Anonymous
06/20/2017 09:02
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:I think the reason that there aren't more TJ kids going to the top schools is because those schools don't want kids that just consume information and spit it out on tests. They want leaders and people with an original thought once in a while.
Like the current TJ student, and all the TJ alums, who made Forbes 30 under 30 list?
https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/
Wow. Can we just say that there are immensely talented kids everywhere with an impressive number at TJ?
That's a very fair statement. There are very talented kids throughout FCPS. TJ has a high concentration of them. Succeeding in the research and project heavy curriculum at TJ requires a lot more than rote memorization. That's the easy part that gets you a C. It's how they apply the knowledge that makes TJ students (and strong Langley, Oakton, Woodson, etc) tandouts.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-new-thomas-jefferson-it-includes-remedial-math/2012/05/25/gJQAlZRYqU_story.html?utm_term=.942a5742a7c6
That is a 5 year old article written by a disgruntled former teacher and much has changed at TJ since then.
Anonymous
06/20/2017 08:53
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:I think the reason that there aren't more TJ kids going to the top schools is because those schools don't want kids that just consume information and spit it out on tests. They want leaders and people with an original thought once in a while.
Like the current TJ student, and all the TJ alums, who made Forbes 30 under 30 list?
https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/
Wow. Can we just say that there are immensely talented kids everywhere with an impressive number at TJ?
That's a very fair statement. There are very talented kids throughout FCPS. TJ has a high concentration of them. Succeeding in the research and project heavy curriculum at TJ requires a lot more than rote memorization. That's the easy part that gets you a C. It's how they apply the knowledge that makes TJ students (and strong Langley, Oakton, Woodson, etc) tandouts.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-new-thomas-jefferson-it-includes-remedial-math/2012/05/25/gJQAlZRYqU_story.html?utm_term=.942a5742a7c6
Anonymous
06/20/2017 08:37
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:I think the reason that there aren't more TJ kids going to the top schools is because those schools don't want kids that just consume information and spit it out on tests. They want leaders and people with an original thought once in a while.
Like the current TJ student, and all the TJ alums, who made Forbes 30 under 30 list?
https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/
Wow. Can we just say that there are immensely talented kids everywhere with an impressive number at TJ?
That's a very fair statement. There are very talented kids throughout FCPS. TJ has a high concentration of them. Succeeding in the research and project heavy curriculum at TJ requires a lot more than rote memorization. That's the easy part that gets you a C. It's how they apply the knowledge that makes TJ students (and strong Langley, Oakton, Woodson, etc) tandouts.
Anonymous
06/20/2017 08:12
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:I think the reason that there aren't more TJ kids going to the top schools is because those schools don't want kids that just consume information and spit it out on tests. They want leaders and people with an original thought once in a while.
This makes me seriously question if you were educated beyond middle school levels.
Anonymous
06/20/2017 07:44
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:I think the reason that there aren't more TJ kids going to the top schools is because those schools don't want kids that just consume information and spit it out on tests. They want leaders and people with an original thought once in a while.
Like the current TJ student, and all the TJ alums, who made Forbes 30 under 30 list?
https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/
Wow. Can we just say that there are immensely talented kids everywhere with an impressive number at TJ?
Anonymous
06/20/2017 07:42
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks similar to the data from my public HS in the Midwest. I'm not that impressed.
Curious, what Midwest public school sends 55 kids to the Ivys and more than 1/3 of the class to top 25 colleges?
Not PP, but I guess you have never heard of IMSA-- the Illinois Mathematics and Science Academy, a public school like TJ.
Check it out. It got stellar performance when it comes to college acceptance.
DP-- I have heard of it. It's "elite public," competitive entry magnet STEM school like TJ In the Chicago suburbs. It consistently shows up on the top 10 STEM lists like TJ Except, it's also a boarding school. Of basically it's TJ in Chicago, instead of NOVA. With a boarding school twist, NCSSM. It is about as far as you can get from some random midwesterm high school. I would hope it's college admission stats looked like TJ's.
