Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 17:40     Subject: Re:Thoreau AAP
So now LJ is Merrifield and Falls Church with the option for Oakton, Fairfax, Dunn Loring, and Vienna to go there for AP and TMS is Oakton, Fairfax, Dunn Loring, and Vienna with no option for Merrifield and Falls Church to attend. Got it. Always the best for Vienna/Oakton.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 17:38     Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The issue was always that we were an island created just to “integrate” the school. It was very unfair to take kids out of their greater community area. The SB rezoned quite a few to SLHS a few years back. Or have you forgotten?!
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The Jackson boundaries were contiguous. There was no "island" in the Oakton pyramid being sent to Jackson. Jackson was simply a split feeder to Falls Church and Oakton, just as Franklin is a split feeder to Oakton and Chantilly.

And, your "greater community area" is Fairfax County. The areas involved are simply part of unincorporated Fairfax County, not the Town of Vienna. You simply make up communities based on your affinity for people with more money.


Wrong. My greater community is Vienna (1.5 miles to downtown) and Oakton (1 mike to the shopping center). LJ is part of the Falls Church and Dunn Loring greater communities.


And yet Dunn Loring goes to TMS


LJ is not in Dunn Loring. LJ is in Merrifield. Dunn Loring ends at I66 The metro station is called Dunn Loring because Merrifield was nothing in 1980's. In fact, merrifield was nothing until the Mossaic district was built.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 17:12     Subject: Re:Thoreau AAP
I’m happy with the solution. Th has plenty of room. Lj didn’t. Th will still have plenty of room. Lj will have a little more room. Done and done b
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 16:56     Subject: Thoreau AAP
Good point of
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 16:53     Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The issue was always that we were an island created just to “integrate” the school. It was very unfair to take kids out of their greater community area. The SB rezoned quite a few to SLHS a few years back. Or have you forgotten?!
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The Jackson boundaries were contiguous. There was no "island" in the Oakton pyramid being sent to Jackson. Jackson was simply a split feeder to Falls Church and Oakton, just as Franklin is a split feeder to Oakton and Chantilly.

And, your "greater community area" is Fairfax County. The areas involved are simply part of unincorporated Fairfax County, not the Town of Vienna. You simply make up communities based on your affinity for people with more money.


Wrong. My greater community is Vienna (1.5 miles to downtown) and Oakton (1 mike to the shopping center). LJ is part of the Falls Church and Dunn Loring greater communities.


And yet Dunn Loring goes to TMS
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 16:45     Subject: Re:Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And why should AAP kids at Thoreau get to choose between two schools, when the GenEd kids at Jackson have no such choice and will be relegated to a higher poverty school.

Shame on you, Dalia Palchik. And Karen Keys-Gamarra? What a phony.


Frankly, I've always thought it was offensive to the LJ-zoned kids that they were already squished in a severely over-crowded school, and yet, kids from another zone had the right to opt into LJ and make it even more crowded! I would have been so annoyed if my kid was in LJ over the past few years and TMS-AAP kids were opting in to make it more crowded. I guess, in practice, it is only 50 kids per grade... but that's 100 kids extra... and four trailers-worth. So, in some sense the school would have been crowded with or without the TMS opt-in's. But, it's the principle of the matter... kids having the option to make my kids' school more crowded. (If I had been a LJ parent). As it was, I was a TMS parent, and my kid has PLENTY of space over the past two years in a brand new facility. This rezoning should have been done two years ago.


But the TMS-AAP kids still have that option, only now there are more of them being given an option to choose between two schools.

FCPS could have eliminated thAT option by simply making Thoreau a center, without also greatly expanding its boundaries. Instead, they've made the worst decision possible, and now they'll just sit back and watch the AAP families gradually move to TMS over the next few years. You should be happy your kids are out of middle schools, because Thoreau likely will end up very crowded with base boundaries that feed into three different high schools.


No. I have one starting at Thoreau next fall. S/he will have a different experience from my older child who is finishing 8th grade. TMS had about 900 kids for the past two years in a big new school. Next year at TMS, they are expecting 1150-1200. It is designed to hold more than that. But, it will not be a easy-going as it was the past two years. The following year, it'll be up to 1350 for sure. I will agree with PPs who said TMS will be at capacity... it looks like it is going to be. The reality is that there are just a boat-load of kids in this zone and LJ's zone. No two ways around it. LJ has been running at 1450+ while TMS has been running at 920.... that is just not right. In the end, they will both be around 1300-1350. Both will be bigger than I would prefer... but that's FCPS for 'ya.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 16:32     Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The issue was always that we were an island created just to “integrate” the school. It was very unfair to take kids out of their greater community area. The SB rezoned quite a few to SLHS a few years back. Or have you forgotten?!
\

The Jackson boundaries were contiguous. There was no "island" in the Oakton pyramid being sent to Jackson. Jackson was simply a split feeder to Falls Church and Oakton, just as Franklin is a split feeder to Oakton and Chantilly.

