Anonymous
Post 10/27/2018 18:55     Subject: Anyone else still drinking?
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Anonymous wrote:Look up Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and wrap your feeble mind around the fact that this is what you're doing to your child.


Wrap your feeble mind around this: Pre 70s, most moms smoked and drank throughout their pregnancies. As in martinis and gin and tonics. And yet, there wasn't a huge drop in kids with special needs. In fact, there's a small rise in the overall rate because of ASD.


Correlation does not equal causation. There are many other differences between the 70s and today... medicines (before and during pregnancy), birth control pills, pollution, food quality in general, etc... Also the diagnosis of ASD is much better known today than it was and parents are more aware.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2018 18:29     Subject: Anyone else still drinking?
Special needs children are definitely on the rise.
Please care for your children....
They need responsible parents who love them.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2018 18:24     Subject: Anyone else still drinking?
Anonymous wrote:Look up Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and wrap your feeble mind around the fact that this is what you're doing to your child.


Wrap your feeble mind around this: Pre 70s, most moms smoked and drank throughout their pregnancies. As in martinis and gin and tonics. And yet, there wasn't a huge drop in kids with special needs. In fact, there's a small rise in the overall rate because of ASD.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2018 18:04     Subject: Re:Anyone else still drinking?
Anonymous wrote:OP HERE looks like some people missed my update so hopefully that gets their attention. I found out I was pregnant at 3w6d and have drank no more than 5-6 times since then. I am in my second trimester. When I drank it was 7oz of wine MAX. Sometimes just 3 oz. One time it was a beer. DH recently started antidepressants. He knows he needs to be very careful about drinking now that he's taking them. Thanks for the concern though. I have other relaxation strategies, drinking was one of the not so healthy ones.


How many weeks are you? Are you drinking 1 glass of wine a week? You are either lying or your post was not clear (probably on purpose). 1 glass of wine per week is probably totally fine. My ob encourages it (I never drink pregnant or not). One glass per day or per meal Is probably not ok. Just try not to be selfish and think about your baby. Your DH is an ass and not ready yet to be a father... the stress and tiredness will only increase
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2018 17:58     Subject: Anyone else still drinking?
Anonymous wrote:Look up Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and wrap your feeble mind around the fact that this is what you're doing to your child.

This exactly. Please do not consume alcohol while growing your baby.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2018 17:18     Subject: Anyone else still drinking?
Look up Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and wrap your feeble mind around the fact that this is what you're doing to your child.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2018 13:08     Subject: Re:Anyone else still drinking?
OP HERE looks like some people missed my update so hopefully that gets their attention. I found out I was pregnant at 3w6d and have drank no more than 5-6 times since then. I am in my second trimester. When I drank it was 7oz of wine MAX. Sometimes just 3 oz. One time it was a beer. DH recently started antidepressants. He knows he needs to be very careful about drinking now that he's taking them. Thanks for the concern though. I have other relaxation strategies, drinking was one of the not so healthy ones.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2018 21:39     Subject: Anyone else still drinking?
"Blame" after the fact does no one any good.

Thing is, we should be doing our best going forward, and maybe even help others learn from our mistakes.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2018 21:20     Subject: Anyone else still drinking?
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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad that I drank ALOT one night when I was pregnant. It was very early and I didn't even know I was pregnant at the time. I was probably about 3 weeks pregnant. (Once I knew I was pregnant, I didn't drink)

I still feel terrible about this. I have never told anyone but I'm still afraid it is the reason why my son has ADD.

I carry a lot of guilt.


Me too
Except I was a bit further along


I didn’t drink at all during pregnancy and my son has ADHD, so don’t blame yourself.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2018 20:02     Subject: Re:Anyone else still drinking?
Wow Op. You need a psychiatrist, not alcohol.

I feel terribly sorry for your baby. Please get yourself under control before you give birth.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2018 12:59     Subject: Anyone else still drinking?
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Anonymous wrote:Alcohol is a known teratogen. The”research” everyone keeps throwing around supports this. How much alcohol is required to affect the fetus is unknown. So no, this isn’t scaremongering. Why take a known or unknown risk if you don’t have to?


So is barbecued food and bacon, but nobody engages in moral panic about that.


