Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 21:39     Subject: ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Anonymous wrote:If ACA is *that* bad, then why are a few Rs holding out and not wanting to repeal it without a replacement?



Because all politicians are basically pussies.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 21:38     Subject: ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Not forget
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 21:38     Subject: Re:ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:.....also, to all you holier than thou liberals who think the lower-middle class isn't caring enough about providing free medical care to the poor (to their own detriment), would you be willing to sacrifice your OWN health care, and going "without," in order to give poor people what you had to give up? Because that is what has happened to many moderate earners.

I doubt you'd sacrifice your own health, skipping your needed treatments, so that the poor could get the treatments they need.


Now you're making shit up.


Not np, but this happened to our family. Could no longer afford deductibles and premiums so we go without. No annual physicals, well care etc. Cvs minute clinic if it's really bad. And let's. It forget that snake Ben Rhodes laughing on Charlie rises show, if you like your doctor you can keep it, if you like your plan, etc.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 21:14     Subject: ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
If ACA is *that* bad, then why are a few Rs holding out and not wanting to repeal it without a replacement?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 18:10     Subject: Re:ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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I'm talking about an individual earning $50k whose kids are grown. There is no help for someone like that under the current ACA.


Blame the GOP who refused for 6 years to bring any patches or fixes to the ACA for vote. The dems have tried.


Or, blame the Dems who created such a crappy program. Remember Jonathan Gruber--the architect of the ACA? Counting on the fact that Americans are "stupid"?


No, blame the GOP. 6 years of being able to fix/improve it is a greater amount of time than the 1 year it took to create it.


No. Dems are responsible for the ACA. If I produce crappy product at my job, I can't absolve myself of responsibility by whining about how my coworkers won't help me fix it.



Really? What is your job, a burger flipper at McDonalds? That's not how it works in a team-oriented environment. GOP has had control for the last 6 years and has failed to fix anything.


The ACA was created and passed by Dems. Everyone knows this. No one is buying what you guys are trying to sell.

(That's amusing that no one has to take responsibility for their work in your pretend office though! Does a Pegasus fly by with caramel lattes every afternoon too?)
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 18:00     Subject: Re:ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:.....also, to all you holier than thou liberals who think the lower-middle class isn't caring enough about providing free medical care to the poor (to their own detriment), would you be willing to sacrifice your OWN health care, and going "without," in order to give poor people what you had to give up? Because that is what has happened to many moderate earners.

I doubt you'd sacrifice your own health, skipping your needed treatments, so that the poor could get the treatments they need.


Now you're making shit up.

How is that making stuff up? I asked if liberals would be willing to go without health insurance in order to provide it free to poor people, which is what many moderate earners have had to do. I'm curious if they are as willing to make the sacrifices that they think moderate earners should be fine with.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 17:53     Subject: Re:ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Anonymous wrote:.....also, to all you holier than thou liberals who think the lower-middle class isn't caring enough about providing free medical care to the poor (to their own detriment), would you be willing to sacrifice your OWN health care, and going "without," in order to give poor people what you had to give up? Because that is what has happened to many moderate earners.

I doubt you'd sacrifice your own health, skipping your needed treatments, so that the poor could get the treatments they need.


Now you're making shit up.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 17:49     Subject: Re:ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
.....also, to all you holier than thou liberals who think the lower-middle class isn't caring enough about providing free medical care to the poor (to their own detriment), would you be willing to sacrifice your OWN health care, and going "without," in order to give poor people what you had to give up? Because that is what has happened to many moderate earners.

I doubt you'd sacrifice your own health, skipping your needed treatments, so that the poor could get the treatments they need.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 17:43     Subject: Re:ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm talking about an individual earning $50k whose kids are grown. There is no help for someone like that under the current ACA.


Blame the GOP who refused for 6 years to bring any patches or fixes to the ACA for vote. The dems have tried.


Or, blame the Dems who created such a crappy program. Remember Jonathan Gruber--the architect of the ACA? Counting on the fact that Americans are "stupid"?


No, blame the GOP. 6 years of being able to fix/improve it is a greater amount of time than the 1 year it took to create it.


No. Dems are responsible for the ACA. If I produce crappy product at my job, I can't absolve myself of responsibility by whining about how my coworkers won't help me fix it.



Really? What is your job, a burger flipper at McDonalds? That's not how it works in a team-oriented environment. GOP has had control for the last 6 years and has failed to fix anything.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 17:43     Subject: Re:ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Part of the problem is also the heavy subsidies. When people with low income can get better coverage for free than what is affordable to people on medium level income, the balance is wrong.



Bingo!


Poor people have it made in America!

Liberals have such a simplistic approach: Let's help poor people with their health needs. Period. If in doing so we make it impossible for lower-middle class people to pay for their own health needs, when they could previously, oh well. It's a price we think the working class needs to pay to provide more for the poor than they can afford for themselves.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 17:33     Subject: Re:ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Anonymous wrote:
Part of the problem is also the heavy subsidies. When people with low income can get better coverage for free than what is affordable to people on medium level income, the balance is wrong.



Bingo!


Poor people have it made in America!
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 17:20     Subject: Re:ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm talking about an individual earning $50k whose kids are grown. There is no help for someone like that under the current ACA.


Blame the GOP who refused for 6 years to bring any patches or fixes to the ACA for vote. The dems have tried.


Or, blame the Dems who created such a crappy program. Remember Jonathan Gruber--the architect of the ACA? Counting on the fact that Americans are "stupid"?


No, blame the GOP. 6 years of being able to fix/improve it is a greater amount of time than the 1 year it took to create it.


No. Dems are responsible for the ACA. If I produce crappy product at my job, I can't absolve myself of responsibility by whining about how my coworkers won't help me fix it.

Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 16:59     Subject: Re:ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm talking about an individual earning $50k whose kids are grown. There is no help for someone like that under the current ACA.


Blame the GOP who refused for 6 years to bring any patches or fixes to the ACA for vote. The dems have tried.


Or, blame the Dems who created such a crappy program. Remember Jonathan Gruber--the architect of the ACA? Counting on the fact that Americans are "stupid"?


No, blame the GOP. 6 years of being able to fix/improve it is a greater amount of time than the 1 year it took to create it.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 16:57     Subject: Re:ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm talking about an individual earning $50k whose kids are grown. There is no help for someone like that under the current ACA.


Blame the GOP who refused for 6 years to bring any patches or fixes to the ACA for vote. The dems have tried.


Or, blame the Dems who created such a crappy program. Remember Jonathan Gruber--the architect of the ACA? Counting on the fact that Americans are "stupid"?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 16:55     Subject: Re:ACA being repealed, why no outrage here?
Part of the problem is also the heavy subsidies. When people with low income can get better coverage for free than what is affordable to people on medium level income, the balance is wrong.



Bingo!