Anonymous wrote:Better to be the big fish in the small pond.

Agree. My daughter did this and was researching with the top professor in her major by sophomore year and was published by junior year. Others moved to many top notch graduates programs and a few with full rides. Hoping the same will happen to her.

Save the money, make your mark with top leadership positions, and get fantastic grades.

Better to be the big fish in the small pond.

U Miami is fantastic, if your kid is focused and not there for greek life. DC got a huge merit scholarship, chose the U over top state schools in CA. Every national scholar opportunity one competes for in big-ticket name schools is open to the U Miami top tier kids, with way less competition. The private aspect means small classes always available to them, graduating in 4 years or less is guaranteed if you want to. Switching majors, no problem. President Julio Frenk, from Harvard, has been recruiting some of the best talent to lead their departments.U Miami is more diverse and attracts top students from the South American/Latin American region than most schools. Bonus: Coral Gables is beautiful, the campus is amazing, and the beach is a $15 uber ride away.

Note to self: Miami Umiversiry, the public college in Ohio, was once ranked a top 3 party school by an unknown entity.

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Anonymous wrote:Miami is not a no name school. That's utterly effing ridiculous. Everyone has heard of the University of Miami.

In Miami, yes.

umm, everywhere. I am a European and I heard of it.

I am a European with an Ivy education. Fully aware of UVA since I was a teen. Literally never heard of U of Miami until this thread, and I am living in DC, almost 50.

Anyone who tells you UVA is internationally known is either a lair or not telling the truth.

Go look at College Confidential and read all the posts from international students who did not recently get in on Early Action or were deferred. Look at their stats. You clearly don't know what has been happening in the college and university world in the last ten years. OP, go with UVA if your son thinks he wants to go to grad school. he won't get into a good grad program from Miami.

I get the sense you are VERY unfamiliar with higher education in general.

Hardly. Come on, everyone knows Miami is a party school! https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/top-party-schools/

It it. But again, if you think a student won’t get into a good grad school because they went to UMiami, you know absolutely nothing about higher education.

But thanks for posting a who cares ranking that list MIAMI UNIVERSITY as a top party school.

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Anonymous wrote:Miami is not a no name school. That's utterly effing ridiculous. Everyone has heard of the University of Miami.

In Miami, yes.

umm, everywhere. I am a European and I heard of it.

I am a European with an Ivy education. Fully aware of UVA since I was a teen. Literally never heard of U of Miami until this thread, and I am living in DC, almost 50.

Anyone who tells you UVA is internationally known is either a lair or not telling the truth.

Go look at College Confidential and read all the posts from international students who did not recently get in on Early Action or were deferred. Look at their stats. You clearly don't know what has been happening in the college and university world in the last ten years. OP, go with UVA if your son thinks he wants to go to grad school. he won't get into a good grad program from Miami.

I get the sense you are VERY unfamiliar with higher education in general.

Hardly. Come on, everyone knows Miami is a party school! https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/top-party-schools/

LOL!!!! So Miami at #19...oh no that party school is going to stop you from getting into a good grad school! But UVA at 25 is totally OK!

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Anonymous wrote:Miami is not a no name school. That's utterly effing ridiculous. Everyone has heard of the University of Miami.

In Miami, yes.

umm, everywhere. I am a European and I heard of it.

I am a European with an Ivy education. Fully aware of UVA since I was a teen. Literally never heard of U of Miami until this thread, and I am living in DC, almost 50.

Anyone who tells you UVA is internationally known is either a lair or not telling the truth.

Go look at College Confidential and read all the posts from international students who did not recently get in on Early Action or were deferred. Look at their stats. You clearly don't know what has been happening in the college and university world in the last ten years. OP, go with UVA if your son thinks he wants to go to grad school. he won't get into a good grad program from Miami.

I get the sense you are VERY unfamiliar with higher education in general.

Hardly. Come on, everyone knows Miami is a party school! https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/top-party-schools/

It it. But again, if you think a student won’t get into a good grad school because they went to UMiami, you know absolutely nothing about higher education.

I would pick Uva over the other 2 even at full freight!! No brainer.

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Anonymous wrote:Do. Not. Turn. Down. U.V.A.

OP says that UVA would cost $65K per year. The only people who should be paying that much for UVA (or any school, really) are foreign students who are buying their way into the US, or rich people who can afford to pay full sticker. That is NOT what a middle-class person should be paying for college

I think the fact that they can consider paying OOS or private tuition in general puts them above middle class. Just saying.

