Anonymous
Post 12/31/2019 13:16     Subject: Re:Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Do you guys know that 80% of black Americans are middle class and higher socioeconomically?

Don’t take my word for it. Check out the US Census records.

Still we have this lazy narrative of black Americans not valuing education.

We’ve gotta do better as a country. Until we do change the narrative from stereotypes to reality, having black teachers in front of our kids is so important.

While you’re at it, check out the stats for single mothers. Compare the percentage of white ones to blacks. A lot has changed.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2019 13:12     Subject: Re:Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:funny how black students do better in school with a black teacher, but the Asians excel with teachers of any race. Wonder why that is?

Note that the article says FCPS is a powerhouse nationally - doing something right methinks.


Blacks are inferior
Just say what you think don't dance around it with playful quips


That is absolutely NOT what I think. Many factors contribute to the achievement gap. I was just wondering what the Asians are doing right. Why doesn't this problem affect them?


Asian families value education and put an enormous amount of pressure on their kids to get good grades. Black people in the US tend do the opposite. But I'm sure a lot of people on here will blame the principal or whatever. That is why bussing kids to the rich kids schools tends not to work out so well.


I strongly disagree.

You do realize black American women are the most educated group in America, yes?

That doesn’t happen if, as a race, you don’t value education.

This is just one reason this type of diversity in our teacher workforce is important. Kids of all races need to know that there ARE black families that value education. Lots of them. Otherwise, races continue to accept the negative narrative about blacks that isn’t true.

Anonymous
Post 12/31/2019 00:35     Subject: Re:Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:funny how black students do better in school with a black teacher, but the Asians excel with teachers of any race. Wonder why that is?

Note that the article says FCPS is a powerhouse nationally - doing something right methinks.


Blacks are inferior
Just say what you think don't dance around it with playful quips


That is absolutely NOT what I think. Many factors contribute to the achievement gap. I was just wondering what the Asians are doing right. Why doesn't this problem affect them?


Asian families value education and put an enormous amount of pressure on their kids to get good grades. Black people in the US tend do the opposite. But I'm sure a lot of people on here will blame the principal or whatever. That is why bussing kids to the rich kids schools tends not to work out so well.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2019 00:03     Subject: Re:Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids in FCPS. Both my kids have had an AA principal, AA assistant principal, AA teachers and Asian and white teachers. I would say the best and worst teachers were the African American ones. One was truly amazing. Other was often tardy, did speak in Ebonics and really needed to do something with her hair. It looked very messy. The other African Americans were always neat and professional.

DH and I were just discussing how shallow this world was. This has nothing to do with race. People judge you on your looks, how you dress and how you present yourself.

At our school, the most popular teachers are the pretty young white teachers.

This isn’t just at school. I’m sure this is across all hiring. Not about young pretty white but being attractive and how you present yourself.


The best AND worst were both AA?

On its face it sounds fair enough.

BUT-

I can’t help but wonder if they stood out because they were subconsciously scrutinized the most. I’ve seen some pretty unkempt white teachers who truly needed to do something with their hair. But maybe their bed head look went over your head. And there are extremely wonderful and horrible white and Asian teachers as well. Two kids and tons of teachers but perhaps it was the black teachers you paid the most attention to. Wonder why.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2019 20:21     Subject: Re:Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
I have 2 kids in FCPS. Both my kids have had an AA principal, AA assistant principal, AA teachers and Asian and white teachers. I would say the best and worst teachers were the African American ones. One was truly amazing. Other was often tardy, did speak in Ebonics and really needed to do something with her hair. It looked very messy. The other African Americans were always neat and professional.

DH and I were just discussing how shallow this world was. This has nothing to do with race. People judge you on your looks, how you dress and how you present yourself.

At our school, the most popular teachers are the pretty young white teachers.

This isn’t just at school. I’m sure this is across all hiring. Not about young pretty white but being attractive and how you present yourself.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2019 14:50     Subject: Re:Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Asians also outperform white students. The reason is because their culture values and promotes education over the touchy feely "Who is my teacher? Does s/he like me?" The end goal is learning and getting that A.

Black kids are often victims of white teachers and school policies that are racially-biased albeit unintentionally. So they do better under black teachers who are able to see their humanity and treat them fairly instead of assuming the worst about their behavior, intentions, families, futures, etc.

Then there are white kids who (like Western kids of all colors) are more concerned about whether or not the teacher likes them, drama and everything other than learning/getting the A.


No bias here. None.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2019 11:58     Subject: Re:Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:funny how black students do better in school with a black teacher, but the Asians excel with teachers of any race. Wonder why that is?

