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Second top tier is still majority male.... try again.... sorry you aren't hot enough to land an alpha male lol

The bad news for you is that the alpha males who do go to law school or business school don't want some annoying 30-something striver in a pantsuit like you. They'll go get an early 20s trophy wife who isn't obsessed with her stupid, meaningless "career".

so a career is stupid and meaningless if a woman pursues it - she's a pantsuited striver - but a prerequisite for a man? Why does the gender of the person change the value of a career?

LOL you are missing the whole point of this thread.

Hypergamy. Look it up.

Men do not give a shit about your stupid career. They want youth, beauty, fertility. To get that, they have to have a career. Your career will not get you a high-quality man. Youth, beauty, and fertility will do that.

Look at the NYT engagements page and see how is marrying high-quality men. It's not young beautiful Peggy Sues from the trailer parks. It's similarly situated and moneyed women.

You are still missing the point. They are being married for their beauty, not their stupid careers. Or are you going to tell me these women are fat and ugly?

Nope, you are. Beauty is helpful but it is not enough. A beautiful Peggy Sue loses to a beautiful upper class girl. Actually, a beautiful Peggy Sue loses to a somewhat cute upper class girl.

You are missing the point.

A beautiful Peggy Sue DEFEATS a fat or ugly upper class girl.

Female hotness >>> female career

Male career >>> male good looks

This isn't hard. You're just in denial because (a) you are deeply invested in your stupid career, and (b) you are projecting your own desire for a man with a powerful career onto men who actually don't care about it.

Anonymous wrote:Let's see, NYT weddings page:

Cornell weds Cornell:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/01/fashion/weddings/brittany-haas-benjamin-finkleh-married.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fweddings&action=click&contentCollection=weddings®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront
Brittany Haas and Benjamin Stephen Finkle are to be married July 2 at the Inn at Erlowest in Lake George, N.Y.
The bride, who is 30 , works in New York as an associate director of eyewear and e-commerce for Chanel. She is also the founder of Happily Ever Borrowed, a Manhattan company that rents bridal accessories. She graduated from Cornell.

The groom, 29, is a manager of financial planning and analysis in New York for David Yurman, the American designer jewelry company. He graduated cum laude from Cornell.

Career weds career
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/fashion/weddings/for-a-dying-father-of-the-bride-a-wedding-built-in-24-hours.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fweddings&action=click&contentCollection=weddings®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront
Ms. Richards, now 30 and an executive account director for Condé Nast, had met Mr. Killip, now 35 and chief executive of WonderTech, a toy manufacturer..

Let's see, these women are not fat or ugly, and these weddings would not be happening if they were, so yup, thanks for making my point for me.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with freezing eggs but the whole complaining about not being enough successful men is just as dumb as men complaining about there not begin any hot women. Supply and demand people. the good ones get married pretty quickly.....

It is pretty true that good-looking, gainfully employed men who want to get married in their 20s and early 30s, usually are off the market quickly. But roughly half will be back on the market in their 40s. If you can wait, you might get more choices than settling in your late 30s.

Yeah. And half them will have had vasectomies and be paying child support and alimony to wife #1.

Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with freezing eggs but the whole complaining about not being enough successful men is just as dumb as men complaining about there not begin any hot women. Supply and demand people. the good ones get married pretty quickly.....

It is pretty true that good-looking, gainfully employed men who want to get married in their 20s and early 30s, usually are off the market quickly. But roughly half will be back on the market in their 40s. If you can wait, you might get more choices than settling in your late 30s.

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Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

So the solution is for an alpha woman to look for a beta guy? No way. She'd cheat on him in a hot second.

"Less successful professionally" or "less well educated" does not mean beta.

Very often it's the opposite. More alphas at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder than the top.

There are studies that show the "alpha" man or woman is more likely to be cheated on. Something about lack of emotional intelligence makes them bad partners.

Uh huh. Tell me about those studies. But in any event, even accepting this dubious idea as true, the alpha does not care if their partner cheats, because they can easily get a new partner.

Alpha here. We absolutely care if they cheat.

