Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Jokes about black people and Muslims happen all the time. See the Boris Johnson thread. Yet, he will continue to be considered a very serious person and Trump will still support him and you folks will support Trump. Trump, by the way, says even worse things and isn’t joking.
Who are “you folks?” I don’t support Trump; I think his tweets are vile. So are Sarah Jeong’s. If Trump’s behavior is the new standard for liberals, only changing the object of mockery/hate, then they’ve lost.
I clearly said that Trump isn’t joking. It is sadly not surprising that you are unable to distinguish between serious statements by a president and humorous mockery by Jeong. The lack of self-awareness by many white people is extraordinary.
And would you ever have made a comment such as this against blacks or Muslims if blacks or Muslims disagreed with YOU on a point? But you are demonstrating the very thing that the NYT did by keeping the racist employed on the editorial staff - that nasty digs against white people are just dandy.
And your insistence that it is humorous mockery by Jeong is merely your opinion. You state it as if it's a fact. Most people realize that the extreme content of her remarks, and the length of time she kept up her onslaught, show it was more than a mere mockery, much as you would like to believe that.
And why did she have to take out her hatred against cops? Did you read her disgusting crap she tweeted about them?
There you go with another display of a lack of self-awareness. My statement referred to “many” white people, specifically you. Yet, you ignore that qualifier and act like you wouldn’t defend criticism of some black people or some Muslims. It is cluelessness such as yours that makes mockery such as Jeong’s both easy and biting.
What the PP is saying is the reverse: that no criticism of some Muslim folk and Black folk is tolerated here.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Jokes about black people and Muslims happen all the time. See the Boris Johnson thread. Yet, he will continue to be considered a very serious person and Trump will still support him and you folks will support Trump. Trump, by the way, says even worse things and isn’t joking.
Who are “you folks?” I don’t support Trump; I think his tweets are vile. So are Sarah Jeong’s. If Trump’s behavior is the new standard for liberals, only changing the object of mockery/hate, then they’ve lost.
I clearly said that Trump isn’t joking. It is sadly not surprising that you are unable to distinguish between serious statements by a president and humorous mockery by Jeong. The lack of self-awareness by many white people is extraordinary.
And would you ever have made a comment such as this against blacks or Muslims if blacks or Muslims disagreed with YOU on a point? But you are demonstrating the very thing that the NYT did by keeping the racist employed on the editorial staff - that nasty digs against white people are just dandy.
And your insistence that it is humorous mockery by Jeong is merely your opinion. You state it as if it's a fact. Most people realize that the extreme content of her remarks, and the length of time she kept up her onslaught, show it was more than a mere mockery, much as you would like to believe that.
And why did she have to take out her hatred against cops? Did you read her disgusting crap she tweeted about them?
There you go with another display of a lack of self-awareness. My statement referred to “many” white people, specifically you. Yet, you ignore that qualifier and act like you wouldn’t defend criticism of some black people or some Muslims. It is cluelessness such as yours that makes mockery such as Jeong’s both easy and biting.
Unbelievable. So because I refuse to submit to your delusional spin on this topic, and will not defer to SOME liberals' excuse that a woman who tweets hateful, venomous anti-white rhetoric for years is merely a comedian, I am lacking self-awareness? That is so typical of so many liberals. When you come up against people who disagree with what is a ridiculous interpretation on your part, start in with the personal insults.
You really aren't one who should be accusing other people of lacking self-awareness. The fact that you don't see the double standard with this - and have made attempt after attempt to justify racism (when it's against whites) is mind-boggling.
One thing I have noticed: other than you, only a couple of extreme leftists have come out to defend the NYT racist. They realize how impossible it is to justify, and how blatant the double standard is. They have steered clear of this thread.
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Jokes about black people and Muslims happen all the time. See the Boris Johnson thread. Yet, he will continue to be considered a very serious person and Trump will still support him and you folks will support Trump. Trump, by the way, says even worse things and isn’t joking.
Who are “you folks?” I don’t support Trump; I think his tweets are vile. So are Sarah Jeong’s. If Trump’s behavior is the new standard for liberals, only changing the object of mockery/hate, then they’ve lost.
I clearly said that Trump isn’t joking. It is sadly not surprising that you are unable to distinguish between serious statements by a president and humorous mockery by Jeong. The lack of self-awareness by many white people is extraordinary.
And would you ever have made a comment such as this against blacks or Muslims if blacks or Muslims disagreed with YOU on a point? But you are demonstrating the very thing that the NYT did by keeping the racist employed on the editorial staff - that nasty digs against white people are just dandy.
And your insistence that it is humorous mockery by Jeong is merely your opinion. You state it as if it's a fact. Most people realize that the extreme content of her remarks, and the length of time she kept up her onslaught, show it was more than a mere mockery, much as you would like to believe that.
