Anonymous wrote:Saw movie for 1st time today and definitely liked it more than TFA. I didn't get the feeling Luke was whiny in this film. He was by far the most annoying character to me in his other episodes and I ended up actually liking him. I can't believe that after 30+ years of not liking him.

Also the whole Force connection thing btw Rey and Kylo Ren was choreographed by Snoke -- I thought that was what he said. Or maybe just the part where they touched? I will be grossed out by a romantic relationship btw them. That will end it all for me.

I guess I need to see Rogue One? I had purposely skipped bc I couldn't invest anything into it after how much I disliked TFA.

Rogue One was better than The Last Jedi IMO.

Saw movie for 1st time today and definitely liked it more than TFA. I didn't get the feeling Luke was whiny in this film. He was by far the most annoying character to me in his other episodes and I ended up actually liking him. I can't believe that after 30+ years of not liking him.

Also the whole Force connection thing btw Rey and Kylo Ren was choreographed by Snoke -- I thought that was what he said. Or maybe just the part where they touched? I will be grossed out by a romantic relationship btw them. That will end it all for me.

I guess I need to see Rogue One? I had purposely skipped bc I couldn't invest anything into it after how much I disliked TFA.

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Anonymous wrote:The puffin things were the cutest creatures ever.

Yes. My brother told me the real island was full of puffins so they decided to just put them in the movie since they couldn't get rid of them.

Nice.

The frog-like women in maid’s costumes on the island was hilarious as well. So ludicrous.

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Anonymous wrote:I enjoyed the movie but it was far from perfect. Carrie Fisher's passing gave the movie a little more gravity than what it would have had otherwise.

It was kind of a weird ending with no real clues to what will happen in the next installment or even what we might have to look forward to. I like the theme that the existence of the Resistence gives people/children hope. But the rebels have been nearly destroyed that it seems like some large group will need to come out of nowhere to help rebuild.

I did think it was cool how the scene with Ray, Ben/Kylo Ren, Snoke so clearly paralleled the scene with Luke, Vader, and the Emppero

"We're going to win this war not by fighting what we hate, but saving what we love."

Rey won't be able to destroy Kylo Ren for the part of him she hates, she'll try to save him for the part of him she loves.

I like this theory and think it makes sense.

Why does she love any part of him? What is this background that makes her love him? Is it, "Oh, a bad boy, let me be a stupid girl and love a bad boy?"

Agree. The stupid trope of "a bad man needs the love of a good woman in order to become good himself" just needs to die already.

Except that the next film was supposed to be Leia’s Film- so it should have been about a mother’s love and redemption. ( like this was Luke’s film) Unfortunately, that cannot happen now.

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Anonymous wrote:I loved it. I loved how they developed the characters without being heavy handed about it, I loved how the plot harkened back to the original trilogy (especially Episode V) without simply rewriting it, I loved how they included so many significant female characters and yet didn't elevate them as goddesses the way movies so often do when they're making a conscious push for gender diversity; they were flawed human beings, just like the men. My daughter is intrigued by Star Wars but still a bit young for it, and in the middle of the movie I thought to myself that I can't wait to show her this movie in the saga.

I can not imagine anyone coming to this conclusion. Somewhere Joseph Campbell is weeping for starting this and then seeing it go so far off the rails.

I am a die hard Star Wars fan and I really liked this one, too. I actually thought it was more like the original movies than any of them so far -- with the cheesy humor and the weird side characters (like the birds and the milking of the monster - those totally would have happened in 4-6). I do however agree that it was too long and the casino scene was pointless (as was the whole Finn/Rose plot line).

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Anonymous wrote:I enjoyed the movie but it was far from perfect. Carrie Fisher's passing gave the movie a little more gravity than what it would have had otherwise.

It was kind of a weird ending with no real clues to what will happen in the next installment or even what we might have to look forward to. I like the theme that the existence of the Resistence gives people/children hope. But the rebels have been nearly destroyed that it seems like some large group will need to come out of nowhere to help rebuild.

I did think it was cool how the scene with Ray, Ben/Kylo Ren, Snoke so clearly paralleled the scene with Luke, Vader, and the Emppero

"We're going to win this war not by fighting what we hate, but saving what we love."

Rey won't be able to destroy Kylo Ren for the part of him she hates, she'll try to save him for the part of him she loves.

I like this theory and think it makes sense.

Why does she love any part of him? What is this background that makes her love him? Is it, "Oh, a bad boy, let me be a stupid girl and love a bad boy?"

It's that she recognizes he is more than just a "bad boy." Remember she felt her own temptation by the dark side, so she can understand his temptation. And she sympathizes with the fact that, from his perspective, he was trying to do right thing and his uncle/mentor tried to kill him anyway. Their force-enabled conversations made her realize that he's not just some one-dimensional bad guy, he has more depth and conflict than that. It's not like she fully embraced him, she was willing to walk away when he wanted her to go in a direction she couldn't get on board with. But I think she believes the conflict in him means there's potential for redemption, and her empathy with how he ended up there means she will want to give it her best shot.