No, she said $46,634 which is the UVA OOS rate - still a much better deal than LAC, SLACS and other institutions now at $72K a year. OP - go with UVA - your child will have a much better chance at elite grad programs from there, plus UVA has its own great law school, Darden School, etc. My DD is going thru the graduate application process now. Her professors have been amazingly accessible and helpful with letters of recommendation. We also have many relatives who went to Univ. of Miami. We would never even consider it for DD, who was a top student. Go read comments on Collegeconfidential.

PP you are ignoring the cost of room and board. The UVA out of state cost of attendance is currently $63,000.

https://sfs.virginia.edu/cost/17-18

You're right. I had the fees for only tuition. Did not include room and board.

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Anonymous wrote:Miami is not a no name school. That's utterly effing ridiculous. Everyone has heard of the University of Miami.

In Miami, yes.

umm, everywhere. I am a European and I heard of it.

I am a European with an Ivy education. Fully aware of UVA since I was a teen. Literally never heard of U of Miami until this thread, and I am living in DC, almost 50.

Anyone who tells you UVA is internationally known is either a lair or not telling the truth.

Go look at College Confidential and read all the posts from international students who did not recently get in on Early Action or were deferred. Look at their stats. You clearly don't know what has been happening in the college and university world in the last ten years. OP, go with UVA if your son thinks he wants to go to grad school. he won't get into a good grad program from Miami.

I get the sense you are VERY unfamiliar with higher education in general.

Hardly. Come on, everyone knows Miami is a party school! https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/top-party-schools/

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Anonymous wrote:Miami is not a no name school. That's utterly effing ridiculous. Everyone has heard of the University of Miami.

In Miami, yes.

umm, everywhere. I am a European and I heard of it.

I am a European with an Ivy education. Fully aware of UVA since I was a teen. Literally never heard of U of Miami until this thread, and I am living in DC, almost 50.

Anyone who tells you UVA is internationally known is either a lair or not telling the truth.

Go look at College Confidential and read all the posts from international students who did not recently get in on Early Action or were deferred. Look at their stats. You clearly don't know what has been happening in the college and university world in the last ten years. OP, go with UVA if your son thinks he wants to go to grad school. he won't get into a good grad program from Miami.

I get the sense you are VERY unfamiliar with higher education in general.

Anonymous wrote:Do. Not. Turn. Down. U.V.A.

It’s good to see that the high schoolers found this thread. Because their comments are so totally THE. BEST. EVER. O.M.G.

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Anonymous wrote:Do. Not. Turn. Down. U.V.A.

OP says that UVA would cost $65K per year. The only people who should be paying that much for UVA (or any school, really) are foreign students who are buying their way into the US, or rich people who can afford to pay full sticker. That is NOT what a middle-class person should be paying for college

I think the fact that they can consider paying OOS or private tuition in general puts them above middle class. Just saying.

No, she said $46,634 which is the UVA OOS rate - still a much better deal than LAC, SLACS and other institutions now at $72K a year. OP - go with UVA - your child will have a much better chance at elite grad programs from there, plus UVA has its own great law school, Darden School, etc. My DD is going thru the graduate application process now. Her professors have been amazingly accessible and helpful with letters of recommendation. We also have many relatives who went to Univ. of Miami. We would never even consider it for DD, who was a top student. Go read comments on Collegeconfidential.

PP you are ignoring the cost of room and board. The UVA out of state cost of attendance is currently $63,000.

https://sfs.virginia.edu/cost/17-18

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Anonymous wrote:Do. Not. Turn. Down. U.V.A.

OP says that UVA would cost $65K per year. The only people who should be paying that much for UVA (or any school, really) are foreign students who are buying their way into the US, or rich people who can afford to pay full sticker. That is NOT what a middle-class person should be paying for college

I think the fact that they can consider paying OOS or private tuition in general puts them above middle class. Just saying.

No, she said $46,634 which is the UVA OOS rate - still a much better deal than LAC, SLACS and other institutions now at $72K a year. OP - go with UVA - your child will have a much better chance at elite grad programs from there, plus UVA has its own great law school, Darden School, etc. My DD is going thru the graduate application process now. Her professors have been amazingly accessible and helpful with letters of recommendation. We also have many relatives who went to Univ. of Miami. We would never even consider it for DD, who was a top student. Go read comments on Collegeconfidential.

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Anonymous wrote:Do. Not. Turn. Down. U.V.A.

OP says that UVA would cost $65K per year. The only people who should be paying that much for UVA (or any school, really) are foreign students who are buying their way into the US, or rich people who can afford to pay full sticker. That is NOT what a middle-class person should be paying for college

I think the fact that they can consider paying OOS or private tuition in general puts them above middle class. Just saying.