Anonymous
Post 08/08/2017 21:41     Subject: Re:Harvard Class of 2020

Entitlement was spawned by longstanding and multi-generational (legacy) affirmative action for Whites in America. And that's the whole crux of the matter. This is not fake news or history as most would like to forget and simply dismiss.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2017 21:35     Subject: Re:Harvard Class of 2020

One of the County' s venerable institutions: Walt Whitman High School

Note almost 80 percent of students make the Honor Roll and 20 percent (1/5) of the students have straight As. This phenomenon is increasingly typical around the County, City, State and Country. How do kids differentiate themselves to Colleges when a A grade is given out like M and Ms falling from the skies. Surely dummies here believe these honor roll kids from this one HS belong at Harvard or MIT or else some other brown kid took their place? In the 19th and 20th century this result would have been certain. There were no seats for brown Americans.

Honor Roll


First Grading Period 2015-2016

1542 Students Made the Honor Roll This Grading Period
out of 1983 Total Students for 77.76%

433 Freshmen, 361 Sophomores, 387 Juniors, 361 Seniors

*361 Students Received All Grades of A
23.41% of the Honor Roll and 18.20% of All Students

Congratulations to all these students!



Anonymous
Post 08/08/2017 17:39     Subject: Re:Harvard Class of 2020

The Asian fear is incredible. On one hand Asian kids study too much so they are robots and on the other A's are handed out like candy. i.e. no study required.
Even if this legal action goes nowhere, I'm glad its happening because it opens up the discussion. It is disturbing that in the DMV, reputed as the most educated region in the country, we could hear such negative stereotyping from all directions.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2017 17:37     Subject: Harvard Class of 2020

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^^NP here. Not taking sides but that is such a BS response and so over used on DCUM.


You're right of course but there is no upside to continuing an argument with an irrational actor.


There is an upside to admitting you played the game and lost. You thought that "getting in" was a game based on getting the highest score on the SAT and GPA and you were wrong. Instead of just accepting that you were wrong you want to point out into the world and say, the world is wrong.

It's not healthy, seek help.


What are you babbling on about? My DC was accepted at his first choice college which is ranked in the top 10. My wife and I both graduated from Ivy league institutions and have MBAs from top 10 schools. We understand far better than you ever will what the admissions process is all about.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2017 17:05     Subject: Re:Harvard Class of 2020

Anonymous wrote:
This!

My child is White, has a 4.2 GPA, takes all AP courses and a 1,400 SAT and doubt he will get into his preferred school.


What is really unique about an American student with straight As in the USA given in every city in America and every high school in America half the students have straight As (the majority are on the Honor rolls)?

Do you think Harvard has enough chairs to accommodate all your genius and brilliant children with straight As?

What does straight As mean in American education when As are given out like M and Ms across the land?

Straight As are quickly following the path of meaninglessness from an academic or intellectual perspective. If an American high school student doesn't have straight As there is something wrong with him or her!


That is total crap. You are wrong.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2017 14:44     Subject: Harvard Class of 2020

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^^NP here. Not taking sides but that is such a BS response and so over used on DCUM.


You're right of course but there is no upside to continuing an argument with an irrational actor.


There is an upside to admitting you played the game and lost. You thought that "getting in" was a game based on getting the highest score on the SAT and GPA and you were wrong. Instead of just accepting that you were wrong you want to point out into the world and say, the world is wrong.

It's not healthy, seek help.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2017 13:11     Subject: Harvard Class of 2020

Anonymous wrote:^^^NP here. Not taking sides but that is such a BS response and so over used on DCUM.


You're right of course but there is no upside to continuing an argument with an irrational actor.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2017 18:42     Subject: Harvard Class of 2020

^^^NP here. Not taking sides but that is such a BS response and so over used on DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2017 17:54     Subject: Re:Harvard Class of 2020

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if my lily white child should get a DNA test to see if she qualifies for a minority card like Senator Warren?


Haha......my daughter asked the same thing. She was hoping there was a native american great grandmother somewhere in our past.


My mom recently did a DNA test and the results showed she was majorly Hispanic. A huge surprise bc she grew up believing her ancestors were French. Maybe my DD will choose to check the Hispanic box on her college applications.


That is not what colleges care about anymore.

