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Anonymous

02/17/2018 21:25 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

Anonymous wrote:
No, that is not a list of firearms specifically banned, that is a definition and nothing more.

That would have been glaringly obvious for anyone who paid attention to the fact that AR15's were available for sale throughout the ban

BOOM! Nailed it:

Anonymous wrote:
Ermergerd.. I'm guessing now we'll move into the semantics part of the discussion, where we learn that "banned" doesn't mean banned, "is" doesn't mean is, and Venezuela isn't "real communism".

Amiright?

Anonymous

02/17/2018 21:23 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

Anonymous wrote:
Ermergerd.. I'm guessing now we'll move into the semantics part of the discussion, where we learn that "banned" doesn't mean banned, "is" doesn't mean is, and Venezuela isn't "real communism".

Amiright?

Oops, I mean:
Venezuela isn't "real socialism". Because even the commies aren't dumb enough to call communism "communism". Which reminds me of the old saying:

The difference between a communist and a socialist is that at least he communist knows he's a communist.

Anonymous

02/17/2018 21:23 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

Why are they legal?

Ask Kelly Guthrie Raley.

Anonymous

02/17/2018 21:21 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

Why are they legal?

Because deer run fast and it's hard to hit 'em after I've spent several hours drinking beer with my buddies in a tree fort dressed up in our camo costumes. Those guns improve our odds of hitting 'em, and I need to bring home something to prove to Suzy that I'm not spending my hunting weekend having an affair. (But please don't tell Suzy about our Brokeback Mountain adventures.)

Anonymous

02/17/2018 21:21 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

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Anonymous wrote:"Show me this list of banned guns from the Clinton AWB "

Can you answer it? Yes or no?

NP here. You do not get to issue edicts that other people must follow. If you want information, try GOOGLE.

The point was that there was no list banning specific guns in the federal AWB. Anyone who claims there was is either uneducated, or lying

The irony here is rich.

Here's some trivia to illustrate (and underscore):
From when until when was the TEC-9 produced, and why was it discontinued?

Bonus question:
Where did the name for its successor, the AB-10, come from?

So you are claiming that the TEC9 was banned by name in the law, or are you just trying to twist things to fit your narrative?

I'm claiming that if you spend a few seconds googling for the answer to the first question, your question will be answered. (AB = After Ban, btw - but go google anyway since it should be humbling)

Okay, so you still haven't provided anything refuting that the Clinton AWB did not have any form of list which banned specific firearms

If it existed, refuting my claim would be a simple matter of copy/paste. Though of course that would require for the law to actually contain such language, which it does not

Here you go:

`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--
``(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the
firearms in any caliber, known as--
``(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat
Kalashnikovs (all models);
``(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and
Galil;
``(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
``(iv) Colt AR-15;
``(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
``(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
``(vii) Steyr AUG;
``(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
``(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to)
the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;

Another swing, and another list

That list isn't a list of banned firearms

Uh yes they are it’s from the 1994 law. Part A list weapons specifically banned. Part B, not shown, lists characteristics of unnamed weapons which would also be considered semi-auto for the AWB

Time for you to eat some crow.

No, that is not a list of firearms specifically banned, that is a definition and nothing more.

That would have been glaringly obvious for anyone who paid attention to the fact that AR15's were available for sale throughout the ban

Anonymous

02/17/2018 21:21 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Show me this list of banned guns from the Clinton AWB "

Can you answer it? Yes or no?

NP here. You do not get to issue edicts that other people must follow. If you want information, try GOOGLE.

The point was that there was no list banning specific guns in the federal AWB. Anyone who claims there was is either uneducated, or lying

The irony here is rich.

Here's some trivia to illustrate (and underscore):
From when until when was the TEC-9 produced, and why was it discontinued?

Bonus question:
Where did the name for its successor, the AB-10, come from?

So you are claiming that the TEC9 was banned by name in the law, or are you just trying to twist things to fit your narrative?

I'm claiming that if you spend a few seconds googling for the answer to the first question, your question will be answered. (AB = After Ban, btw - but go google anyway since it should be humbling)

Okay, so you still haven't provided anything refuting that the Clinton AWB did not have any form of list which banned specific firearms

If it existed, refuting my claim would be a simple matter of copy/paste. Though of course that would require for the law to actually contain such language, which it does not

Here you go:

`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--
``(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the
firearms in any caliber, known as--
``(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat
Kalashnikovs (all models);
``(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and
Galil;
``(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
``(iv) Colt AR-15;
``(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
``(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
``(vii) Steyr AUG;
``(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
``(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to)
the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;

Another swing, and another list

That list isn't a list of banned firearms

Uh yes they are it’s from the 1994 law. Part A list weapons specifically banned. Part B, not shown, lists characteristics of unnamed weapons which would also be considered semi-auto for the AWB

Time for you to eat some crow.

