Anonymous
07/19/2018 15:27
Subject: White people
Anonymous wrote:What about Madison, a very white name, that was never used as a first name until the movie Splash's mermaid heroine took it off a street sign in NYC. Is that low class, trailer parky? If not, is it only because Daryl Hannah in a Ron Howard movie is middle brow enough?
No, it IS "low-class trailer-parky" as you first said. Its been used a lot but I always think "ohhhh-kay" when I meet a girl named this.
Anonymous
07/19/2018 13:48
Subject: Re:White people
I'm AA in my 40s grew up middle class, private schools, lived with both married parents in a single family house in NYC suburbs. I have a unique name that is south Asian. Some may say it's ghetto. I would say try not to judge me, but if you really must why not judge me by what I have named my children. That is something I actually had a say in.
Funny...I am South Asian and have a South Asian name that could also be considered "ghetto" (it's actually mentioned in an old rap song where the lyrics include a list of women's names). Maybe we have the same name??
Anonymous
07/19/2018 10:07
Subject: Re:White people
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My only issue with names that people use is that they should know the meaning and origin of the name. If you are not white, and you name your daughter Clara, Claire, Blanca, Bianca, or Blanche, which all mean white, to me that is odd. If you are not of European descent and you name your daughter Brittany, that is also odd. Don't make up silly "African" names.
Check spelling!
Don't be afraid to walk away from family names, this is a brand new baby who deserves their own identity.
They don't mean "white" as in race, you dipshit. Those names all predate the concept of "white" as a race.
Also, Clara/Claire means "clear" or "bright," not "white."
So many people trying to convey their UMC sensibilities, yet only managing to convey their ignorance instead....
Anonymous
07/19/2018 10:03
Subject: Re:White people
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm AA in my 40s grew up middle class, private schools, lived with both married parents in a single family house in NYC suburbs. I have a unique name that is south Asian. Some may say it's ghetto. I would say try not to judge me, but if you really must why not judge me by what I have named my children. That is something I actually had a say in.
How is a south asian name ghetto, and why did your parents give you a south asian name if you're not south asian?
I was named after a friend. I didn't know you could only name your children certain names from your own culture. Since we are AA and were taken from our country, enslaved and stripped of our heritage what do you think they should have named me?
Got em'
What country were YOU, personally, kidnapped from? By whom? When? Have you reported it to the police? Who enslaved YOU? What “heritage” were YOU “stripped” of? Or are you describing something some long-dead person did to some other long-dead person? And if the latter, how in the world is any living person responsible to YOU for anything? Lots of long-dead people were abused by other long-dead people. Ask the Irish. Or the Chinese. Living in somebody else’s past is a sure way to never get anywhere in your own life.
Me? Not at all. I know much of my ancestry back into the 16th century. I can "lay claim" to cultural use of Norwegian, Welsh, Danish, and German names. While I personally have never been to Wales, I can name my kid Rhys and say it's a family name. Even though I don't speak German, I still have a couple of random German words that stuck around, passed down in my family.
Most AA people in the U.S. don't have that. If they're very lucky, they can trace their heritage to a region of Africa but most likely they are left only with the names given to their 19th century ancestors by their white slave-owners. There are many people who don't care about cultural heritage and ancestry but also many people who care tremendously (why else the fascination with "Mayflower families"?). A few decades ago, many AA began a movement to recapture or reinvent their African heritage, including creation of AA naming traditions. Saying that AA don't have a right to create naming traditions is obnoxious at best.
Anonymous
07/19/2018 09:14
Subject: Re:White people
Anonymous wrote:My only issue with names that people use is that they should know the meaning and origin of the name. If you are not white, and you name your daughter Clara, Claire, Blanca, Bianca, or Blanche, which all mean white, to me that is odd. If you are not of European descent and you name your daughter Brittany, that is also odd. Don't make up silly "African" names.
Check spelling!
Don't be afraid to walk away from family names, this is a brand new baby who deserves their own identity.
They don't mean "white" as in race, you dipshit. Those names all predate the concept of "white" as a race.
Also, Clara/Claire means "clear" or "bright," not "white."
Anonymous
07/19/2018 03:55
Subject: White people
If you already lived it, why ask here? I was just in Egypt, and haven't met a single Iesha, Latisha, Laquisha. I know a Tyrone here, and as I am not from US thought his name was traditional name and haven't thought a single thing about it. I know Suhelj, Suhas, Mahams, and they are all Middle Eastern and Pakistani names. I think they are wonderful names. I dislike made up names among any race, white as well. I can't understand names like Hayley, Bailey, Hayden, Cayden, and those are found among white people? What the heck is with these names?
Anonymous
07/19/2018 03:47
Subject: White people
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, there are trashy white names too:
Katelyn
Tristan
Crystal
Heather
Track
Brandon
Jolene
Sue Ellen
Polly
Holly
Tiffany
Most of these are normal names. Only Track (running track?) and Polly (the parrot?) sound weird to me. No one would be judged for the other names.
Track was S Palin's son. Never see these names in high SES kids.
Aren't the Palins upper class?
LOL.
Times a million. Redneck, uneducated, white trash family through and through.
