Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 11:34     Subject: 2018 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MY DC 3rd Grader

Got reject letter

Cogat 142
NNAT 114
GBRS: Dont know

Does it make sense to re appeal? Or try giving Wisc or its too late now?


I'm surprised that you're not in. COGAT score is great.


This makes me feel sick. Looking at the "in" scores so far, I thought COGAT 132+ would get you in. Is there any consistency in this process?


Guessing they have different expectation for a 3rd grader.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 11:31     Subject: 2018 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:MY DC 3rd Grader

Got reject letter

Cogat 142
NNAT 114
GBRS: Dont know

Does it make sense to re appeal? Or try giving Wisc or its too late now?


I would definitely appeal that. Ask your AART for the file ASAP before he/she gets flooded. Get a WISC or other IQ test. I have a third grader too and am nervous, especially based on your result. For my DC, Cogat was 130 and NNAT was 123 (from GMU). I saw the file the school submitted, and the GBRS was 13, with strong work samples from the school (in my opinion). I hope this puts DC through. Otherwise, I will likely appeal too.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 11:27     Subject: 2018 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MY DC 3rd Grader

Got reject letter

Cogat 142
NNAT 114
GBRS: Dont know

Does it make sense to re appeal? Or try giving Wisc or its too late now?


I'm surprised that you're not in. COGAT score is great.


This makes me feel sick. Looking at the "in" scores so far, I thought COGAT 132+ would get you in. Is there any consistency in this process?
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 11:24     Subject: 2018 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:MY DC 3rd Grader

Got reject letter

Cogat 142
NNAT 114
GBRS: Dont know

Does it make sense to re appeal? Or try giving Wisc or its too late now?


I'm surprised that you're not in. COGAT score is great.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 11:19     Subject: 2018 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:MY DC 3rd Grader

Got reject letter

Cogat 142
NNAT 114
GBRS: Dont know

Does it make sense to re appeal? Or try giving Wisc or its too late now?


Contact your AART and ask for a copy of the packet, which will include the GBRS. Mine sent it home with DC the next day.
Not too late to appeal. If you want to appeal with a WISC, contact GMU or a private provider.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 11:16     Subject: 2018 AAP Admission Thread
MY DC 3rd Grader

Got reject letter

Cogat 142
NNAT 114
GBRS: Dont know

Does it make sense to re appeal? Or try giving Wisc or its too late now?
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 10:35     Subject: Re:2018 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It reads like Cogat result is the key to AAP. If Cogat is 132+ ,then in. But NOT always the case for NNAT 132+. GBRS doesn't play a major role either.


It sounds to me like GBRS does play a big role unless you have excellent scores to override it.

Agree. Looking at last year's thread, there were many that got in with high GBRS but average to low Cogat & Nnat scores.

I suppose it's because GBRS are observations made by the teachers and AART viewed over long period of time. Whereas the Cogat & Nnat are tests given at a point in time. It's unknown how many prep for tests. I heard that in general, Nnat is easier to prep for than Cogat. Hence the very large disparity in the scores in some. But I think the GBRS and report cards tend provide additional aspect of child's capabilities.


Samples, GBRS commentary, Parent comments may also have an impact that we do not see here. For some kids, especially one's on the cusp, this input may tell a larger story than scores. This is the case for my DS and the reason I decided to parent refer despite lowish scores. Fortunate for some and unfortunate for others there is no line in the sand for this process.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 10:29     Subject: Re:2018 AAP Admission Thread
More "In" scores from another thread

IN
COGAT: 135
NNAT: 136
Don't know GBRS
Zip code: 22033
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 10:29     Subject: Re:2018 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Got the letter with "not eligible" decision. NNAT score 145 COGAT 131, not sure if I should appeal or not. Child is above grade in Math and Reading with all 4s in grading reports.

Absolutely ridiculous! You should appeal, since pretty much all of the kids in your child's current math and reading groups will get in.


Agree. Do you have any idea why your child wouldn't be accepted? Did you test prep?


Cogat score is below cut-off however appeal should get your DC in AAP. What is your DC GBRS?


Unfortunately COGAT is 1 point below the cutoff of 132. GBRS is 11.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 10:10     Subject: 2018 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks, pp, for the detailed info about Va Run. I really appreciate it.


DP. It sounds like a good school. It also sounds like PP's DC won't be happy in AAP either.


Still a better fit than general ed or a private school though. And the AAP teachers can provide extensions with the math.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 10:08     Subject: 2018 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A stupid question here - what’s the difference between an AAP curriculum and a non AAP one?


Other than math, the curriculum is identical. For math, it is advanced which means that the 3rd-5th grade math curriculum is taught in 3rd and 4th grade. For schools with advanced math, the classes can be for students who are advanced in math, not just AAP students.


The curriculum is not the same. They go more in depth in all subjects and have more project based learning. Students also have a little more freedom to do self directed work.

I had seen a write up on the curriculum specifics but can't find it now. I will post if I find it.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 09:51     Subject: 2018 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:A stupid question here - what’s the difference between an AAP curriculum and a non AAP one?


Other than math, the curriculum is identical. For math, it is advanced which means that the 3rd-5th grade math curriculum is taught in 3rd and 4th grade. For schools with advanced math, the classes can be for students who are advanced in math, not just AAP students.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 09:30     Subject: Re:2018 AAP Admission Thread
We received a letter on Friday. My son got accepted and will be attending Bull Run next year.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 09:23     Subject: 2018 AAP Admission Thread
A stupid question here - what’s the difference between an AAP curriculum and a non AAP one?
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2018 09:23     Subject: Re:2018 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It reads like Cogat result is the key to AAP. If Cogat is 132+ ,then in. But NOT always the case for NNAT 132+. GBRS doesn't play a major role either.


It sounds to me like GBRS does play a big role unless you have excellent scores to override it.

Agree. Looking at last year's thread, there were many that got in with high GBRS but average to low Cogat & Nnat scores.

I suppose it's because GBRS are observations made by the teachers and AART viewed over long period of time. Whereas the Cogat & Nnat are tests given at a point in time. It's unknown how many prep for tests. I heard that in general, Nnat is easier to prep for than Cogat. Hence the very large disparity in the scores in some. But I think the GBRS and report cards tend provide additional aspect of child's capabilities.