And why did she have to take out her hatred against cops? Did you read her disgusting crap she tweeted about them?
There you go with another display of a lack of self-awareness. My statement referred to “many” white people, specifically you. Yet, you ignore that qualifier and act like you wouldn’t defend criticism of some black people or some Muslims. It is cluelessness such as yours that makes mockery such as Jeong’s both easy and biting.
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Jokes about black people and Muslims happen all the time. See the Boris Johnson thread. Yet, he will continue to be considered a very serious person and Trump will still support him and you folks will support Trump. Trump, by the way, says even worse things and isn’t joking.
Who are “you folks?” I don’t support Trump; I think his tweets are vile. So are Sarah Jeong’s. If Trump’s behavior is the new standard for liberals, only changing the object of mockery/hate, then they’ve lost.
I clearly said that Trump isn’t joking. It is sadly not surprising that you are unable to distinguish between serious statements by a president and humorous mockery by Jeong. The lack of self-awareness by many white people is extraordinary.
And would you ever have made a comment such as this against blacks or Muslims if blacks or Muslims disagreed with YOU on a point? But you are demonstrating the very thing that the NYT did by keeping the racist employed on the editorial staff - that nasty digs against white people are just dandy.
And your insistence that it is humorous mockery by Jeong is merely your opinion. You state it as if it's a fact. Most people realize that the extreme content of her remarks, and the length of time she kept up her onslaught, show it was more than a mere mockery, much as you would like to believe that.
And why did she have to take out her hatred against cops? Did you read her disgusting crap she tweeted about them?
There you go with another display of a lack of self-awareness. My statement referred to “many” white people, specifically you. Yet, you ignore that qualifier and act like you wouldn’t defend criticism of some black people or some Muslims. It is cluelessness such as yours that makes mockery such as Jeong’s both easy and biting.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Jokes about black people and Muslims happen all the time. See the Boris Johnson thread. Yet, he will continue to be considered a very serious person and Trump will still support him and you folks will support Trump. Trump, by the way, says even worse things and isn’t joking.
Who are “you folks?” I don’t support Trump; I think his tweets are vile. So are Sarah Jeong’s. If Trump’s behavior is the new standard for liberals, only changing the object of mockery/hate, then they’ve lost.
I clearly said that Trump isn’t joking. It is sadly not surprising that you are unable to distinguish between serious statements by a president and humorous mockery by Jeong. The lack of self-awareness by many white people is extraordinary.
And would you ever have made a comment such as this against blacks or Muslims if blacks or Muslims disagreed with YOU on a point? But you are demonstrating the very thing that the NYT did by keeping the racist employed on the editorial staff - that nasty digs against white people are just dandy.
And your insistence that it is humorous mockery by Jeong is merely your opinion. You state it as if it's a fact. Most people realize that the extreme content of her remarks, and the length of time she kept up her onslaught, show it was more than a mere mockery, much as you would like to believe that.
And why did she have to take out her hatred against cops? Did you read her disgusting crap she tweeted about them?
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Jokes about black people and Muslims happen all the time. See the Boris Johnson thread. Yet, he will continue to be considered a very serious person and Trump will still support him and you folks will support Trump. Trump, by the way, says even worse things and isn’t joking.
Who are “you folks?” I don’t support Trump; I think his tweets are vile. So are Sarah Jeong’s. If Trump’s behavior is the new standard for liberals, only changing the object of mockery/hate, then they’ve lost.
Yup. What has happened here is more than a double standard. It's condemning racism on one hand while justifying or excusing it on the other. Only the object of the hate speech determines whether it should be condemned or excused, apparently.
I dispute your definition of hate speech. Jeong wasn’t engaging in hate speech. Therefore I am not excusing hate speech.
Actual hate speech gets excused by many of you all the time. Just look at the posts defending Trump earlier in this thread.
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Jokes about black people and Muslims happen all the time. See the Boris Johnson thread. Yet, he will continue to be considered a very serious person and Trump will still support him and you folks will support Trump. Trump, by the way, says even worse things and isn’t joking.
Who are “you folks?” I don’t support Trump; I think his tweets are vile. So are Sarah Jeong’s. If Trump’s behavior is the new standard for liberals, only changing the object of mockery/hate, then they’ve lost.
I clearly said that Trump isn’t joking. It is sadly not surprising that you are unable to distinguish between serious statements by a president and humorous mockery by Jeong. The lack of self-awareness by many white people is extraordinary.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Jokes about black people and Muslims happen all the time. See the Boris Johnson thread. Yet, he will continue to be considered a very serious person and Trump will still support him and you folks will support Trump. Trump, by the way, says even worse things and isn’t joking.
