Anonymous
Post 04/30/2018 07:17     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

Anonymous wrote:Colby King

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/04/28/hate-cannot-have-the-last-word-in-washington/

A pretty straightforward, and simple statement. This shouldn't be hard, but neither the leadership in the District nor, apparently many posters in this forum, seem to embrace.

Please educate me as to the fallacy in thinking in this article.



Love Colbert King. Now waiting for some of the Jewish leaders who embraced Trayon to make a statement.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2018 07:15     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/5253634/germany-jews-kippah-anti-semitism-attacks

They can blend in if need be, like they are being advised to in Germany. It’s a shame it’s come to that.

Yes, they are. Antisemitism is on the rise in Germany, as it is elsewhere throughout the world, and Jews are asked to "hide" their religion.

And is that the excuse for antisemtitism that the other PP is giving? That one can pretend they're not Jewish? Even if other clues didn't "out"* them, let's take this to its logical conclusion: Antisemities will be encouraged to come out even stronger, because the result is that Jews will be driven underground to avoid the abuse, and voila! - they have put them in their place and for all intents and purposes rid the world of Jews.

*Would the PP here excuse bigotry against gay people by telling them they just have to pretend to be straight? That way, we don't have to see or interact with them right?

- OP
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2018 07:10     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

Drake is Jewish
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2018 06:46     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/5253634/germany-jews-kippah-anti-semitism-attacks

They can blend in if need be, like they are being advised to in Germany. It’s a shame it’s come to that.


They can only blend in if they change their names, stop worshiping openly, stop sending their children to Jewish schools ...

It's a shame out resident ride-or-die Trayon supporter is so ignorant about Judaism. No, being Jewish is not the same as being black. But how does that excuse anti-semitism?
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2018 06:36     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/5253634/germany-jews-kippah-anti-semitism-attacks

They can blend in if need be, like they are being advised to in Germany. It’s a shame it’s come to that.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2018 06:01     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jews did indeed ‘pass ‘, you don’t get to decide whose disconnected and who isn’t , it appears that you’re the one working hard to distance yourself from that reality but whatever dude , passing for white shielded them from the brunt of the white suoremacist structure this country was built upon . Facts


I am not sure what you are arguing about. You may think that Jews "pass", but then you realize that they can be singled out as "termites" by someone with a bullhorn being held by a government official standing in front of the Wilson Building. One was even identified by name. That's reality.


Unless you can prove that individual is able to identity a Jew in a crowd ( doubtful but I’m willing to be convinced ), I don’t see your point


Jews are extremely identifiable. They worship together, have Jewish schools, sometimes wear identifiable clothes, sometimes live in all-Jewish neighborhoods, and sometimes have characteristic features and names.


How are Jews identifiable? Some look like Europeans others look like middle easterners. Do tell.
Yes, observant Jews worship together. Not all jews are observant.
There are "Jewish" schools, but just like Gonzaga, Sidwell, St Albans or DeMatha, not all students are of the religion of the school.
Identifiable clothes? Ph, you mean Hasidic Jews? There are like, what, 10,000 of those in the US. The rest wear clothes from the Gap or the Nike store or whatever you are likely wearing.
I cannot think of an all-Jewish neighborhood outside of parts of Brooklyn or the Suffern, NY area. Do tell, what are the "Jewish" neighborhoods in DC?
Did you know that there are non-Jewish people named Bernstein and Schwartz?

Your post reeks of ignorance.



I ... don't even know what you're trying to say. Are you trying to say that anti-semitism doesn't matter or exist because Jews have pale skin?


No, I was questioning the idiotic general statements about Jews from the PP.


Idiotic to say that Jews are an identifiable minority?
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2018 23:06     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

Colby King

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/04/28/hate-cannot-have-the-last-word-in-washington/

A pretty straightforward, and simple statement. This shouldn't be hard, but neither the leadership in the District nor, apparently many posters in this forum, seem to embrace.

Please educate me as to the fallacy in thinking in this article.

Anonymous
Post 04/29/2018 23:04     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jews did indeed ‘pass ‘, you don’t get to decide whose disconnected and who isn’t , it appears that you’re the one working hard to distance yourself from that reality but whatever dude , passing for white shielded them from the brunt of the white suoremacist structure this country was built upon . Facts


I am not sure what you are arguing about. You may think that Jews "pass", but then you realize that they can be singled out as "termites" by someone with a bullhorn being held by a government official standing in front of the Wilson Building. One was even identified by name. That's reality.


Unless you can prove that individual is able to identity a Jew in a crowd ( doubtful but I’m willing to be convinced ), I don’t see your point


Jews are extremely identifiable. They worship together, have Jewish schools, sometimes wear identifiable clothes, sometimes live in all-Jewish neighborhoods, and sometimes have characteristic features and names.