Ermergerd.. I'm guessing now we'll move into the semantics part of the discussion, where we learn that "banned" doesn't mean banned, "is" doesn't mean is, and Venezuela isn't "real communism".

Amiright?

Anonymous

02/17/2018 21:17 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Show me this list of banned guns from the Clinton AWB "

Can you answer it? Yes or no?

NP here. You do not get to issue edicts that other people must follow. If you want information, try GOOGLE.

The point was that there was no list banning specific guns in the federal AWB. Anyone who claims there was is either uneducated, or lying

The irony here is rich.

Here's some trivia to illustrate (and underscore):
From when until when was the TEC-9 produced, and why was it discontinued?

Bonus question:
Where did the name for its successor, the AB-10, come from?

So you are claiming that the TEC9 was banned by name in the law, or are you just trying to twist things to fit your narrative?

I'm claiming that if you spend a few seconds googling for the answer to the first question, your question will be answered. (AB = After Ban, btw - but go google anyway since it should be humbling)

Okay, so you still haven't provided anything refuting that the Clinton AWB did not have any form of list which banned specific firearms

If it existed, refuting my claim would be a simple matter of copy/paste. Though of course that would require for the law to actually contain such language, which it does not

Here you go:

`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--
``(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the
firearms in any caliber, known as--
``(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat
Kalashnikovs (all models);
``(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and
Galil;
``(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
``(iv) Colt AR-15;
``(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
``(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
``(vii) Steyr AUG;
``(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
``(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to)
the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;

Another swing, and another list

That list isn't a list of banned firearms

Uh yes they are it’s from the 1994 law. Part A list weapons specifically banned. Part B, not shown, lists characteristics of unnamed weapons which would also be considered semi-auto for the AWB

Time for you to eat some crow.

Anonymous

02/17/2018 21:10 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Show me this list of banned guns from the Clinton AWB "

Can you answer it? Yes or no?

NP here. You do not get to issue edicts that other people must follow. If you want information, try GOOGLE.

The point was that there was no list banning specific guns in the federal AWB. Anyone who claims there was is either uneducated, or lying

The irony here is rich.

Here's some trivia to illustrate (and underscore):
From when until when was the TEC-9 produced, and why was it discontinued?

Bonus question:
Where did the name for its successor, the AB-10, come from?

So you are claiming that the TEC9 was banned by name in the law, or are you just trying to twist things to fit your narrative?

I'm claiming that if you spend a few seconds googling for the answer to the first question, your question will be answered. (AB = After Ban, btw - but go google anyway since it should be humbling)

Okay, so you still haven't provided anything refuting that the Clinton AWB did not have any form of list which banned specific firearms

If it existed, refuting my claim would be a simple matter of copy/paste. Though of course that would require for the law to actually contain such language, which it does not

Here you go:

`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--
``(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the
firearms in any caliber, known as--
``(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat
Kalashnikovs (all models);
``(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and
Galil;
``(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
``(iv) Colt AR-15;
``(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
``(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
``(vii) Steyr AUG;
``(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
``(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to)
the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;

Another swing, and another list

That list isn't a list of banned firearms

Anonymous

02/17/2018 20:57 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Show me this list of banned guns from the Clinton AWB "

Can you answer it? Yes or no?

NP here. You do not get to issue edicts that other people must follow. If you want information, try GOOGLE.

The point was that there was no list banning specific guns in the federal AWB. Anyone who claims there was is either uneducated, or lying

The irony here is rich.

Here's some trivia to illustrate (and underscore):
From when until when was the TEC-9 produced, and why was it discontinued?

Bonus question:
Where did the name for its successor, the AB-10, come from?

So you are claiming that the TEC9 was banned by name in the law, or are you just trying to twist things to fit your narrative?

I'm claiming that if you spend a few seconds googling for the answer to the first question, your question will be answered. (AB = After Ban, btw - but go google anyway since it should be humbling)

Okay, so you still haven't provided anything refuting that the Clinton AWB did not have any form of list which banned specific firearms

If it existed, refuting my claim would be a simple matter of copy/paste. Though of course that would require for the law to actually contain such language, which it does not

Here you go:

`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--
``(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the
firearms in any caliber, known as--
``(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat
Kalashnikovs (all models);
``(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and
Galil;
``(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
``(iv) Colt AR-15;
``(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
``(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
``(vii) Steyr AUG;
``(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
``(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to)
the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;

Anonymous

02/17/2018 20:55 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Show me this list of banned guns from the Clinton AWB "

Can you answer it? Yes or no?