Who are “you folks?” I don’t support Trump; I think his tweets are vile. So are Sarah Jeong’s. If Trump’s behavior is the new standard for liberals, only changing the object of mockery/hate, then they’ve lost.
Yup. What has happened here is more than a double standard. It's condemning racism on one hand while justifying or excusing it on the other. Only the object of the hate speech determines whether it should be condemned or excused, apparently.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Jokes about black people and Muslims happen all the time. See the Boris Johnson thread. Yet, he will continue to be considered a very serious person and Trump will still support him and you folks will support Trump. Trump, by the way, says even worse things and isn’t joking.
Who are “you folks?” I don’t support Trump; I think his tweets are vile. So are Sarah Jeong’s. If Trump’s behavior is the new standard for liberals, only changing the object of mockery/hate, then they’ve lost.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Jokes about black people and Muslims happen all the time. See the Boris Johnson thread. Yet, he will continue to be considered a very serious person and Trump will still support him and you folks will support Trump. Trump, by the way, says even worse things and isn’t joking.
Who are “you folks?” I don’t support Trump; I think his tweets are vile. So are Sarah Jeong’s. If Trump’s behavior is the new standard for liberals, only changing the object of mockery/hate, then they’ve lost.
jsteele wrote:Jokes about black people and Muslims happen all the time. See the Boris Johnson thread. Yet, he will continue to be considered a very serious person and Trump will still support him and you folks will support Trump. Trump, by the way, says even worse things and isn’t joking.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the PP right above, your very good response got lost in the quote.
To reiterate, Jeff has cherry-picked a couple of tweets to redirect this discussion away from the fact that this racist went on a 2-year spree of tweeting angry, hostile comments about white people.
And by the way, did Jeff every apologize for telling that poster she was wrong about her 2-year tweeting spree? He said it was a false accusation, and he was proven wrong.
Show us, Jeff, that you can admit when you're wrong.
It's hilarious that you accuse me of cherry-picking when the entire attack on Jeong has been based on cherry-picking. You do realize that tweet was one that Candace Owens chose to modify and tweet, resulting in this thread. It was also one that Sullivan used in his attack on Jeong, apparently not realizing that it was lampooning him. I guess when Owens or Sullivan select a tweet completely out of context, it is fine with you. When I choose the same tweet, it's cherry-picking.
Moreover, I did not tell a poster that she was wrong about a 2-year tweeting spree. I asked her to present evidence to support her allegation. I did not say it was a false accusation, but rather I said that if she could not support her accusation, I would delete it for being false. So, now you should apologize for making false allegations about me.
You said proved proof that she tweeted over two years or I will delete your post because it is false. She proved it was NOT false, and you are STILL unable to say "sorry, you were right." Have you ever admitted to a conservative that you were wrong about anything, at any time, over all these years?
Yes, I frequently admit being wrong. In this case, the original allegation is that she had tweeted hateful tweets for years. Two years is technically "years" I guess, so that part is true. However, I still dispute that the tweets were hateful. I think the tweets were sarcasm and mockery and not motivated by hate, but rather as a means of making a point.
Her hateful, sorry - “sarcastic and mocking” tweets continue into 2017.
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the PP right above, your very good response got lost in the quote.
To reiterate, Jeff has cherry-picked a couple of tweets to redirect this discussion away from the fact that this racist went on a 2-year spree of tweeting angry, hostile comments about white people.
And by the way, did Jeff every apologize for telling that poster she was wrong about her 2-year tweeting spree? He said it was a false accusation, and he was proven wrong.
Show us, Jeff, that you can admit when you're wrong.
It's hilarious that you accuse me of cherry-picking when the entire attack on Jeong has been based on cherry-picking. You do realize that tweet was one that Candace Owens chose to modify and tweet, resulting in this thread. It was also one that Sullivan used in his attack on Jeong, apparently not realizing that it was lampooning him. I guess when Owens or Sullivan select a tweet completely out of context, it is fine with you. When I choose the same tweet, it's cherry-picking.
Moreover, I did not tell a poster that she was wrong about a 2-year tweeting spree. I asked her to present evidence to support her allegation. I did not say it was a false accusation, but rather I said that if she could not support her accusation, I would delete it for being false. So, now you should apologize for making false allegations about me.
You said proved proof that she tweeted over two years or I will delete your post because it is false. She proved it was NOT false, and you are STILL unable to say "sorry, you were right." Have you ever admitted to a conservative that you were wrong about anything, at any time, over all these years?
Yes, I frequently admit being wrong. In this case, the original allegation is that she had tweeted hateful tweets for years. Two years is technically "years" I guess, so that part is true. However, I still dispute that the tweets were hateful. I think the tweets were sarcasm and mockery and not motivated by hate, but rather as a means of making a point.