How are Jews identifiable? Some look like Europeans others look like middle easterners. Do tell.
Yes, observant Jews worship together. Not all jews are observant.
There are "Jewish" schools, but just like Gonzaga, Sidwell, St Albans or DeMatha, not all students are of the religion of the school.
Identifiable clothes? Ph, you mean Hasidic Jews? There are like, what, 10,000 of those in the US. The rest wear clothes from the Gap or the Nike store or whatever you are likely wearing.
I cannot think of an all-Jewish neighborhood outside of parts of Brooklyn or the Suffern, NY area. Do tell, what are the "Jewish" neighborhoods in DC?
Did you know that there are non-Jewish people named Bernstein and Schwartz?

Your post reeks of ignorance.



I ... don't even know what you're trying to say. Are you trying to say that anti-semitism doesn't matter or exist because Jews have pale skin?


No, I was questioning the idiotic general statements about Jews from the PP.
jsteele
Post 04/29/2018 22:53     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jews did indeed ‘pass ‘, you don’t get to decide whose disconnected and who isn’t , it appears that you’re the one working hard to distance yourself from that reality but whatever dude , passing for white shielded them from the brunt of the white suoremacist structure this country was built upon . Facts


I am not sure what you are arguing about. You may think that Jews "pass", but then you realize that they can be singled out as "termites" by someone with a bullhorn being held by a government official standing in front of the Wilson Building. One was even identified by name. That's reality.


Unless you can prove that individual is able to identity a Jew in a crowd ( doubtful but I’m willing to be convinced ), I don’t see your point


Maybe I am misunderstanding, but the implication of what you are saying is that Jews, unlike blacks, can't immediately be identified by skin color. That may be true, but skin color is not the sole means of identification. The Nation of Islam member who called Elissa Silverman a "fake Jew" had no trouble identifying her. Indeed, anti-Semites have made a virtual science of ways to identify Jews. Maybe you are familiar with their practice of putting ((( ))) around the Twitter handles of people they identify as Jews?


Jews can’t be identified like African Americans , I don’t think the use of the ‘may be true’ is necessary as if it’s debatable . As for Twitter I’m not on it .


Who doesn't love a good semantic argument? I'm up for this. In a crowd of 100 people with various shades of dark skin, how will you distinguish the African-Americans from the Ghanians, Somalis, and Malians?



Actually you can , probably not you though


I could probably come just as close as you could. However, neither of us would be perfect. Both of us would use clues beyond skin color. That's exactly how Jews are often identified by both Jews and non-Jews.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2018 22:46     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

I love when identity politics crash and burn.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2018 22:42     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jews did indeed ‘pass ‘, you don’t get to decide whose disconnected and who isn’t , it appears that you’re the one working hard to distance yourself from that reality but whatever dude , passing for white shielded them from the brunt of the white suoremacist structure this country was built upon . Facts


I am not sure what you are arguing about. You may think that Jews "pass", but then you realize that they can be singled out as "termites" by someone with a bullhorn being held by a government official standing in front of the Wilson Building. One was even identified by name. That's reality.


Unless you can prove that individual is able to identity a Jew in a crowd ( doubtful but I’m willing to be convinced ), I don’t see your point


Maybe I am misunderstanding, but the implication of what you are saying is that Jews, unlike blacks, can't immediately be identified by skin color. That may be true, but skin color is not the sole means of identification. The Nation of Islam member who called Elissa Silverman a "fake Jew" had no trouble identifying her. Indeed, anti-Semites have made a virtual science of ways to identify Jews. Maybe you are familiar with their practice of putting ((( ))) around the Twitter handles of people they identify as Jews?


Jews can’t be identified like African Americans , I don’t think the use of the ‘may be true’ is necessary as if it’s debatable . As for Twitter I’m not on it .


Who doesn't love a good semantic argument? I'm up for this. In a crowd of 100 people with various shades of dark skin, how will you distinguish the African-Americans from the Ghanians, Somalis, and Malians?



Actually you can , probably not you though
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2018 22:21     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jews did indeed ‘pass ‘, you don’t get to decide whose disconnected and who isn’t , it appears that you’re the one working hard to distance yourself from that reality but whatever dude , passing for white shielded them from the brunt of the white suoremacist structure this country was built upon . Facts


I am not sure what you are arguing about. You may think that Jews "pass", but then you realize that they can be singled out as "termites" by someone with a bullhorn being held by a government official standing in front of the Wilson Building. One was even identified by name. That's reality.


