Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 11:41     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Anonymous wrote:Dude, it was widely known gossip. This is what is mind boggling you don't understand the difference.

Again if it were such common knowledge why didn't you post it earlier?


Here’s a piece from a comedian who points out it was an open secret within the industry. I guess it was “gossip” in the same way talk about Weinstein’s actions was gossip.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/i-did-a-stand-up-set-about-louis-cks-offenses-but-it-didnt-feel-like-enough/2017/11/10/e1925700-c5da-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html?utm_term=.4061099b6803
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 11:18     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Anonymous wrote:Dude, it was widely known gossip. This is what is mind boggling you don't understand the difference.

Again if it were such common knowledge why didn't you post it earlier?


It's funny you call women's accounts of being sexually assaulted "gossip", how telling.

And first of all, this is an inane question, which is why I didn't answer it, because my not posting a DCUM thread is nowhere near equivalent to Stewart publicly supporting him and mocking and dismissing those who brought up his sex crimes. But... I wasn't on DCUM until very recently- again, not that it's relevant, but I'll be nice enough to entertain it.

Now that I've answered your inane question, answer the one you've dodged for several pages: Why don't you address how everyone reads Stewart as being dismissive and mocking and yet you read it as respectful? Care to address why your social perceptions are so off?
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 11:14     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Dude, it was widely known gossip. This is what is mind boggling you don't understand the difference.

Again if it were such common knowledge why didn't you post it earlier?
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 11:09     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart was busy writing and producing the Daily Show for over a decade delivering news:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/young-get-news-from-comedy-central/

He wasn't following random tweets or reading Gawker.


It was his job to be up on the news.


One page of anonymous Gawker gossip, a deleted podcast, and unattributed tweets aren't news.


3 separate sources you have arbitrarily dismissed because you said so. Even though they were widely discussed and have been proven to be true.

Wishful thinking on your part.


Widely discussed by whom? Who are all comedians? Who were the authors of the Gawker blurb? Who were their sources? This is not example of journalism. I'm not dismissing anything or anyone. You need to apply critical thinking skills not just play Monday morning quarterback.

This is the wiki description of the daily show: During Stewart's tenure the show became more strongly focused on politics and the national media, in contrast with the pop culture focus during Kilborn's tenure. Describing itself as a fake news program, The Daily Show draws its comedy and satire from recent news stories, political figures, media organizations, and often, aspects of the show itself. The show typically opens with a long monologue relating to recent headlines and frequently features exchanges with one or more of several correspondents, who adopt absurd or humorously exaggerated takes on current events against the host's straight man persona. The final segment is devoted to a celebrity interview, with guests ranging from actors and musicians to nonfiction authors and political figures.

Stewart spent most of his time reading and discussing heavy duty topics, e.g.:
https://mic.com/articles/123466/jon-stewart-daily-show-book-recommendations#.T6YjjhfWu

He spent time and effort trying to protect journalists, e.g. Rose water or the rally he and Colbert did.

Op, if this was such a well known truth, how come you didn't post the "allegations" naming names years ago?


Dude, we know you're a Stewart fanboy. His other accomplishments does not make it okay for him to publicly support a serial sexual abuser. Or to mock someone's attempts to discuss said widely known allegations.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 11:04     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart was busy writing and producing the Daily Show for over a decade delivering news:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/young-get-news-from-comedy-central/

He wasn't following random tweets or reading Gawker.


It was his job to be up on the news.


One page of anonymous Gawker gossip, a deleted podcast, and unattributed tweets aren't news.


3 separate sources you have arbitrarily dismissed because you said so. Even though they were widely discussed and have been proven to be true.

Wishful thinking on your part.


Widely discussed by whom? Who are all comedians? Who were the authors of the Gawker blurb? Who were their sources? This is not example of journalism. I'm not dismissing anything or anyone. You need to apply critical thinking skills not just play Monday morning quarterback.

This is the wiki description of the daily show: During Stewart's tenure the show became more strongly focused on politics and the national media, in contrast with the pop culture focus during Kilborn's tenure. Describing itself as a fake news program, The Daily Show draws its comedy and satire from recent news stories, political figures, media organizations, and often, aspects of the show itself. The show typically opens with a long monologue relating to recent headlines and frequently features exchanges with one or more of several correspondents, who adopt absurd or humorously exaggerated takes on current events against the host's straight man persona. The final segment is devoted to a celebrity interview, with guests ranging from actors and musicians to nonfiction authors and political figures.

Stewart spent most of his time reading and discussing heavy duty topics, e.g.:
https://mic.com/articles/123466/jon-stewart-daily-show-book-recommendations#.T6YjjhfWu

He spent time and effort trying to protect journalists, e.g. Rose water or the rally he and Colbert did.

Op, if this was such a well known truth, how come you didn't post the "allegations" naming names years ago?
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 10:42     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart was busy writing and producing the Daily Show for over a decade delivering news:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/young-get-news-from-comedy-central/

He wasn't following random tweets or reading Gawker.


It was his job to be up on the news.


One page of anonymous Gawker gossip, a deleted podcast, and unattributed tweets aren't news.


3 separate sources you have arbitrarily dismissed because you said so. Even though they were widely discussed and have been proven to be true.

Wishful thinking on your part.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 10:41     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart was busy writing and producing the Daily Show for over a decade delivering news:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/young-get-news-from-comedy-central/

He wasn't following random tweets or reading Gawker.