They are looking for '"1st generation to attend college" "s1t gen am" or "spent time is foster care" race really is useless on apps now

You still could dump your kid into the foster care system.


What planet do you live on? Race remains a major factor in admissions.


No. If 2 people have the exact same background but different race, they will be measured the same. If they had a "different" background they will be measured differently ... Like the white girl that worked as a janitor in her school.


Are you just being willfully ignorant or are you truly this ill-informed? What do you think affirmative action does? It attempts to balance the playing field by making significant accommodations for URM applicants. A Princeton study of race and admissions found that on average colleges were giving a 250 point accommodation for black students, something like 150 for latinos and a negative 70 for asians. Try and educate yourself on a topic before spouting off your nonsense.


Are you being willfully ignorant or are you truly this ill-informed? You think an Asian with a father who owns a company (I know rare) is measure the same way an Asian from Wootton HS. They are not. The Asian with a hook will get the same advantage as any kid with a hook.

You think a white lacrosse player at Harvard has the same SAT scores as a white person without a hook?

You think that a black student who is a recruited athlete has the same SAT scores as a black kid who does not play a sport.

You can't lump kids/races ... the math is not telling you the story.

A hispanic girl who is a 3rd generation american with rich parents and ancestors from Spain are not measured with the same stick as a hispanic girl who came to this country from El Salvador at 12. Her score that is 150 points lower than a white kid with food and tutors is way more impressive and tells a better story than your 150 points.



Being Asian is the opposite of having a hook. And the rest of your anecdotal hypotheticals are ridiculous. Just read the Princeton study and try not to be such a bore.


I have read all kinds of studies including the one that kids with his IQ are less successful than kids with IQ's in the "sweet spot".

The fact is that you thought you were playing a game and you thought you knew the rules, but you didn't and you pissed away 18 years of your kids life test prepping them instead of preparing them for life.

The solution is to stop taking Asians with high test scores and take the ones in the "sweet spot" who have a more interesting story.

Ad hominem argument shows that you don't actually have an argument... it's like a white flag, I accept your surrender.


You are clearly unhinged. Seek help.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2017 16:30     Subject: Re:Harvard Class of 2020

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wonder if my lily white child should get a DNA test to see if she qualifies for a minority card like Senator Warren?


Haha......my daughter asked the same thing. She was hoping there was a native american great grandmother somewhere in our past.


My mom recently did a DNA test and the results showed she was majorly Hispanic. A huge surprise bc she grew up believing her ancestors were French. Maybe my DD will choose to check the Hispanic box on her college applications.


That is not what colleges care about anymore.

They are looking for '"1st generation to attend college" "s1t gen am" or "spent time is foster care" race really is useless on apps now

You still could dump your kid into the foster care system.


What planet do you live on? Race remains a major factor in admissions.


No. If 2 people have the exact same background but different race, they will be measured the same. If they had a "different" background they will be measured differently ... Like the white girl that worked as a janitor in her school.


Are you just being willfully ignorant or are you truly this ill-informed? What do you think affirmative action does? It attempts to balance the playing field by making significant accommodations for URM applicants. A Princeton study of race and admissions found that on average colleges were giving a 250 point accommodation for black students, something like 150 for latinos and a negative 70 for asians. Try and educate yourself on a topic before spouting off your nonsense.


Are you being willfully ignorant or are you truly this ill-informed? You think an Asian with a father who owns a company (I know rare) is measure the same way an Asian from Wootton HS. They are not. The Asian with a hook will get the same advantage as any kid with a hook.

You think a white lacrosse player at Harvard has the same SAT scores as a white person without a hook?

You think that a black student who is a recruited athlete has the same SAT scores as a black kid who does not play a sport.

You can't lump kids/races ... the math is not telling you the story.

A hispanic girl who is a 3rd generation american with rich parents and ancestors from Spain are not measured with the same stick as a hispanic girl who came to this country from El Salvador at 12. Her score that is 150 points lower than a white kid with food and tutors is way more impressive and tells a better story than your 150 points.

Great- so let's base it on SES then.


or base it on the kids that are the most interesting and throw the BS testing away.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2017 16:30     Subject: Re:Harvard Class of 2020

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wonder if my lily white child should get a DNA test to see if she qualifies for a minority card like Senator Warren?


