Anonymous
10/22/2018 12:27
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Keeping a baby warm and warming milk is simply common sense.
Anonymous
10/22/2018 12:27
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, you are deranged.
We kept our son is in a refrigerator bag next to the bag so we could just roll over and grab one. He’s been a champion sleeper since day one.
Why are you so determined to find evidence to support your completely random theory that bottles must be warmed? Is it just a desire to make bottlefeeding more difficult for new parents?
The answer is yes- that is exactly what she is trying to do. To make formula feeding more difficult, to shame mothers into believing their formula must be as close to 98.6 degrees as possible because that's what breastmilk comes out of the body as. And any other temperature is either damaging to the baby's health or sleep patterns or GI tract in some way, or when that's shot down, any other temperature just isn't as soothing or yummy tasting. How to solve this problem? Just breastfeed! I can't stand people like her.
So weird! Every baby is different. Every family is different. As long as everyone gets fed, who cares? There are certainly a million other more pressing problems to address. And no parent has ever proved his or her love through the temperature of formula. This is just not a thing. It just does not matter. You are not doing anything beneficial by giving your kid 98.6 formula v 72 formula. It isn’t cozier or better for digestion. It isn’t anything. Except really really weird. Like someone who is really old and didn’t make it out of 7th grade.
I think a thirty degree difference is significant, especially for a newborn.
Significant in what way?
Anonymous
10/22/2018 12:22
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, you are deranged.
We kept our son is in a refrigerator bag next to the bag so we could just roll over and grab one. He’s been a champion sleeper since day one.
Why are you so determined to find evidence to support your completely random theory that bottles must be warmed? Is it just a desire to make bottlefeeding more difficult for new parents?
The answer is yes- that is exactly what she is trying to do. To make formula feeding more difficult, to shame mothers into believing their formula must be as close to 98.6 degrees as possible because that's what breastmilk comes out of the body as. And any other temperature is either damaging to the baby's health or sleep patterns or GI tract in some way, or when that's shot down, any other temperature just isn't as soothing or yummy tasting. How to solve this problem? Just breastfeed! I can't stand people like her.
So weird! Every baby is different. Every family is different. As long as everyone gets fed, who cares? There are certainly a million other more pressing problems to address. And no parent has ever proved his or her love through the temperature of formula. This is just not a thing. It just does not matter. You are not doing anything beneficial by giving your kid 98.6 formula v 72 formula. It isn’t cozier or better for digestion. It isn’t anything. Except really really weird. Like someone who is really old and didn’t make it out of 7th grade.
I think a thirty degree difference is significant, especially for a newborn.
And I can think newborns are happier when dressed in the color orange, but it doesn't make my viewpoint medically or scientifically sound, and it doesn't mean I should try to shame other moms who don't dress their newborns in orange because of my erroneous claims that babies in orange are happier and cozier.
Anonymous
10/22/2018 12:06
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, you are deranged.
We kept our son is in a refrigerator bag next to the bag so we could just roll over and grab one. He’s been a champion sleeper since day one.
Why are you so determined to find evidence to support your completely random theory that bottles must be warmed? Is it just a desire to make bottlefeeding more difficult for new parents?
The answer is yes- that is exactly what she is trying to do. To make formula feeding more difficult, to shame mothers into believing their formula must be as close to 98.6 degrees as possible because that's what breastmilk comes out of the body as. And any other temperature is either damaging to the baby's health or sleep patterns or GI tract in some way, or when that's shot down, any other temperature just isn't as soothing or yummy tasting. How to solve this problem? Just breastfeed! I can't stand people like her.
So weird! Every baby is different. Every family is different. As long as everyone gets fed, who cares? There are certainly a million other more pressing problems to address. And no parent has ever proved his or her love through the temperature of formula. This is just not a thing. It just does not matter. You are not doing anything beneficial by giving your kid 98.6 formula v 72 formula. It isn’t cozier or better for digestion. It isn’t anything. Except really really weird. Like someone who is really old and didn’t make it out of 7th grade.
I think a thirty degree difference is significant, especially for a newborn.
Anonymous
10/22/2018 11:45
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
AGAIN, each parent has COMPLETE authority to feed her baby however she wants.
Considering the fact that this is a DISCUSSION board, please stop trying to silence any discussion.
Each opinion may be expressed. And again, each parent may choose what is best for her newborn baby. -OP
Friendly reminder:
All are welcomed here to express different opinions.
Yeah, not so much. If you couch your opinion in the guise of "fact" and "science" and tell other posters that they are bad moms for doing differently ... you're going to have to provide some actual evidence, or you will be roundly chided. If you just want opinions, stick with Babycenter.
Thank you for sharing! And best wishes to you and your baby.
Anonymous
10/22/2018 11:36
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
AGAIN, each parent has COMPLETE authority to feed her baby however she wants.
Considering the fact that this is a DISCUSSION board, please stop trying to silence any discussion.
Each opinion may be expressed. And again, each parent may choose what is best for her newborn baby. -OP
Friendly reminder:
All are welcomed here to express different opinions.