Note that the article says FCPS is a powerhouse nationally - doing something right methinks.


Blacks are inferior
Just say what you think don't dance around it with playful quips


That is absolutely NOT what I think. Many factors contribute to the achievement gap. I was just wondering what the Asians are doing right. Why doesn't this problem affect them?


Because their history in this country is different and many Asians (Japanese excluded) don't have recent history that tells them not to trust others or that others don't have their best interest at heart. Most black people who are being taught today have grandparents (maybe parents depending on age) who grew up during Jim Crow.


Asians also outperform white students. The reason is because their culture values and promotes education over the touchy feely "Who is my teacher? Does s/he like me?" The end goal is learning and getting that A.

Black kids are often victims of white teachers and school policies that are racially-biased albeit unintentionally. So they do better under black teachers who are able to see their humanity and treat them fairly instead of assuming the worst about their behavior, intentions, families, futures, etc.

Then there are white kids who (like Western kids of all colors) are more concerned about whether or not the teacher likes them, drama and everything other than learning/getting the A.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2018 15:57     Subject: Re:Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:funny how black students do better in school with a black teacher, but the Asians excel with teachers of any race. Wonder why that is?

Note that the article says FCPS is a powerhouse nationally - doing something right methinks.


Blacks are inferior
Just say what you think don't dance around it with playful quips


That is absolutely NOT what I think. Many factors contribute to the achievement gap. I was just wondering what the Asians are doing right. Why doesn't this problem affect them?


Because their history in this country is different and many Asians (Japanese excluded) don't have recent history that tells them not to trust others or that others don't have their best interest at heart. Most black people who are being taught today have grandparents (maybe parents depending on age) who grew up during Jim Crow.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2018 18:24     Subject: Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My child in APS 7th grade has 3 white teachers, 1 Asian, and 3 AA teachers. In team taught classes, 3 of the 4 co-teachers are AA as well. The diversity of teaching staff as well as students is a real plus of this school, IMO.



Do you live near the Route 1 area?


APS=Arlington.

Anonymous wrote:
Not the op but I think the diversity = exposure which helps to combat racism.


+ exposure to a wide variety of people in positions of leadership and authority. Role models. This is important.


Route 1 goes through Arlington. However unlike Fairfax County, the Poors in Arlington are not on Rt 1. They are on Columbia Pike
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2018 08:27     Subject: Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My child in APS 7th grade has 3 white teachers, 1 Asian, and 3 AA teachers. In team taught classes, 3 of the 4 co-teachers are AA as well. The diversity of teaching staff as well as students is a real plus of this school, IMO.



Do you live near the Route 1 area?


APS=Arlington.

Anonymous wrote:
Not the op but I think the diversity = exposure which helps to combat racism.


+ exposure to a wide variety of people in positions of leadership and authority. Role models. This is important.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2018 23:34     Subject: Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My child in APS 7th grade has 3 white teachers, 1 Asian, and 3 AA teachers. In team taught classes, 3 of the 4 co-teachers are AA as well. The diversity of teaching staff as well as students is a real plus of this school, IMO.


Do they teach different perspectives or approach the material differently?


Not the op but I think the diversity = exposure which helps to combat racism.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2018 22:23     Subject: Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Anonymous wrote:My child in APS 7th grade has 3 white teachers, 1 Asian, and 3 AA teachers. In team taught classes, 3 of the 4 co-teachers are AA as well. The diversity of teaching staff as well as students is a real plus of this school, IMO.



Do you live near the Route 1 area?
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2018 18:50     Subject: Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Anonymous wrote:My child in APS 7th grade has 3 white teachers, 1 Asian, and 3 AA teachers. In team taught classes, 3 of the 4 co-teachers are AA as well. The diversity of teaching staff as well as students is a real plus of this school, IMO.


Do they teach different perspectives or approach the material differently?
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2018 22:45     Subject: Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
Anonymous wrote:My child in APS 7th grade has 3 white teachers, 1 Asian, and 3 AA teachers. In team taught classes, 3 of the 4 co-teachers are AA as well. The diversity of teaching staff as well as students is a real plus of this school, IMO.

+1 It’s definitely a plus for all involved.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2018 12:49     Subject: Black teacher applicants face discrimination in FCPS
My child in APS 7th grade has 3 white teachers, 1 Asian, and 3 AA teachers. In team taught classes, 3 of the 4 co-teachers are AA as well. The diversity of teaching staff as well as students is a real plus of this school, IMO.