Haha......my daughter asked the same thing. She was hoping there was a native american great grandmother somewhere in our past.


My mom recently did a DNA test and the results showed she was majorly Hispanic. A huge surprise bc she grew up believing her ancestors were French. Maybe my DD will choose to check the Hispanic box on her college applications.


That is not what colleges care about anymore.

They are looking for '"1st generation to attend college" "s1t gen am" or "spent time is foster care" race really is useless on apps now

You still could dump your kid into the foster care system.


What planet do you live on? Race remains a major factor in admissions.


No. If 2 people have the exact same background but different race, they will be measured the same. If they had a "different" background they will be measured differently ... Like the white girl that worked as a janitor in her school.


Are you just being willfully ignorant or are you truly this ill-informed? What do you think affirmative action does? It attempts to balance the playing field by making significant accommodations for URM applicants. A Princeton study of race and admissions found that on average colleges were giving a 250 point accommodation for black students, something like 150 for latinos and a negative 70 for asians. Try and educate yourself on a topic before spouting off your nonsense.


Are you being willfully ignorant or are you truly this ill-informed? You think an Asian with a father who owns a company (I know rare) is measure the same way an Asian from Wootton HS. They are not. The Asian with a hook will get the same advantage as any kid with a hook.

You think a white lacrosse player at Harvard has the same SAT scores as a white person without a hook?

You think that a black student who is a recruited athlete has the same SAT scores as a black kid who does not play a sport.

You can't lump kids/races ... the math is not telling you the story.

A hispanic girl who is a 3rd generation american with rich parents and ancestors from Spain are not measured with the same stick as a hispanic girl who came to this country from El Salvador at 12. Her score that is 150 points lower than a white kid with food and tutors is way more impressive and tells a better story than your 150 points.



Being Asian is the opposite of having a hook. And the rest of your anecdotal hypotheticals are ridiculous. Just read the Princeton study and try not to be such a bore.


I have read all kinds of studies including the one that kids with his IQ are less successful than kids with IQ's in the "sweet spot".

The fact is that you thought you were playing a game and you thought you knew the rules, but you didn't and you pissed away 18 years of your kids life test prepping them instead of preparing them for life.

The solution is to stop taking Asians with high test scores and take the ones in the "sweet spot" who have a more interesting story.

Ad hominem argument shows that you don't actually have an argument... it's like a white flag, I accept your surrender.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2017 16:19     Subject: Re:Harvard Class of 2020

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wonder if my lily white child should get a DNA test to see if she qualifies for a minority card like Senator Warren?


Haha......my daughter asked the same thing. She was hoping there was a native american great grandmother somewhere in our past.


My mom recently did a DNA test and the results showed she was majorly Hispanic. A huge surprise bc she grew up believing her ancestors were French. Maybe my DD will choose to check the Hispanic box on her college applications.


That is not what colleges care about anymore.

They are looking for '"1st generation to attend college" "s1t gen am" or "spent time is foster care" race really is useless on apps now

You still could dump your kid into the foster care system.


What planet do you live on? Race remains a major factor in admissions.


No. If 2 people have the exact same background but different race, they will be measured the same. If they had a "different" background they will be measured differently ... Like the white girl that worked as a janitor in her school.


Are you just being willfully ignorant or are you truly this ill-informed? What do you think affirmative action does? It attempts to balance the playing field by making significant accommodations for URM applicants. A Princeton study of race and admissions found that on average colleges were giving a 250 point accommodation for black students, something like 150 for latinos and a negative 70 for asians. Try and educate yourself on a topic before spouting off your nonsense.


Are you being willfully ignorant or are you truly this ill-informed? You think an Asian with a father who owns a company (I know rare) is measure the same way an Asian from Wootton HS. They are not. The Asian with a hook will get the same advantage as any kid with a hook.

You think a white lacrosse player at Harvard has the same SAT scores as a white person without a hook?

You think that a black student who is a recruited athlete has the same SAT scores as a black kid who does not play a sport.

You can't lump kids/races ... the math is not telling you the story.

A hispanic girl who is a 3rd generation american with rich parents and ancestors from Spain are not measured with the same stick as a hispanic girl who came to this country from El Salvador at 12. Her score that is 150 points lower than a white kid with food and tutors is way more impressive and tells a better story than your 150 points.