Well gee, who can argue with such fine logic? Fetal bacon syndrome is a scourge on society.


Some idiot is going to come in with a comment on obesity. 3, 2, 1...


You guys both suck so hard and have made this thread completely useless. Congratulations.


Did you think this thread was useful at this point? Lol.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2018 12:38     Subject: Anyone else still drinking?
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Anonymous wrote:Alcohol is a known teratogen. The”research” everyone keeps throwing around supports this. How much alcohol is required to affect the fetus is unknown. So no, this isn’t scaremongering. Why take a known or unknown risk if you don’t have to?


So is barbecued food and bacon, but nobody engages in moral panic about that.


Well gee, who can argue with such fine logic? Fetal bacon syndrome is a scourge on society.


Some idiot is going to come in with a comment on obesity. 3, 2, 1...


You guys both suck so hard and have made this thread completely useless. Congratulations.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2018 12:21     Subject: Anyone else still drinking?
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Anonymous wrote:Alcohol is a known teratogen. The”research” everyone keeps throwing around supports this. How much alcohol is required to affect the fetus is unknown. So no, this isn’t scaremongering. Why take a known or unknown risk if you don’t have to?


So is barbecued food and bacon, but nobody engages in moral panic about that.


Well gee, who can argue with such fine logic? Fetal bacon syndrome is a scourge on society.


Some idiot is going to come in with a comment on obesity. 3, 2, 1...
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2018 12:19     Subject: Anyone else still drinking?
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Anonymous wrote:Alcohol is a known teratogen. The”research” everyone keeps throwing around supports this. How much alcohol is required to affect the fetus is unknown. So no, this isn’t scaremongering. Why take a known or unknown risk if you don’t have to?


So is barbecued food and bacon, but nobody engages in moral panic about that.


Well gee, who can argue with such fine logic? Fetal bacon syndrome is a scourge on society.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2018 11:56     Subject: Anyone else still drinking?
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Anonymous wrote:OP I think people exaggerate on the alcohol thing, but it's hard to tell if you have an issue. Depending on how big a "serving" is, 1.5 servings a few times a week could be a lot in the 1st tri especially ... and people generally under-estimte how much they drink. If you could say honestly you had 1 white wine spritzer with 2 oz of wine about once a week ... no biggie. But if your "serving" is a giant 6oz glass of wine and you drink 3-4 nights/week ... that is a problem.

I don't like that your DH pressures you either.

I will tell you the truth, which is that I drank lightly (like 2oz of wine 2x/week) and would not do it again if I had another baby. It's a very short period of time, and my general parenting values (now that I have a kid) are to be very discerning and risk averse about my child's health.



What does this mean (bolded)?


I mean, I think they exaggerate on how bad truly light drinking is, given that there's no strong evidence for it being bad. The question is whether OP is actually engaged in "light drinking." https://systematicreviewsjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2046-4053-3-1


I completely disagree with you, but I know a number of fetal alcohol babies. Alcohol is bad for your fetus. Period.


But how much did these fetal babies moms drink while pregnant? Context matters. Any doctor worth their salt will tell you that there is a huge difference in risks to the baby with a pregnant woman who is a heavy drinker vs. one who has an occasional glass of wine.

Hello, no amount of alcohol is a good thing for any baby.


Can you back up your claim that “any” amount of alcohol is “bad” for your baby? No, you can’t. So quit repeating it over and over.


Her “claim” is that no amount of alcohol is a good thing for any baby. So, how about you point us to some studies that alcohol is a good thing for a baby. I’ll wait.


hey, too much water is bad for your baby. Anything can be bad in excessive amounts. I agree OP has an issue but the whole “no amount has been proven safe” is a) stupid scaremongering and b) not supported by research.


You missed the point. But- do whatever you have to do to justify drinking while pregnant. I honestly don’t care, not my baby.


You know what’s really dangerous? driving. so I assume you never drive?


Most American women have to drive in order to live a normal life. I live in a walkable area and can go without driving but most can’t in order to work, but food, go to the doctor etc.

However there is absolutely NO reason to drink while pregnant. It’s cimpletley unnecessary.


If you really cared about your baby, you'd take the bus.


Even better, I walk!