Anonymous
Post 08/04/2018 16:34     Subject: Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ and Maggie Walker are the only two schools in NoVa which are in the top 100 public HS in the country
https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/virginia-dc-100-best-public-high-schools-new-list-released


Richmond is not NoVa.

Looks like seven of the top 10 in the state are FCPS.


Top #10 in NoVa per Niche:

Thomas Jefferson High School for Science & Technology
McLean High School
Woodson High School
Oakton High School
Washington Lee High School
Madison High School
Chantilly High School
Langley High School
Stone Bridge High School
Briar Woods High School


Niche is not a legitimate source.
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2018 15:42     Subject: Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ and Maggie Walker are the only two schools in NoVa which are in the top 100 public HS in the country
https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/virginia-dc-100-best-public-high-schools-new-list-released


Richmond is not NoVa.

Looks like seven of the top 10 in the state are FCPS.


Top #10 in NoVa per Niche:

Thomas Jefferson High School for Science & Technology
McLean High School
Woodson High School
Oakton High School
Washington Lee High School
Madison High School
Chantilly High School
Langley High School
Stone Bridge High School
Briar Woods High School
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2018 12:16     Subject: Re:Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Challenge Index hasn't been updated this year. This is a more recent assessment of the top high schools in the state.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia


It is not a better list, it is a different list.


It’s open to debate whether it’s a better methodology.

It is a fact that it was published more recently.


Yes. It is a list that is published more recently. But, it is a crap list: it ranks on a college readiness index they define, only they throw out certain schools because a sub-group does badly. I am sorry if one group does bad, but if the overall college readiness index says 75%, it should be listed in the place as 75%. Skip the gold medal, maybe....


It's not a crap list because it declines to rank schools that are doing a below-average job with their minority and low-income students (Yorktown and Madison being the prime examples). People pay attention to the US News ratings and maybe this will give those schools an incentive to do better.

If you want a list that goes solely by college readiness (students both taking and passing AP/IB courses), you can look at the E&E rating on the Washington Post site. The top 10 NoVa public schools by E&E rating (TJHSST is not ranked because it's a magnet) are:

1. George Mason
2. H-B Woodlawn
3. Langley
4. McLean
5. Madison
6. Yorktown
7. Marshall
8. Oakton
9. Robinson
10. Woodson

Anonymous
Post 08/04/2018 11:46     Subject: Re:Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Challenge Index hasn't been updated this year. This is a more recent assessment of the top high schools in the state.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia


It is not a better list, it is a different list.


It’s open to debate whether it’s a better methodology.

It is a fact that it was published more recently.


Yes. It is a list that is published more recently. But, it is a crap list: it ranks on a college readiness index they define, only they throw out certain schools because a sub-group does badly. I am sorry if one group does bad, but if the overall college readiness index says 75%, it should be listed in the place as 75%. Skip the gold medal, maybe....
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2018 09:51     Subject: Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
Anonymous wrote:TJ and Maggie Walker are the only two schools in NoVa which are in the top 100 public HS in the country
https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/virginia-dc-100-best-public-high-schools-new-list-released


This list is from Niche.

Niche is not a real/legit ranking, so this list does not belong here.
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2018 09:50     Subject: Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
Anonymous wrote:TJ and Maggie Walker are the only two schools in NoVa which are in the top 100 public HS in the country
https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/virginia-dc-100-best-public-high-schools-new-list-released


Maggie Walker is not northern VA.

It is Richmond.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2018 19:09     Subject: Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
Anonymous wrote:TJ and Maggie Walker are the only two schools in NoVa which are in the top 100 public HS in the country
https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/virginia-dc-100-best-public-high-schools-new-list-released


Richmond is not NoVa.

Looks like seven of the top 10 in the state are FCPS.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2018 18:38     Subject: Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
Does anyone have children in Maggie Walker?
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2018 18:37     Subject: Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
TJ and Maggie Walker are the only two schools in NoVa which are in the top 100 public HS in the country
https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/virginia-dc-100-best-public-high-schools-new-list-released
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2018 00:04     Subject: Re:Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
I dont see Chantilly HS mentioned here enough - why
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2018 18:05     Subject: Re:Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Challenge Index hasn't been updated this year. This is a more recent assessment of the top high schools in the state.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia


It is not a better list, it is a different list.


It’s open to debate whether it’s a better methodology.

It is a fact that it was published more recently.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2018 17:47     Subject: Re:Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
Anonymous wrote:The Challenge Index hasn't been updated this year. This is a more recent assessment of the top high schools in the state.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia


It is not a better list, it is a different list.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2018 17:40     Subject: Re:Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
The Challenge Index hasn't been updated this year. This is a more recent assessment of the top high schools in the state.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2018 16:22     Subject: Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to the 2017 Washington Post Challenge Index:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/high-school-challenge-2017/?noredirect=on



The challenge index only counts the AP/IB classes taken by SENIORS. It is an index that can be used for comparisons, but you have to understand its limitations. AP classes, are frequently taken by juniors and sophomores as well. Also, the challenge index doesn't make any measure of HOW WELL those kids do on AP exams -- i.e. pass or fail them? Some schools have a lot of kids taking AP classes, but they don't pass them. Jay Matthews would say that passing the exam isn't the point b/c the value in AP classes is in exposing kids to that level of academic rigor, and then they are more likely to go to college.

But, if you are comparing the quality of the teaching or the quality of the student body (re: academic prowess), you would want to start with a standard curriculum and then look for results (i.e. passing or not).

As with all measuring sticks -- you have to understand what it is measuring. The challenge index has some value -- but it is not the last word.


The challenge index counts ALL the AP classes taken by ALL the students and divides by the # of seniors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/how-the-americas-most-challenging-high-schools-list-works/2017/05/03/e6483160-2919-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?utm_term=.594c60207ed3
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2018 12:59     Subject: Rank the Top 10 NoVa High Schools
Anonymous wrote:According to the 2017 Washington Post Challenge Index:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/high-school-challenge-2017/?noredirect=on



The challenge index only counts the AP/IB classes taken by SENIORS. It is an index that can be used for comparisons, but you have to understand its limitations. AP classes, are frequently taken by juniors and sophomores as well. Also, the challenge index doesn't make any measure of HOW WELL those kids do on AP exams -- i.e. pass or fail them? Some schools have a lot of kids taking AP classes, but they don't pass them. Jay Matthews would say that passing the exam isn't the point b/c the value in AP classes is in exposing kids to that level of academic rigor, and then they are more likely to go to college.

But, if you are comparing the quality of the teaching or the quality of the student body (re: academic prowess), you would want to start with a standard curriculum and then look for results (i.e. passing or not).

As with all measuring sticks -- you have to understand what it is measuring. The challenge index has some value -- but it is not the last word.