Yeah, not so much. If you couch your opinion in the guise of "fact" and "science" and tell other posters that they are bad moms for doing differently ... you're going to have to provide some actual evidence, or you will be roundly chided. If you just want opinions, stick with Babycenter.
Anonymous
10/22/2018 11:33
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:
AGAIN, each parent has COMPLETE authority to feed her baby however she wants.
Considering the fact that this is a DISCUSSION board, please stop trying to silence any discussion.
Each opinion may be expressed. And again, each parent may choose what is best for her newborn baby. -OP
Friendly reminder:
All are welcomed here to express different opinions.
Anonymous
10/22/2018 11:31
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
"Peter Wolff, a well-known pediatrician and researcher who completed countless studies of newborns and their behavior, observed that temperature has an important effect on the amount of time babies sleep and on their crying. Babies kept at warmer temperatures, he found, cried less and slept more than those subjected to cooler environments."
Obviously, do NOT overheat.
Wondering if there may be a correlation between your baby's sleep difficulties and the fairly recent practice giving babies bottles that haven't been warmed. Am also thinking that warming the bottle may reduce the risk of colic.
It doesn't appear that the above pediatrician is spouting old wives tales, much to the chagrin of the hostile poster.
the quote from the "above pediatrician" is A) outdated and does not take into account SIDS concerns with overheating and B) says f-all about the heat of formula.
Anonymous
10/22/2018 11:29
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:In Scandinavian countries, outdoor napping is a thing for babies:
https://activeforlife.com/outdoor-napping-for-babies/
This is a great link. Thank you!
Anonymous
10/22/2018 11:28
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
"Peter Wolff, a well-known pediatrician and researcher who completed countless studies of newborns and their behavior, observed that temperature has an important effect on the amount of time babies sleep and on their crying. Babies kept at warmer temperatures, he found, cried less and slept more than those subjected to cooler environments."
Obviously, do NOT overheat.
Wondering if there may be a correlation between your baby's sleep difficulties and the fairly recent practice giving babies bottles that haven't been warmed. Am also thinking that warming the bottle may reduce the risk of colic.
It doesn't appear that the above pediatrician is spouting old wives tales, much to the chagrin of the hostile poster.
But he isn't saying you need to heat up bottles of formula. He's saying babies sleep deeper in warmer environments- which is true, and is thought to be one of the reasons for SIDS actually. It doesn't have anything to do with YOUR old wives tale that you bring up in the next paragraph.
Anonymous
10/22/2018 11:26
Subject: Re:The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:Just posting quick to say I'm going to stop responding in hopes that this thread dies, since OP won't answer why she is making these underhanded comments about room temp (not "cold", as she keeps changing the wording to, as part of her shaming tactics) bottles being not optimal for babies.
His/her warmth fetish is so insistent it seems like it may actually be...a fetish. Ick.
Anonymous
10/22/2018 11:24
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:
"Peter Wolff, a well-known pediatrician and researcher who completed countless studies of newborns and their behavior, observed that temperature has an important effect on the amount of time babies sleep and on their crying. Babies kept at warmer temperatures, he found, cried less and slept more than those subjected to cooler environments."
Obviously, do NOT overheat.
Wondering if there may be a correlation between your baby's sleep difficulties and the fairly recent practice giving babies bottles that haven't been warmed. Am also thinking that warming the bottle may reduce the risk of colic.
It doesn't appear that the above pediatrician is spouting old wives tales, much to the chagrin of the hostile poster.
Anonymous
10/22/2018 11:23
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
"Peter Wolff, a well-known pediatrician and researcher who completed countless studies of newborns and their behavior, observed that temperature has an important effect on the amount of time babies sleep and on their crying. Babies kept at warmer temperatures, he found, cried less and slept more than those subjected to cooler environments."
Obviously, do NOT overheat.
Wondering if there may be a correlation between your baby's sleep difficulties and the fairly recent practice giving babies bottles that haven't been warmed. Am also thinking that warming the bottle may reduce the risk of colic.
This thread is about optimal temperatures for babies, not about formula vs breastfeeding.
Please see above. -OP
It's about warming formula vs not warming it, as you clearly state in the bolded part. Try to keep up with your own posts.
I'm putting forth questions. Do you have something stuck somewhere? You are WELCOME to share your thoughts. Now, see how nicely that works?
i did share them, and said there is no medical basis for what you've proposed. you pushed back about how we probably shouldn't ever warm any of our food up then if it's such a hassle, along with other eyeroll-inducing comments. it's clear that you aren't posing questions, your pushing a bizarre and unscientific viewpoint on other moms for no apparent reason other than to entertain yourself.
Anonymous
10/22/2018 11:21
Subject: Re:The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Just posting quick to say I'm going to stop responding in hopes that this thread dies, since OP won't answer why she is making these underhanded comments about room temp (not "cold", as she keeps changing the wording to, as part of her shaming tactics) bottles being not optimal for babies.
Anonymous
10/22/2018 11:21
Subject: The Importance of Warmth for your Baby
Anonymous wrote:The hostility is not welcomed here, 11:06. Calm down.
I think the "hostility" is very much on point. The OP of this thread has a bizarre and aggressive agenda to shame moms, using an old wives' tale with zero evidence to back it up. She needs to explain her motivations.