It was his job to be up on the news.


One page of anonymous Gawker gossip, a deleted podcast, and unattributed tweets aren't news.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 10:15     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart was busy writing and producing the Daily Show for over a decade delivering news:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/young-get-news-from-comedy-central/

He wasn't following random tweets or reading Gawker.


I guess pretty much every single other comedian follows random tweets then. Because everyone else had heard the rumors.

This is how it is with rich and powerful men. Rather than taking action to make a difference, they maintain their plausible deniability for as long as humanly possible. And jackasses like PP are always there to defend them.


Yep. +10000

Luckily I think most people disregard the "THIS IS A WITCH HUNT!!!1!!" people like PP. Especially lately having seen how deep it goes. That "plausible deniability" thing used to work a charm but not so much anymore with all the news lately.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 10:11     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart was busy writing and producing the Daily Show for over a decade delivering news:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/young-get-news-from-comedy-central/

He wasn't following random tweets or reading Gawker.


I guess pretty much every single other comedian follows random tweets then. Because everyone else had heard the rumors.

This is how it is with rich and powerful men. Rather than taking action to make a difference, they maintain their plausible deniability for as long as humanly possible. And jackasses like PP are always there to defend them.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 09:47     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart was busy writing and producing the Daily Show for over a decade delivering news:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/young-get-news-from-comedy-central/

He wasn't following random tweets or reading Gawker.


It was his job to be up on the news.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 09:46     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Jon Stewart was busy writing and producing the Daily Show for over a decade delivering news:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/young-get-news-from-comedy-central/

He wasn't following random tweets or reading Gawker.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 09:32     Subject: Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
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Anonymous wrote:I’m so sick of smug men who think they get to decide what’s worthy of discussion.


THIS x100000000000000000000000000000


Yes. I feel slightly better about this knowing it is from 2016 and not like today, but still. Oh because someone saw it on social media it's not a thing Jon? Okie dokie.

His smugness is pretty insufferable. Hopefully he feels dumb about this now.




Come on - he was dismissive of the idea that he should know about and then base his interview questions on social media rumors that were pretty obscure at the time. The kid cited a podcast and "a couple of tweets" for his implication that Jon should have known. That WAS a laughable suggestion. Jon was totally serious about the actual issue of sexual assault, not smug at all.


The two bickering posters have not addressed this point. It seems possible that he was both mocking the basis for the claims (tweets, which Stewart publicly hates) and taking the sexual harassment claims as seriously as the time and facts provided allowed.


Jon must be REALLY out of the loop in his chosen field of work then. Tons of prominent comedians have come out this week admitting that it was an open secret. It should almost be concerning to him that he’s so clueless about the goings on in his own industry. Perhaps being so ignorant is a privilege afforded to him by being a rich white man.

Also, these days a lot of legitimate news is broken by Twitter. We don’t all sit down to watch the six o’clock news on tv anymore.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 07:32     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
The manner and brusqueness of his response made it seem like he was being told something he already knew and was trying to play it off. It was weird.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 07:31     Subject: Re:Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Again not "facts" pp.



It is a fact. Why don't you address how everyone reads Stewart as being dismissive and mocking and yet you read it as respectful? Care to address why your social perceptions are so off?


Address your cognitive distortions first.

Filtering We take the negative details and magnify them while filtering out all positive aspects of a situation. For instance, a person may pick out a single, unpleasant detail and dwell on it exclusively so that their vision of reality becomes darkened or distorted.

Over generalization In this cognitive distortion, we come to a general conclusion based on a single incident or a single piece of evidence. If something bad happens only once, we expect it to happen over and over again. A person may see a single, unpleasant event as part of a never-ending pattern of defeat.

Fallacy of fairness We feel resentful because we think we know what is fair, but other people won’t agree with us.

Always being right We are continually on trial to prove that our opinions and actions are correct. Being wrong is unthinkable and we will go to any length to demonstrate our rightness

Polarized thinking--black and right there is no middle ground


Just as I thought, you cannot answer the question. You talking philosophical nonsense only makes you look even more desperate to weasel your way out of answering it.

What you dont predict, just as you didn't expect it when you tried to misrepresent the video, forgetting that it was posted, is that people can see what your intentions are and exactly what you're doig.

Now... answer the question I levvied at you. Come on.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2017 07:29     Subject: Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I’m so sick of smug men who think they get to decide what’s worthy of discussion.


THIS x100000000000000000000000000000


Yes. I feel slightly better about this knowing it is from 2016 and not like today, but still. Oh because someone saw it on social media it's not a thing Jon? Okie dokie.


Not what he said. He said he didn't know and it was important.

More importantly, NOT everything you see on social media is real. Hence the Comet Pizza shooter.


No, not what I was saying. He smugly dismissed the guy, clearly a fan bringing up an important concern, and tried to make him look stupid. Had the audience laughing at him. Saying he hadn't seen "the tweets" as if social media is an insane way to get credible information. It is not. The fact that there is fake news doesn't = everything is fake news. Not how this works.

Jon Stewart's reaction is EXACTLY why people are silenced. Because you risk looking ridiculous if no one believes you. This guy looked ridiculous in the audience in 2016, and now he doesn't. Jon does though.


+1. His response was gross and dismissive. Ridiculous he tried to claim he isn't really plugged into...the industry of which he's been a part for years.