy), ahead of several foreign-educated freshmen, and also ahead of the tiny handful of legacies that really do buy their way in every year. He's far from "truly average IQ" - if his SAT has any Stanford-Benet comparability, he's about top 13% of the college-bound pool, which would probably translate to top 6-7% of the US population.

And he is dedicated, tactical, perfectly spoken, and quite heroic.

Demonstrated leadership ability counts for a lot.

Anonymous wrote:He has possibly the lowest SAT of the entire class; he's not an intellectual match. And it's pretty much impossible to fail out of Harvard, so in five years this truly average IQ young man will be running around with a member of the "elite" credential, act like he's the smartest in the room, and expect everyone to bow in his presence. Gag.

The pain his success causes you truly pleases me.

Anonymous wrote:Hogg heard a single shot while hiding in a closet.

You mean he wasn't charging with the pointy end of the American Flag while yelling "die commie pig!"?

Anonymous wrote:Hogg heard a single shot while hiding in a closet.

Are you serious?

That makes it, what, no big deal? Do you have kids of your own? God, I hope you wouldn't minimize it if this happened to them.

I'm a pediatrician outside the DC area. I see teenagers in my practice who were at a school where there was a shooting last year. Some are still having nightmares. Some have transferred schools. There is other fallout. Some seem to be doing okay. One was okay until she wasn't -- when that time of year rolled around again, and she could smell the same seasonal scents again, she started crying for no reason. These are just kids.

Anonymous wrote:Hogg heard a single shot while hiding in a closet.

He profited from a sad tragedy. Harvard has no shame.

Anonymous wrote:He has possibly the lowest SAT of the entire class; he's not an intellectual match. And it's pretty much impossible to fail out of Harvard, so in five years this truly average IQ young man will be running around with a member of the "elite" credential, act like he's the smartest in the room, and expect everyone to bow in his presence. Gag.

I think we can all agree that the SAT isn't a real measure of anything and certainly not a projection of future success in life.

Hogg heard a single shot while hiding in a closet.

He has possibly the lowest SAT of the entire class; he's not an intellectual match. And it's pretty much impossible to fail out of Harvard, so in five years this truly average IQ young man will be running around with a member of the "elite" credential, act like he's the smartest in the room, and expect everyone to bow in his presence. Gag.

Exactly. It's not like there are teen Trump youth who even want to go to Harvard, so it is hard to understand why this is an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the lowest difficulty setting for white males.

He only had an SAT of 1270 and the average Harvard SAT is around 1500.

Colleges use the SAT as a predictor of whether unknown students are likely to do well. I think he’s proven in other arenas that he’s likely to do well.

Harvard's acceptance rate is supposedly VERY low.

The 4.59 percent admission rate is the lowest of all the Ivy League schools this year.

https://www.boston.com/news/education/2018/03/29/harvard-acceptance-rate-2018


When did Harvard make the offer?

In the spring, he was vocal about being shut out of these campuses: UC Los Angeles, UC San Diego, UC Santa Barbara and UC Irvine. Harvard didn't make the offer at that point??? Or did it suddenly come to the rescue after he slammed a Conservative news personality?

THIS, precisely. Thank you for illuminating this for everyone's edification.

This isn’t hard. In last years college cycle, he was just come kid with a 1270 SAT. He was no competitive for Ivy admissions. This year, he adds something different to his application, to say the least. Something that makes a broader range of schools possible. Plus, he started working with politics and activism, and the schools that we a matched for different goals changed. So he applied EA this year to different schools. I’m not sure why this is hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the lowest difficulty setting for white males.

He only had an SAT of 1270 and the average Harvard SAT is around 1500.

What a bitch you are!!

Gee, did your kid survive a mass slaughter of his classmates? Did your kid start a national movement to ban the type of gun that killed his classmates? Did your kid support legislation across the nation to restrict crazy people from getting their hands on guns?

No? Huh. Maybe your kid isn't Harvard material.

+1 this kid got a million people to march as part of an anti-gun violence movement and has registers thousands of young voters. That’s pretty incredible.

+1. He lived through a traumatic event and ... lobbied for gun regulations— some opt which he got passed. Organized the peaceful school walkouts that both of my kids — and most kids in the DMV— participated in. Organized March for Our Lives— over a million kids in downtown DC, with hundreds of sister marches. Registered and mobilized young voters The only thing I’ve seen like it is Malala, who was shot and used that tragedy to bring publicity to her work for women’s education. And was accepted at Oxford.

The kid is an activist and a leader. Full stop. Maybe not an activist for your policies. Maybe not a leader in areas that appeal to you. But any good college aims for diversity. The kids with a 4.0 and perfect SATs have a place, the TJ kids with serious STEM cred, like national physics olympics team members and Siemens winners. Top notch musicians and athletes and writers. And yes— the kid who can survive a school shooting and successfully lobby for gun restrictions and get a million kids to show up and march.

This kid will make as big a difference to the world as the perfect SAT, perfect grades kids who go on to work for Big Law or Investment Banks. Probably a bigger difference.

You can hate his politics. That’s fair. But no intellectually honest person can say he has not already made a significant difference in the area of gun control.

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Anonymous wrote:You know, I haven't seen his full university application. I'm totally okay with letting a private institution make their own decision about who they chose to admit, without my input.

I think it is sweet that so many posters are impressed with Harvard.

A Harvard education is impressive and always will be, PP. Stop pretending it isn’t.

Anonymous wrote:You know, I haven't seen his full university application. I'm totally okay with letting a private institution make their own decision about who they chose to admit, without my input.

I think it is sweet that so many posters are impressed with Harvard.