In other news, Stuyvesant is not a random NYC public high school.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 23:55
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks similar to the data from my public HS in the Midwest. I'm not that impressed.
Curious, what Midwest public school sends 55 kids to the Ivys and more than 1/3 of the class to top 25 colleges?
Not PP, but I guess you have never heard of IMSA-- the Illinois Mathematics and Science Academy, a public school like TJ.
Check it out. It got stellar performance when it comes to college acceptance.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 23:11
Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My D went to TJ and one of those schools and is not majoring in engineering. I'd say at least half of TJ grads will not major in engineering.
Sure. But the half who will major in engineering plus CS is 225 kids. That is not insignificant.
Also, the UVA plus WM kids are largely not the engineering /CS kids. They are more on the pre-med, pre-professional, more generalized track.
You are just making this up to support your point. You have no idea how many TJ grads go into engineering or what the kids at UVA and WM are majoring in.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 23:08
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
https://thetab.com/us/harvard/2016/02/10/pooja-chandrashekar-genie-doctor-2162
Yeah, those damn TJ robots. I wish they'd have an original thought for once.
Yeah, those damn TJ robots. I wish they'd have an original thought for once.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 22:44
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
.Anonymous wrote:I think the reason that there aren't more TJ kids going to the top schools is because those schools don't want kids that just consume information and spit it out on tests. They want leaders and people with an original thought once in a while.
Like the current TJ student, and all the TJ alums, who made Forbes 30 under 30 list?
https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/
Anonymous
06/19/2017 22:40
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:I think the reason that there aren't more TJ kids going to the top schools is because those schools don't want kids that just consume information and spit it out on tests. They want leaders and people with an original thought once in a while.
Very few of TJ classes focus on rote learning--just the opposite. Concepts are taught and constantly applied to new and novel situations. It would be interesting to compare TJ's college list to other high schools to gain perspective. I doubt you'd find many (or even a few) with as impressive a list of senior destinations.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 22:40
Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:My D went to TJ and one of those schools and is not majoring in engineering. I'd say at least half of TJ grads will not major in engineering.
Sure. But the half who will major in engineering plus CS is 225 kids. That is not insignificant.
Also, the UVA plus WM kids are largely not the engineering /CS kids. They are more on the pre-med, pre-professional, more generalized track.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 22:33
Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
I think the reason that there aren't more TJ kids going to the top schools is because those schools don't want kids that just consume information and spit it out on tests. They want leaders and people with an original thought once in a while.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 22:31
Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
My D went to TJ and one of those schools and is not majoring in engineering. I'd say at least half of TJ grads will not major in engineering.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 22:08
Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DP. If one cannot gain admission to UVA after attending TJ, what, then, was the point?
Lot -- most? -- of TJ are grubby families that forego UVA for full merit ride to another college. And the elites offer such good financial aid, anyone under $200K has eyes on them for financial aid.
Sorta. Many TJ kids are excellent students who get a significant amount of merit aid to attend a better engineering school. For all the UVA worship, UVA is only meh in engineering. And I'm not sure why considering merit aid is "grubby". What is wrong with spending less money to go to a better school?
Pull up the UVA engineering rankings. Look at all the schools that are better than them in engineering. Compare the list of schools better than
Many TJ students are not planning to be engineers.
But many are. The US News top undergrad engineering schools, with number of TJ kids:
1. MIT (8)
2. Stanford (5)
3. Berkley. (11)
4. Cal Tech. (1)
GA Tech (1)
6. Illinois (9)
Michigan (16)
8. CMU. (15)
9. Cornell (13)
Purdue (7)
So, TJ is sending 86 kids out of approx 450 to a top 10 engineering school. 128 to top ten plus VT (currently ranked 16th). That's why the list is impressive.
BTW-- the engineering and CS lists are nearly identical.
NP. I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say. Just because its a top 10 engineering school doesn't mean all of the students going there are studying engineering. My kid goes to one of the schools on the list and is not studying engineering.
Ok. Did your kid go to TJ? Because if they didn't, it's not relavent. The poster's point is clear.