Being Asian is the opposite of having a hook. And the rest of your anecdotal hypotheticals are ridiculous. Just read the Princeton study and try not to be such a bore.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2017 13:06     Subject: Re:Harvard Class of 2020

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wonder if my lily white child should get a DNA test to see if she qualifies for a minority card like Senator Warren?


Haha......my daughter asked the same thing. She was hoping there was a native american great grandmother somewhere in our past.


My mom recently did a DNA test and the results showed she was majorly Hispanic. A huge surprise bc she grew up believing her ancestors were French. Maybe my DD will choose to check the Hispanic box on her college applications.


That is not what colleges care about anymore.

They are looking for '"1st generation to attend college" "s1t gen am" or "spent time is foster care" race really is useless on apps now

You still could dump your kid into the foster care system.


What planet do you live on? Race remains a major factor in admissions.


No. If 2 people have the exact same background but different race, they will be measured the same. If they had a "different" background they will be measured differently ... Like the white girl that worked as a janitor in her school.


Are you just being willfully ignorant or are you truly this ill-informed? What do you think affirmative action does? It attempts to balance the playing field by making significant accommodations for URM applicants. A Princeton study of race and admissions found that on average colleges were giving a 250 point accommodation for black students, something like 150 for latinos and a negative 70 for asians. Try and educate yourself on a topic before spouting off your nonsense.


Are you being willfully ignorant or are you truly this ill-informed? You think an Asian with a father who owns a company (I know rare) is measure the same way an Asian from Wootton HS. They are not. The Asian with a hook will get the same advantage as any kid with a hook.

You think a white lacrosse player at Harvard has the same SAT scores as a white person without a hook?

You think that a black student who is a recruited athlete has the same SAT scores as a black kid who does not play a sport.

You can't lump kids/races ... the math is not telling you the story.

A hispanic girl who is a 3rd generation american with rich parents and ancestors from Spain are not measured with the same stick as a hispanic girl who came to this country from El Salvador at 12. Her score that is 150 points lower than a white kid with food and tutors is way more impressive and tells a better story than your 150 points.

Great- so let's base it on SES then.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2017 12:44     Subject: Re:Harvard Class of 2020

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wonder if my lily white child should get a DNA test to see if she qualifies for a minority card like Senator Warren?


Haha......my daughter asked the same thing. She was hoping there was a native american great grandmother somewhere in our past.


My mom recently did a DNA test and the results showed she was majorly Hispanic. A huge surprise bc she grew up believing her ancestors were French. Maybe my DD will choose to check the Hispanic box on her college applications.


That is not what colleges care about anymore.

They are looking for '"1st generation to attend college" "s1t gen am" or "spent time is foster care" race really is useless on apps now

You still could dump your kid into the foster care system.


What planet do you live on? Race remains a major factor in admissions.


No. If 2 people have the exact same background but different race, they will be measured the same. If they had a "different" background they will be measured differently ... Like the white girl that worked as a janitor in her school.


Are you just being willfully ignorant or are you truly this ill-informed? What do you think affirmative action does? It attempts to balance the playing field by making significant accommodations for URM applicants. A Princeton study of race and admissions found that on average colleges were giving a 250 point accommodation for black students, something like 150 for latinos and a negative 70 for asians. Try and educate yourself on a topic before spouting off your nonsense.


Are you being willfully ignorant or are you truly this ill-informed? You think an Asian with a father who owns a company (I know rare) is measure the same way an Asian from Wootton HS. They are not. The Asian with a hook will get the same advantage as any kid with a hook.

You think a white lacrosse player at Harvard has the same SAT scores as a white person without a hook?

You think that a black student who is a recruited athlete has the same SAT scores as a black kid who does not play a sport.

You can't lump kids/races ... the math is not telling you the story.

A hispanic girl who is a 3rd generation american with rich parents and ancestors from Spain are not measured with the same stick as a hispanic girl who came to this country from El Salvador at 12. Her score that is 150 points lower than a white kid with food and tutors is way more impressive and tells a better story than your 150 points.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2017 12:10     Subject: Re:Harvard Class of 2020

Entitlement grew from longstanding and generational affirmative action for my race...whites.... in America. Any bone head with, at least, below average knowledge of US history cannot refute this fact.