Unless you can prove that individual is able to identity a Jew in a crowd ( doubtful but I’m willing to be convinced ), I don’t see your point


Maybe I am misunderstanding, but the implication of what you are saying is that Jews, unlike blacks, can't immediately be identified by skin color. That may be true, but skin color is not the sole means of identification. The Nation of Islam member who called Elissa Silverman a "fake Jew" had no trouble identifying her. Indeed, anti-Semites have made a virtual science of ways to identify Jews. Maybe you are familiar with their practice of putting ((( ))) around the Twitter handles of people they identify as Jews?


Jews can’t be identified like African Americans , I don’t think the use of the ‘may be true’ is necessary as if it’s debatable . As for Twitter I’m not on it .


Who doesn't love a good semantic argument? I'm up for this. In a crowd of 100 people with various shades of dark skin, how will you distinguish the African-Americans from the Ghanians, Somalis, and Malians?


....or the black Jews, for that matter?
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2018 22:19     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jews did indeed ‘pass ‘, you don’t get to decide whose disconnected and who isn’t , it appears that you’re the one working hard to distance yourself from that reality but whatever dude , passing for white shielded them from the brunt of the white suoremacist structure this country was built upon . Facts


I am not sure what you are arguing about. You may think that Jews "pass", but then you realize that they can be singled out as "termites" by someone with a bullhorn being held by a government official standing in front of the Wilson Building. One was even identified by name. That's reality.


Unless you can prove that individual is able to identity a Jew in a crowd ( doubtful but I’m willing to be convinced ), I don’t see your point


Jews are extremely identifiable. They worship together, have Jewish schools, sometimes wear identifiable clothes, sometimes live in all-Jewish neighborhoods, and sometimes have characteristic features and names.


How are Jews identifiable? Some look like Europeans others look like middle easterners. Do tell.
Yes, observant Jews worship together. Not all jews are observant.
There are "Jewish" schools, but just like Gonzaga, Sidwell, St Albans or DeMatha, not all students are of the religion of the school.
Identifiable clothes? Ph, you mean Hasidic Jews? There are like, what, 10,000 of those in the US. The rest wear clothes from the Gap or the Nike store or whatever you are likely wearing.
I cannot think of an all-Jewish neighborhood outside of parts of Brooklyn or the Suffern, NY area. Do tell, what are the "Jewish" neighborhoods in DC?
Did you know that there are non-Jewish people named Bernstein and Schwartz?

Your post reeks of ignorance.


What's all this talk about whether Jews are identifiable? (Personally, and I'm Jewish, I think they are in 90% of the cases.) This thread is about a DC official's enabling of a virulent anti-Semite, holding the megaphone while the scumbag spewed his venom. Why is anybody turning this around to bitch about Jews? THEY are the ones who have been wronged here, particularly Silverman.

Prediction: Lopez will be history by the end of the week. Trayon, not so sure.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2018 22:14     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally


I am not Jewish, but from the moment that despicable Trayon landed in the news, I knew he was trash.

What's sad is that there is so much funding at stake here, for low-income black families. That's why there is little outcry over the comments.

Anonymous
Post 04/29/2018 22:13     Subject: Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jews did indeed ‘pass ‘, you don’t get to decide whose disconnected and who isn’t , it appears that you’re the one working hard to distance yourself from that reality but whatever dude , passing for white shielded them from the brunt of the white suoremacist structure this country was built upon . Facts


I am not sure what you are arguing about. You may think that Jews "pass", but then you realize that they can be singled out as "termites" by someone with a bullhorn being held by a government official standing in front of the Wilson Building. One was even identified by name. That's reality.


Unless you can prove that individual is able to identity a Jew in a crowd ( doubtful but I’m willing to be convinced ), I don’t see your point


Jews are extremely identifiable. They worship together, have Jewish schools, sometimes wear identifiable clothes, sometimes live in all-Jewish neighborhoods, and sometimes have characteristic features and names.


How are Jews identifiable? Some look like Europeans others look like middle easterners. Do tell.
Yes, observant Jews worship together. Not all jews are observant.
There are "Jewish" schools, but just like Gonzaga, Sidwell, St Albans or DeMatha, not all students are of the religion of the school.
Identifiable clothes? Ph, you mean Hasidic Jews? There are like, what, 10,000 of those in the US. The rest wear clothes from the Gap or the Nike store or whatever you are likely wearing.
I cannot think of an all-Jewish neighborhood outside of parts of Brooklyn or the Suffern, NY area. Do tell, what are the "Jewish" neighborhoods in DC?
Did you know that there are non-Jewish people named Bernstein and Schwartz?

Your post reeks of ignorance.



I ... don't even know what you're trying to say. Are you trying to say that anti-semitism doesn't matter or exist because Jews have pale skin?