Anonymous
Post 01/13/2018 14:04     Subject: youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d like to give some props to PWC. Somehow PWSI and NVSC appear to do just fine with attracting minorities and playing at CCL and NPL levels of competition while keeping the price lower than other clubs.



Very true, their prices for the season, including tournaments, is under $2k. Quite a feat if you ask me. Also though, it is a rather expansive county not necessarily wealthy as well, even though there are pockets. Their teams always have a representative mix of races, both boys and girls. Frankly, that may have something to do with their competitiveness.


tbh, I think their competitiveness is middle of the road. not consistently high. And i’d really like to see how many kid, and their level of play, get supplemental training from HP Elite and surrounding that potentially obscures the true cost of their low cost approach.


Not with either of the two clubs but we spend around $2000/year at HP Elite. That covers a clinic most of the year and a couple camps. 1 on 1 private training could be another $500-1k on top of that depending on how often.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2018 09:37     Subject: youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
Not trying to be obtuse. Looks to me some persian, asian, latino influences. Just hard to tell with that poor res picture.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2018 09:21     Subject: youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
Anonymous wrote:Rec level soccer has gotten a reputation as an "immigrant's" game. With how hostile our country is to brown people right now, no surprise people aren't flocking to soccer.

It's not just scheduling and travel. It's a perception of the sport and the kinds of people who play it, I'm sorry to say.


Chicken or egg?

Those Hispanic, AA, or African parents see 150 for season as a good deal, and keep going to rec.

Parents with surplus income look to travel to avoid those types of experiences for themselves and their children.

One had to start first...
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2018 22:10     Subject: youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
Rec level soccer has gotten a reputation as an "immigrant's" game. With how hostile our country is to brown people right now, no surprise people aren't flocking to soccer.

It's not just scheduling and travel. It's a perception of the sport and the kinds of people who play it, I'm sorry to say.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2018 22:01     Subject: Re:youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the Mclean HS 2017 Varsity soccer team picture and tell me how many AA or Hispanics players do you see in the picture: http://www.mcleanactivities.org/main/teamschedule/id/3800/seasonid/3967514



None. But that's McLean - mostly whites and some Asians. What's your point?

And to the 16:54 PP - you're can't be serious, there isn't 11 bi-racial kids in that picture. Why're you being purposely obtuse?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2018 17:02     Subject: youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d like to give some props to PWC. Somehow PWSI and NVSC appear to do just fine with attracting minorities and playing at CCL and NPL levels of competition while keeping the price lower than other clubs.



Very true, their prices for the season, including tournaments, is under $2k. Quite a feat if you ask me. Also though, it is a rather expansive county not necessarily wealthy as well, even though there are pockets. Their teams always have a representative mix of races, both boys and girls. Frankly, that may have something to do with their competitiveness.


tbh, I think their competitiveness is middle of the road. not consistently high. And i’d really like to see how many kid, and their level of play, get supplemental training from HP Elite and surrounding that potentially obscures the true cost of their low cost approach.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2018 16:59     Subject: youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:think youth basketball growth has something to do with it?


No, do you?


So, you think “Youth basketball growth” explains why white kids predominate in high level Travel soccer in this area? Following the president’s racist “Xxxxhole countries” remark, I find this comment blind, ignorant, and/or unfunny. There are tons of black, Hispanic, and otherwise non-white kids in this area who’d like to play high level soccer, but who don’t have access.

It’s offensive to pretend not to see the problem with this statement given the diversity in this area.


Actually, some of those countries are corrupt shitholes - not a glamorous phrase, but it has nothing to do with the color of their skin, but more with the culture of corruption.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/455391/norway-or-haiti-trump-holes-and-our-real-immigration-scandals


The people living in those countries have to deal with the corrupt politicians and the corrupt government workers that aren't paid enough to they try to pad their pocket from the people they govern and are supposed to serve. It becomes a part of their life, it certainly isn't a part of their culture.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2018 16:54     Subject: youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
It’s hard to tell all the minorities in that pic, but I would guess that 11 of those 21 have at least one minority parent.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2018 16:54     Subject: youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
Anonymous wrote:I’d like to give some props to PWC. Somehow PWSI and NVSC appear to do just fine with attracting minorities and playing at CCL and NPL levels of competition while keeping the price lower than other clubs.



Very true, their prices for the season, including tournaments, is under $2k. Quite a feat if you ask me. Also though, it is a rather expansive county not necessarily wealthy as well, even though there are pockets. Their teams always have a representative mix of races, both boys and girls. Frankly, that may have something to do with their competitiveness.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2018 16:52     Subject: youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:think youth basketball growth has something to do with it?


No, do you?


So, you think “Youth basketball growth” explains why white kids predominate in high level Travel soccer in this area? Following the president’s racist “Xxxxhole countries” remark, I find this comment blind, ignorant, and/or unfunny. There are tons of black, Hispanic, and otherwise non-white kids in this area who’d like to play high level soccer, but who don’t have access.

It’s offensive to pretend not to see the problem with this statement given the diversity in this area.


Actually, some of those countries are corrupt shitholes - not a glamorous phrase, but it has nothing to do with the color of their skin, but more with the culture of corruption.


http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/455391/norway-or-haiti-trump-holes-and-our-real-immigration-scandals
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2018 15:36     Subject: Re:youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
Take a look at the Mclean HS 2017 Varsity soccer team picture and tell me how many AA or Hispanics players do you see in the picture: http://www.mcleanactivities.org/main/teamschedule/id/3800/seasonid/3967514

Anonymous
Post 01/12/2018 15:07     Subject: youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
I’d like to give some props to PWC. Somehow PWSI and NVSC appear to do just fine with attracting minorities and playing at CCL and NPL levels of competition while keeping the price lower than other clubs.



Anonymous
Post 01/12/2018 13:30     Subject: youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:think youth basketball growth has something to do with it?


No, do you?


So, you think “Youth basketball growth” explains why white kids predominate in high level Travel soccer in this area? Following the president’s racist “Xxxxhole countries” remark, I find this comment blind, ignorant, and/or unfunny. There are tons of black, Hispanic, and otherwise non-white kids in this area who’d like to play high level soccer, but who don’t have access.

It’s offensive to pretend not to see the problem with this statement given the diversity in this area.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2018 11:09     Subject: youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
Looks like soccer is catching up to baseball in terms of popularity, according to WaPo
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2018 21:08     Subject: Re:youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...
I do. The participation rate also can only grow so much.