And, your "greater community area" is Fairfax County. The areas involved are simply part of unincorporated Fairfax County, not the Town of Vienna. You simply make up communities based on your affinity for people with more money.


Wrong. My greater community is Vienna (1.5 miles to downtown) and Oakton (1 mike to the shopping center). LJ is part of the Falls Church and Dunn Loring greater communities.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 16:32     Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:No. It was a man-made island. You passed by other houses zoned for TMS to come down 29 and down Blake and around 123 over to courthouse and back around Sutton to Nutley. It was a carved out island that made no sense! It would have made more sense to grab the houses closer in to LJ instead of grabbing those further out. The SB finally understood! Thank GOD!


There has been no attendance island assigned to Jackson. These terms have accepted meanings, so stop lying.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 16:30     Subject: Re:Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And why should AAP kids at Thoreau get to choose between two schools, when the GenEd kids at Jackson have no such choice and will be relegated to a higher poverty school.

Shame on you, Dalia Palchik. And Karen Keys-Gamarra? What a phony.


Frankly, I've always thought it was offensive to the LJ-zoned kids that they were already squished in a severely over-crowded school, and yet, kids from another zone had the right to opt into LJ and make it even more crowded! I would have been so annoyed if my kid was in LJ over the past few years and TMS-AAP kids were opting in to make it more crowded. I guess, in practice, it is only 50 kids per grade... but that's 100 kids extra... and four trailers-worth. So, in some sense the school would have been crowded with or without the TMS opt-in's. But, it's the principle of the matter... kids having the option to make my kids' school more crowded. (If I had been a LJ parent). As it was, I was a TMS parent, and my kid has PLENTY of space over the past two years in a brand new facility. This rezoning should have been done two years ago.


But the TMS-AAP kids still have that option, only now there are more of them being given an option to choose between two schools.

FCPS could have eliminated thAT option by simply making Thoreau a center, without also greatly expanding its boundaries. Instead, they've made the worst decision possible, and now they'll just sit back and watch the AAP families gradually move to TMS over the next few years. You should be happy your kids are out of middle schools, because Thoreau likely will end up very crowded with base boundaries that feed into three different high schools.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 16:28     Subject: Thoreau AAP
No. It was a man-made island. You passed by other houses zoned for TMS to come down 29 and down Blake and around 123 over to courthouse and back around Sutton to Nutley. It was a carved out island that made no sense! It would have made more sense to grab the houses closer in to LJ instead of grabbing those further out. The SB finally understood! Thank GOD!
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 16:24     Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:The issue was always that we were an island created just to “integrate” the school. It was very unfair to take kids out of their greater community area. The SB rezoned quite a few to SLHS a few years back. Or have you forgotten?!
\

The Jackson boundaries were contiguous. There was no "island" in the Oakton pyramid being sent to Jackson. Jackson was simply a split feeder to Falls Church and Oakton, just as Franklin is a split feeder to Oakton and Chantilly.

And, your "greater community area" is Fairfax County. The areas involved are simply part of unincorporated Fairfax County, not the Town of Vienna. You simply make up communities based on your affinity for people with more money.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 16:24     Subject: Re:Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:And why should AAP kids at Thoreau get to choose between two schools, when the GenEd kids at Jackson have no such choice and will be relegated to a higher poverty school.

Shame on you, Dalia Palchik. And Karen Keys-Gamarra? What a phony.


Frankly, I've always thought it was offensive to the LJ-zoned kids that they were already squished in a severely over-crowded school, and yet, kids from another zone had the right to opt into LJ and make it even more crowded! I would have been so annoyed if my kid was in LJ over the past few years and TMS-AAP kids were opting in to make it more crowded. I guess, in practice, it is only 50 kids per grade... but that's 100 kids extra... and four trailers-worth. So, in some sense the school would have been crowded with or without the TMS opt-in's. But, it's the principle of the matter... kids having the option to make my kids' school more crowded. (If I had been a LJ parent). As it was, I was a TMS parent, and my kid has PLENTY of space over the past two years in a brand new facility. This rezoning should have been done two years ago.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 16:20     Subject: Thoreau AAP
The issue was always that we were an island created just to “integrate” the school. It was very unfair to take kids out of their greater community area. The SB rezoned quite a few to SLHS a few years back. Or have you forgotten?!
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 16:18     Subject: Re:Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:Im So glad the boundary was changed. Thrilled lj will have less kids next year!! Wahoo!


Finally someone who can look at it as a win-win!
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2018 16:16     Subject: Re:Thoreau AAP
And why should AAP kids at Thoreau get to choose between two schools, when the GenEd kids at Jackson have no such choice and will be relegated to a higher poverty school.

Shame on you, Dalia Palchik. And Karen Keys-Gamarra? What a phony.