Anonymous
08/05/2018 19:07
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
I’m not sure why people are attacking the poster who paid $1 million + for her home. If anyone has it they will spend the money to do what’s best for their children. DH and I inherited his family home in the county and we also fortunately don’t have to worry about kids who come to school unprepared or lack English skills. For those of you attacking the previous poster, there are 24 hours in a day, stop spending your time on here attacking people and start a small business or pick up a side job. This will net you extra income to move into a more desirous neighborhood. If you can’t do that then supplement at home. Here’s what people don’t understand, the wealthy & upper middle class will ALWAYS supplement with enrichment ——-be it in private school, the W schools or any other MCPS school. Enrichment is not just a tutor, it is traveling, new learning experiences and structure.
Anonymous
08/05/2018 18:13
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Close the achievement gap by making the curriculum linear rather than age-based. Each child must meet certain milestones and then is moved to the next level. Obviously, the first level will involve skills that are typically learned before school. We don't freak out if more kids of color or immigrants are in those more basic classes. It is not enlightened or compassionate to move kids up through the grades without basic skills. Test and move kids up frequently. Obviously we will need some divisions by age groupings but EVERYONE starts with the basic level and then moves through the curriculum. If a kid moves here with no skills at 14, they enter a vocational program, not the college track. Extensively use parent or community volunteers to provide one on one teaching to kids in the lower level. All hands on deck to help as many kids as possible.
This would never happen because all of the poor kids would be at the bottom and many of them are minorities so people would call this racist practices. Maybe we should go back to the day when there were zero expectations for a child when they showed up in KG. It's okay that students can't ______________. Now, if a kid shows up in KG and isn't on reading behaviors, they are already below grade level. I've had some interesting conversations with parents at mt Title 1 school when they learn that their child who just started school is already below grade level. Most of them had no idea that they were "supposed" to do anything to prepare them for KG. They don't know how much school has changed since they were there.
Not understanding your point. This is the way it is now. When my kid was in K, she was bored out of her mind (along with some other kids in the classroom) because they were waiting for the other kids who didn't know their colors, numbers, shapes, etc. to catch up.
This is one of the big reasons we paid 1.9mil for our home in a high achievers suburb. Most of the class is above grade level and it is the teachers trying to catch up. I simply don’t want to normalize low expectations or poor behavior while saying “they have a tough home life”. My kids don’t and need different structure and are not there to balance the systems test scores in some meh neighborhood. They can learn empathy later if they need to.
If you have that much money, why aren't your kids in private school? Amateur.
Anonymous
08/05/2018 17:52
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Close the achievement gap by making the curriculum linear rather than age-based. Each child must meet certain milestones and then is moved to the next level. Obviously, the first level will involve skills that are typically learned before school. We don't freak out if more kids of color or immigrants are in those more basic classes. It is not enlightened or compassionate to move kids up through the grades without basic skills. Test and move kids up frequently. Obviously we will need some divisions by age groupings but EVERYONE starts with the basic level and then moves through the curriculum. If a kid moves here with no skills at 14, they enter a vocational program, not the college track. Extensively use parent or community volunteers to provide one on one teaching to kids in the lower level. All hands on deck to help as many kids as possible.
This would never happen because all of the poor kids would be at the bottom and many of them are minorities so people would call this racist practices. Maybe we should go back to the day when there were zero expectations for a child when they showed up in KG. It's okay that students can't ______________. Now, if a kid shows up in KG and isn't on reading behaviors, they are already below grade level. I've had some interesting conversations with parents at mt Title 1 school when they learn that their child who just started school is already below grade level. Most of them had no idea that they were "supposed" to do anything to prepare them for KG. They don't know how much school has changed since they were there.
Not understanding your point. This is the way it is now. When my kid was in K, she was bored out of her mind (along with some other kids in the classroom) because they were waiting for the other kids who didn't know their colors, numbers, shapes, etc. to catch up.