NP here. You do not get to issue edicts that other people must follow. If you want information, try GOOGLE.

The point was that there was no list banning specific guns in the federal AWB. Anyone who claims there was is either uneducated, or lying

The irony here is rich.

Here's some trivia to illustrate (and underscore):
From when until when was the TEC-9 produced, and why was it discontinued?

Bonus question:
Where did the name for its successor, the AB-10, come from?

So you are claiming that the TEC9 was banned by name in the law, or are you just trying to twist things to fit your narrative?

I'm claiming that if you spend a few seconds googling for the answer to the first question, your question will be answered. (AB = After Ban, btw - but go google anyway since it should be humbling)

Okay, so you still haven't provided anything refuting that the Clinton AWB did not have any form of list which banned specific firearms

If it existed, refuting my claim would be a simple matter of copy/paste. Though of course that would require for the law to actually contain such language, which it does not

The language of the bill is online, and failing that there's a wiki page. It's literally the least you could do to go look at it. I'm happy to guide you to the path of enlightenment but you've got to at least put a few seconds of your own time in. I don't know anyone's age here, but I can make rough estimates sometimes based on the sense of entitlement.

Anonymous

02/17/2018 20:51 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Show me this list of banned guns from the Clinton AWB "

Can you answer it? Yes or no?

NP here. You do not get to issue edicts that other people must follow. If you want information, try GOOGLE.

The point was that there was no list banning specific guns in the federal AWB. Anyone who claims there was is either uneducated, or lying

The irony here is rich.

Here's some trivia to illustrate (and underscore):
From when until when was the TEC-9 produced, and why was it discontinued?

Bonus question:
Where did the name for its successor, the AB-10, come from?

So you are claiming that the TEC9 was banned by name in the law, or are you just trying to twist things to fit your narrative?

I'm claiming that if you spend a few seconds googling for the answer to the first question, your question will be answered. (AB = After Ban, btw - but go google anyway since it should be humbling)

Okay, so you still haven't provided anything refuting that the Clinton AWB did not have any form of list which banned specific firearms

If it existed, refuting my claim would be a simple matter of copy/paste. Though of course that would require for the law to actually contain such language, which it does not

Anonymous

02/17/2018 20:36 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Show me this list of banned guns from the Clinton AWB "

Can you answer it? Yes or no?

NP here. You do not get to issue edicts that other people must follow. If you want information, try GOOGLE.

The point was that there was no list banning specific guns in the federal AWB. Anyone who claims there was is either uneducated, or lying

The irony here is rich.

Here's some trivia to illustrate (and underscore):
From when until when was the TEC-9 produced, and why was it discontinued?

Bonus question:
Where did the name for its successor, the AB-10, come from?

So you are claiming that the TEC9 was banned by name in the law, or are you just trying to twist things to fit your narrative?

I'm claiming that if you spend a few seconds googling for the answer to the first question, your question will be answered. (AB = After Ban, btw - but go google anyway since it should be humbling)

You have a lot of time on your hands. Are you some sort of military type stationed overseas?

Anonymous

02/17/2018 20:31 Subject: Re:Why are AR15s legal?

Anonymous wrote:It's kinda funny how everyone is dancing around the fact that AR15's were readily available during the Clinton AWB. They did not just become legal when the ban ended

The ban made them what they are, IMHO. Why buy some Fudd gun when you could own buy something the government didn't want you to have. It gave them a mystique. gun makers couldn't make NEW ones, but the Feds also couldn't just confiscate the old ones (see: 5th Amendment). Same with standard capacity magazines.

Had there been no AWB, my own belief is that the AR15 wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is today. And now it's the most popular rifle in the country.

Anonymous

02/17/2018 20:26 Subject: Re:Why are AR15s legal?

It's kinda funny how everyone is dancing around the fact that AR15's were readily available during the Clinton AWB. They did not just become legal when the ban ended

Anonymous

02/17/2018 20:25 Subject: Why are AR15s legal?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Show me this list of banned guns from the Clinton AWB "

Can you answer it? Yes or no?

NP here. You do not get to issue edicts that other people must follow. If you want information, try GOOGLE.

The point was that there was no list banning specific guns in the federal AWB. Anyone who claims there was is either uneducated, or lying

The irony here is rich.

Here's some trivia to illustrate (and underscore):
From when until when was the TEC-9 produced, and why was it discontinued?

Bonus question:
Where did the name for its successor, the AB-10, come from?

So you are claiming that the TEC9 was banned by name in the law, or are you just trying to twist things to fit your narrative?

I'm claiming that if you spend a few seconds googling for the answer to the first question, your question will be answered. (AB = After Ban, btw - but go google anyway since it should be humbling)