Anonymous
07/19/2018 03:12
Subject: White people
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What about Madison, a very white name, that was never used as a first name until the movie Splash's mermaid heroine took it off a street sign in NYC. Is that low class, trailer parky? If not, is it only because Daryl Hannah in a Ron Howard movie is middle brow enough?
its very trailer park now.
Yes. A baby girl named Madison in 1988 = cute. A baby girl named Madysenn/Madisyn/Maddison/Maddisyn/Madyson/Madysyn in 2018 = not cute.
This is because names go through a cycle. They start out upper class and then rise in popularity as they are adopted by the middle class and below. As they rise in popularity, the upper class and then middle class abandon them. And at this point, spellings become unique. So Ashley can start out high brow until 20 years later little Trashley is born.
Anonymous
07/19/2018 01:54
Subject: White people
Anonymous wrote:OP, there are trashy white names too:
Katelyn
Tristan
Crystal
Heather
Track
Brandon
Jolene
Sue Ellen
Polly
Holly
Tiffany
Heather? There were a number of Heathers in the expensive private school world I grew up in.
The only women I've ever met named Holly and Polly were firmly upper middle to upper class. I have no idea why you think they are white trash names?
Sue Ellen sounds much more generational than class. I'm sure the last time a baby girl was baptized Sue Ellen was in 1945.
Brandon and Tristan can go either way. I think they're neutral as class goes. I have met well off, educated men named Brandon, and working men named Brandon too.
Anonymous
07/19/2018 00:28
Subject: White people
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, there are trashy white names too:
Katelyn
Tristan
Crystal
Heather
Track
Brandon
Jolene
Sue Ellen
Polly
Holly
Tiffany
Most of these are normal names. Only Track (running track?) and Polly (the parrot?) sound weird to me. No one would be judged for the other names.
Track was S Palin's son. Never see these names in high SES kids.
Aren't the Palins upper class?
LOL.
Anonymous
07/19/2018 00:19
Subject: White people
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, there are trashy white names too:
Katelyn
Tristan
Crystal
Heather
Track
Brandon
Jolene
Sue Ellen
Polly
Holly
Tiffany
Most of these are normal names. Only Track (running track?) and Polly (the parrot?) sound weird to me. No one would be judged for the other names.
Track was S Palin's son. Never see these names in high SES kids.
Aren't the Palins upper class?
Anonymous
07/19/2018 00:14
Subject: White people
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, there are trashy white names too:
Katelyn
Tristan
Crystal
Heather
Track
Brandon
Jolene
Sue Ellen
Polly
Holly
Tiffany
Most of these are normal names. Only Track (running track?) and Polly (the parrot?) sound weird to me. No one would be judged for the other names.
NP. Carrington and Ewing??
Polly is an adorable name, definitely ripe for a comeback. And if you think Crystal or Sue Ellen are normal names, I wonder who you associate with!
Ewing is a Scottish surname and Carrington is an English surname. So they are real names but they would be unusual as first names.
Btw, I'm genuinely surprised by the number of pps who think that names of Scottish/Welsh/Irish origins are made-up.
No, youngin. Crystal Carrington and Sue Ellen Ewing, Dynasty and Dallas. Classic camp TV!
Although I will admit it was Krystle on TV!
Anonymous
07/19/2018 00:11
Subject: White people
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, there are trashy white names too:
Katelyn
Tristan
Crystal
Heather
Track
Brandon
Jolene
Sue Ellen
Polly
Holly
Tiffany
Most of these are normal names. Only Track (running track?) and Polly (the parrot?) sound weird to me. No one would be judged for the other names.
NP. Carrington and Ewing??
Polly is an adorable name, definitely ripe for a comeback. And if you think Crystal or Sue Ellen are normal names, I wonder who you associate with!
Ewing is a Scottish surname and Carrington is an English surname. So they are real names but they would be unusual as first names.
Btw, I'm genuinely surprised by the number of pps who think that names of Scottish/Welsh/Irish origins are made-up.
No, youngin. Crystal Carrington and Sue Ellen Ewing, Dynasty and Dallas. Classic camp TV!
Anonymous
07/18/2018 23:42
Subject: White people
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, there are trashy white names too:
Katelyn
Tristan
Crystal
Heather
Track
Brandon
Jolene
Sue Ellen
Polly
Holly
Tiffany
Most of these are normal names. Only Track (running track?) and Polly (the parrot?) sound weird to me. No one would be judged for the other names.
NP. Carrington and Ewing??
Polly is an adorable name, definitely ripe for a comeback. And if you think Crystal or Sue Ellen are normal names, I wonder who you associate with!
Ewing is a Scottish surname and Carrington is an English surname. So they are real names but they would be unusual as first names.
Btw, I'm genuinely surprised by the number of pps who think that names of Scottish/Welsh/Irish origins are made-up.
Anonymous
07/18/2018 23:32
Subject: White people
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, there are trashy white names too:
Katelyn
Tristan
Crystal
Heather
Track
Brandon
Jolene
Sue Ellen
Polly
Holly
Tiffany
Most of these are normal names. Only Track (running track?) and Polly (the parrot?) sound weird to me. No one would be judged for the other names.
NP. Carrington and Ewing??
Polly is an adorable name, definitely ripe for a comeback. And if you think Crystal or Sue Ellen are normal names, I wonder who you associate with!