This is one of the big reasons we paid 1.9mil for our home in a high achievers suburb. Most of the class is above grade level and it is the teachers trying to catch up. I simply don’t want to normalize low expectations or poor behavior while saying “they have a tough home life”. My kids don’t and need different structure and are not there to balance the systems test scores in some meh neighborhood. They can learn empathy later if they need to.
Not all those families got their houses by high achievement. Some cannot afford it, some have family money, etc. Maybe you should have paid 1 Mil and sent your kids to private. Or, send them now. You can clearly afford it as a high achiever.
Anonymous
08/05/2018 17:24
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Close the achievement gap by making the curriculum linear rather than age-based. Each child must meet certain milestones and then is moved to the next level. Obviously, the first level will involve skills that are typically learned before school. We don't freak out if more kids of color or immigrants are in those more basic classes. It is not enlightened or compassionate to move kids up through the grades without basic skills. Test and move kids up frequently. Obviously we will need some divisions by age groupings but EVERYONE starts with the basic level and then moves through the curriculum. If a kid moves here with no skills at 14, they enter a vocational program, not the college track. Extensively use parent or community volunteers to provide one on one teaching to kids in the lower level. All hands on deck to help as many kids as possible.
This would never happen because all of the poor kids would be at the bottom and many of them are minorities so people would call this racist practices. Maybe we should go back to the day when there were zero expectations for a child when they showed up in KG. It's okay that students can't ______________. Now, if a kid shows up in KG and isn't on reading behaviors, they are already below grade level. I've had some interesting conversations with parents at mt Title 1 school when they learn that their child who just started school is already below grade level. Most of them had no idea that they were "supposed" to do anything to prepare them for KG. They don't know how much school has changed since they were there.
Not understanding your point. This is the way it is now. When my kid was in K, she was bored out of her mind (along with some other kids in the classroom) because they were waiting for the other kids who didn't know their colors, numbers, shapes, etc. to catch up.
This is one of the big reasons we paid 1.9mil for our home in a high achievers suburb. Most of the class is above grade level and it is the teachers trying to catch up. I simply don’t want to normalize low expectations or poor behavior while saying “they have a tough home life”. My kids don’t and need different structure and are not there to balance the systems test scores in some meh neighborhood. They can learn empathy later if they need to.
I'm glad you had that much money but honestly around here you do not need to pay that much for a high achiever suburb unless your only definition of such is either Bethesda or Potomac. We paid 750K for ours in neither one of these 2 areas but yet our kids attend a school that are filled with high achieving students.
Anonymous
08/05/2018 17:19
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Close the achievement gap by making the curriculum linear rather than age-based. Each child must meet certain milestones and then is moved to the next level. Obviously, the first level will involve skills that are typically learned before school. We don't freak out if more kids of color or immigrants are in those more basic classes. It is not enlightened or compassionate to move kids up through the grades without basic skills. Test and move kids up frequently. Obviously we will need some divisions by age groupings but EVERYONE starts with the basic level and then moves through the curriculum. If a kid moves here with no skills at 14, they enter a vocational program, not the college track. Extensively use parent or community volunteers to provide one on one teaching to kids in the lower level. All hands on deck to help as many kids as possible.
This would never happen because all of the poor kids would be at the bottom and many of them are minorities so people would call this racist practices. Maybe we should go back to the day when there were zero expectations for a child when they showed up in KG. It's okay that students can't ______________. Now, if a kid shows up in KG and isn't on reading behaviors, they are already below grade level. I've had some interesting conversations with parents at mt Title 1 school when they learn that their child who just started school is already below grade level. Most of them had no idea that they were "supposed" to do anything to prepare them for KG. They don't know how much school has changed since they were there.
Not understanding your point. This is the way it is now. When my kid was in K, she was bored out of her mind (along with some other kids in the classroom) because they were waiting for the other kids who didn't know their colors, numbers, shapes, etc. to catch up.