I am an alpha female and I do not care if my husband cheats. First, he wouldn't, largely because he's a beta, but the other poster was right, he can be replaced easily so it's neither here nor there to me.

He has cheated on you. Alpha are so clueless.

I feel bad for these women because they missed the marriage and child rearing boat. It's not their fault that a woman's primary marriage and child bearing years are so short in the grand scheme of life. Women are most fertile and attractive to men when they are very very young and most in our modern society are not mature to realize their short lived power in the marriage market or how to use it to their best advantage.

And average 21 year old American woman is at the peak of her physical beauty and desirability for marriage and baby making. But today's 21 year old's are as immature as teenagers and are always partying, taking selfies in bathrooms and having meaningless sex.

By the time they wise up at around 30, it us usually too late and 80% of eligible men are already in serious relationships or married.

The smart young women who were made aware of the marriage market are decisive and use their youth and beauty to quickly lure an eligible guy with high earning potential EARLY. All of these types of girls and guys are wed at 23-25.

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Anonymous wrote:First I said most

Second top tier is still majority male.... try again.... sorry you aren't hot enough to land an alpha male lol

The bad news for you is that the alpha males who do go to law school or business school don't want some annoying 30-something striver in a pantsuit like you. They'll go get an early 20s trophy wife who isn't obsessed with her stupid, meaningless "career".

so a career is stupid and meaningless if a woman pursues it - she's a pantsuited striver - but a prerequisite for a man? Why does the gender of the person change the value of a career?

LOL you are missing the whole point of this thread.

Hypergamy. Look it up.

Men do not give a shit about your stupid career. They want youth, beauty, fertility. To get that, they have to have a career. Your career will not get you a high-quality man. Youth, beauty, and fertility will do that.

Look at the NYT engagements page and see how is marrying high-quality men. It's not young beautiful Peggy Sues from the trailer parks. It's similarly situated and moneyed women.

You are still missing the point. They are being married for their beauty, not their stupid careers. Or are you going to tell me these women are fat and ugly?

Nope, you are. Beauty is helpful but it is not enough. A beautiful Peggy Sue loses to a beautiful upper class girl. Actually, a beautiful Peggy Sue loses to a somewhat cute upper class girl.

+1 from NP

Observed this myself many times. The most desirable men will almost always go for the cute, early 20's rich girl. She just has to be above-threshold hot, spectacular not required.

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Anonymous wrote:This is very exciting. As a young woman in her late 20s, I could presumably freeze my eggs and have the same amount of reproductive freedom as a male, waiting until my 50s to have a kid if I wanted to- or even later. Wonderful. I'm gonna look into this

My mother is 64 and her cognition has declined. She cant adapt well to new situations and in the ladt few years handles stress poorly. I cannot even IMAGINE dealing with a mouthy teen as a senior citizen.

We live in an affluent community and there are no shortage of smart calculating cute women hitched to high earners pumping out adorable gerber babies.

At only 64? Does she drink or smoke, or does she not exercise? That's very young to have cognitive issues unless you fail to take care of yourself.

NP here. You're deluded. At 65, if a person were to develop Alzheimer's it wouldn't be considered to be early-onset. I've had two clients I can think of off the top of my head, both extremely accomplished professionals, who were dealing with pretty obvious cognition issues in this age range (one late 50s male, one mid 60s female). I have another client, currently mid-60s, who I have worked with a lot in the past and on this current job, it has been noticeable how she has become slightly forgetful. It is definitely nothing dramatic in her case, but I notice it because we work closely and she used to be razor sharp. To the outside world, I'm sure she is the same Larla they've always known, but I see that now she is forgetting details of conversations she never would have misremembered even five years ago. While she is still spectacular at what she does, I suspect things would change quickly if she were dealing with the stresses of a boomerang kid, or something similar.

Yes, for SOME people, 45 might be the new 33, but 65 will never be the new 45.

Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

This is accurate. Distant, busy parents + all the stuff money can buy = self-centered, entitled children.

Anonymous wrote:No marriage is protected from cheating, least of all the one with a beautiful young SAHM wife. And please don't tell me men who want to marry young beautiful girls don't care what it looks like from the outside.