This is one of the big reasons we paid 1.9mil for our home in a high achievers suburb. Most of the class is above grade level and it is the teachers trying to catch up. I simply don’t want to normalize low expectations or poor behavior while saying “they have a tough home life”. My kids don’t and need different structure and are not there to balance the systems test scores in some meh neighborhood. They can learn empathy later if they need to.
Would you say that you learned empathy later, PP?
Anonymous
08/05/2018 17:16
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Close the achievement gap by making the curriculum linear rather than age-based. Each child must meet certain milestones and then is moved to the next level. Obviously, the first level will involve skills that are typically learned before school. We don't freak out if more kids of color or immigrants are in those more basic classes. It is not enlightened or compassionate to move kids up through the grades without basic skills. Test and move kids up frequently. Obviously we will need some divisions by age groupings but EVERYONE starts with the basic level and then moves through the curriculum. If a kid moves here with no skills at 14, they enter a vocational program, not the college track. Extensively use parent or community volunteers to provide one on one teaching to kids in the lower level. All hands on deck to help as many kids as possible.
This would never happen because all of the poor kids would be at the bottom and many of them are minorities so people would call this racist practices. Maybe we should go back to the day when there were zero expectations for a child when they showed up in KG. It's okay that students can't ______________. Now, if a kid shows up in KG and isn't on reading behaviors, they are already below grade level. I've had some interesting conversations with parents at mt Title 1 school when they learn that their child who just started school is already below grade level. Most of them had no idea that they were "supposed" to do anything to prepare them for KG. They don't know how much school has changed since they were there.
Not understanding your point. This is the way it is now. When my kid was in K, she was bored out of her mind (along with some other kids in the classroom) because they were waiting for the other kids who didn't know their colors, numbers, shapes, etc. to catch up.
This is one of the big reasons we paid 1.9mil for our home in a high achievers suburb. Most of the class is above grade level and it is the teachers trying to catch up. I simply don’t want to normalize low expectations or poor behavior while saying “they have a tough home life”. My kids don’t and need different structure and are not there to balance the systems test scores in some meh neighborhood. They can learn empathy later if they need to.
Anonymous
08/05/2018 16:19
Subject: Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
Anonymous wrote:MCPS has Saturday school for all kids.
Yes, that is true. And so therefore...?
Anonymous
08/05/2018 15:32
Subject: Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
MCPS has Saturday school for all kids.
Anonymous
08/05/2018 15:12
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Close the achievement gap by making the curriculum linear rather than age-based. Each child must meet certain milestones and then is moved to the next level. Obviously, the first level will involve skills that are typically learned before school. We don't freak out if more kids of color or immigrants are in those more basic classes. It is not enlightened or compassionate to move kids up through the grades without basic skills. Test and move kids up frequently. Obviously we will need some divisions by age groupings but EVERYONE starts with the basic level and then moves through the curriculum. If a kid moves here with no skills at 14, they enter a vocational program, not the college track. Extensively use parent or community volunteers to provide one on one teaching to kids in the lower level. All hands on deck to help as many kids as possible.
I would be down for this.
I also think it's a reasonable idea.
Anonymous
08/04/2018 21:41
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My admins sure do go crazy when they see our beginning of year test results for kindergarten. If there was no expectation for students, they would have no reason to. Maybe we should tell them to chill out because DCUMs think there are no expectations for our students at the beginning of the year.
At our Focus school our admins dont go crazy about this. They expect that there will be varying ability levels.
It's because they are reasonable people who understand this.
Anonymous
08/04/2018 21:02
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
Anonymous wrote:My admins sure do go crazy when they see our beginning of year test results for kindergarten. If there was no expectation for students, they would have no reason to. Maybe we should tell them to chill out because DCUMs think there are no expectations for our students at the beginning of the year.
At our Focus school our admins dont go crazy about this. They expect that there will be varying ability levels.
Anonymous
08/04/2018 18:33
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
My admins sure do go crazy when they see our beginning of year test results for kindergarten. If there was no expectation for students, they would have no reason to. Maybe we should tell them to chill out because DCUMs think there are no expectations for our students at the beginning of the year.
Anonymous
08/04/2018 15:17
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Close the achievement gap by making the curriculum linear rather than age-based. Each child must meet certain milestones and then is moved to the next level. Obviously, the first level will involve skills that are typically learned before school. We don't freak out if more kids of color or immigrants are in those more basic classes. It is not enlightened or compassionate to move kids up through the grades without basic skills. Test and move kids up frequently. Obviously we will need some divisions by age groupings but EVERYONE starts with the basic level and then moves through the curriculum. If a kid moves here with no skills at 14, they enter a vocational program, not the college track. Extensively use parent or community volunteers to provide one on one teaching to kids in the lower level. All hands on deck to help as many kids as possible.
This would never happen because all of the poor kids would be at the bottom and many of them are minorities so people would call this racist practices. Maybe we should go back to the day when there were zero expectations for a child when they showed up in KG. It's okay that students can't ______________. Now, if a kid shows up in KG and isn't on reading behaviors, they are already below grade level. I've had some interesting conversations with parents at mt Title 1 school when they learn that their child who just started school is already below grade level. Most of them had no idea that they were "supposed" to do anything to prepare them for KG. They don't know how much school has changed since they were there.
Not understanding your point. This is the way it is now. When my kid was in K, she was bored out of her mind (along with some other kids in the classroom) because they were waiting for the other kids who didn't know their colors, numbers, shapes, etc. to catch up.
Then there wasn't enough differentiation in the instruction. My son entered K reading on level 10 and was reading on a level K at the end of the year. He had small group guided reading instruction most days even though he was far above grade level. He was engaged in learning and his teacher challenged him and didn't let him be lazy. Nobody should be waiting around for other kids to catch up. This is why teaching elementary is so difficult--classes are not homogenous in any way and the teacher needs to find a way to meet the needs of every student.
Ok great.. so obviously there wasn't any expectation for a child to __________ by the time they reach K. Sounds like the teacher did a good job differentiating and handling the kids who entered the classroom with varying levels of abilities. So going back to my point- there is NO expectation.
Anonymous
08/04/2018 14:51
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on another DCUM thread asking what gift to get for her rising 1st grade kid’s summer reading tutor (75$/hr, 3 sessions a week). How will that kid perform compared to a kid whose parent has had him watching TV most of the day so they can go to work? Summer slide is a real thing, particularly for low income kids and I think this pilot is a great way to test whether extended year schooling could help improve educational outcomes.
Like I posted upthread, extending the school year will not recreate the summer or academic experience of the MC or UMC. You need an approach that provides summer enrichment and activities that those with means choose for their kids and that those without means can never access. Not more basic school. And it should be for just the kids who qualify based on income, not everyone who happens to attend that school. Better target the funds so the money goes only to those who need the extra boost.
I don’t get that logic. Schools are there to provide enrichment and camp like activities. If kids are struggling with reading and writing and arithmetic, 30 extra days in school gives them a much greater chance to meet proficiency standards.
Anonymous
08/04/2018 14:43
Subject: Re:Extended School Year Approved for 2 MoCo Elementary Schools
Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on another DCUM thread asking what gift to get for her rising 1st grade kid’s summer reading tutor (75$/hr, 3 sessions a week). How will that kid perform compared to a kid whose parent has had him watching TV most of the day so they can go to work? Summer slide is a real thing, particularly for low income kids and I think this pilot is a great way to test whether extended year schooling could help improve educational outcomes.
Like I posted upthread, extending the school year will not recreate the summer or academic experience of the MC or UMC. You need an approach that provides summer enrichment and activities that those with means choose for their kids and that those without means can never access. Not more basic school. And it should be for just the kids who qualify based on income, not everyone who happens to attend that school. Better target the funds so the money goes only to those who need the extra boost.