Yeah and if word gets around that your wife is getting pipe from someone else, you're never gonna get that respect back

No marriage is protected from cheating, least of all the one with a beautiful young SAHM wife. And please don't tell me men who want to marry young beautiful girls don't care what it looks like from the outside.

Anonymous wrote:Let's see, NYT weddings page:

Cornell weds Cornell:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/01/fashion/weddings/brittany-haas-benjamin-finkleh-married.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fweddings&action=click&contentCollection=weddings®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront
Brittany Haas and Benjamin Stephen Finkle are to be married July 2 at the Inn at Erlowest in Lake George, N.Y.
The bride, who is 30 , works in New York as an associate director of eyewear and e-commerce for Chanel. She is also the founder of Happily Ever Borrowed, a Manhattan company that rents bridal accessories. She graduated from Cornell.

The groom, 29, is a manager of financial planning and analysis in New York for David Yurman, the American designer jewelry company. He graduated cum laude from Cornell.

Career weds career
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/fashion/weddings/for-a-dying-father-of-the-bride-a-wedding-built-in-24-hours.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fweddings&action=click&contentCollection=weddings®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront
Ms. Richards, now 30 and an executive account director for Condé Nast, had met Mr. Killip, now 35 and chief executive of WonderTech, a toy manufacturer..

brat kids, sham marriage/cheating guaranteed but looks good from the outside and that's all many shallow type As care about

Let's see, NYT weddings page:

Cornell weds Cornell:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/01/fashion/weddings/brittany-haas-benjamin-finkleh-married.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fweddings&action=click&contentCollection=weddings®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront
Brittany Haas and Benjamin Stephen Finkle are to be married July 2 at the Inn at Erlowest in Lake George, N.Y.
The bride, who is 30 , works in New York as an associate director of eyewear and e-commerce for Chanel. She is also the founder of Happily Ever Borrowed, a Manhattan company that rents bridal accessories. She graduated from Cornell.

The groom, 29, is a manager of financial planning and analysis in New York for David Yurman, the American designer jewelry company. He graduated cum laude from Cornell.

Career weds career
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/fashion/weddings/for-a-dying-father-of-the-bride-a-wedding-built-in-24-hours.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fweddings&action=click&contentCollection=weddings®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront
Ms. Richards, now 30 and an executive account director for Condé Nast, had met Mr. Killip, now 35 and chief executive of WonderTech, a toy manufacturer..

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Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

So the solution is for an alpha woman to look for a beta guy? No way. She'd cheat on him in a hot second.

"Less successful professionally" or "less well educated" does not mean beta.

Very often it's the opposite. More alphas at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder than the top.

There are studies that show the "alpha" man or woman is more likely to be cheated on. Something about lack of emotional intelligence makes them bad partners.

Uh huh. Tell me about those studies. But in any event, even accepting this dubious idea as true, the alpha does not care if their partner cheats, because they can easily get a new partner.

Alpha here. We absolutely care if they cheat.

I am an alpha female and I do not care if my husband cheats. First, he wouldn't, largely because he's a beta, but the other poster was right, he can be replaced easily so it's neither here nor there to me.

Alpha man here. I would care and not consider myself an alpha if she did

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Anonymous wrote:Have people actually looked at the offspring of highpowered couples. They are some of the most obnoxious spoiled prep school brats anywhere.

If that isnt enough for you two alphas will eventually tear each other apart and or cheat constantly looking for something better

I say all of this as a child of two alphas.... its not Pretty for anyone

So the solution is for an alpha woman to look for a beta guy? No way. She'd cheat on him in a hot second.

"Less successful professionally" or "less well educated" does not mean beta.

Very often it's the opposite. More alphas at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder than the top.

There are studies that show the "alpha" man or woman is more likely to be cheated on. Something about lack of emotional intelligence makes them bad partners.

Uh huh. Tell me about those studies. But in any event, even accepting this dubious idea as true, the alpha does not care if their partner cheats, because they can easily get a new partner.

Alpha here. We absolutely care if they cheat.

I am an alpha female and I do not care if my husband cheats. First, he wouldn't, largely because he's a beta, but the other poster was right, he can be replaced easily so it's neither here nor there to me.