Nnat 118
Cogat 132
GBRS 14

In.

It also seems like a high NNAT helps get a kid in but a low NNAT is ignored.

This thread is really making me think that the GBRS has more weight than the test scores. Not saying that's a good or bad thing.

NNAT 124
COGAT 139
GBRS 11

In

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 127
CogAT 128
GBRS Didn't ask

Not admitted in 20151

Will you appeal?

I wasn't planning to, but this thread is making me wonder. My kid is happy at the current school so I'm tempted to leave it alone although I'm curious about the rationale. My child isn't in ESOL but we are a bilingual household and that was on the forms, too.

If you think that your child needs advanced studies, then you should. This is not a gt program, but an advanced one. You can always get out. Per ESOL, if when you enrolled your child in school you mentioned that he/she was in a bilingual or foreign language household, then it will permanently be in his/her record forever. Based on that the child will be assessed for ESOL services, and does not have to receive them. I don't know how the foreign language factors in though.

Thanks for the info. I'm wondering if I need to bother with a WISC to appeal? I guess DH and I have a lot to discuss later tonight; this is very different from school where he grew up!

They say that you need to appeal with additional information. I don't have experience with the appeal, but from what I've read around the WISC is the way to go. It seems you need to do some research on who administers it.

You can also ask for a retest for either the NNAT or the CogAT. That is if you want to go through the process again. I've read around that most appeals get approved.

The NNAT and CogAT are group tests and there will be no tests administered between now and the appeals deadline. You don't have to have the WISC, but that's the test they consider most reliable. If you do the WISC and the scores aren't "high enough," appeal with additional work samples or recommendation letters. As long as you submit something new, they'll consider the appeal. What are the CogAT subscores? That might explain why your DC wasn't found eligible.

PP here. I'm looking at the Profile Narrative the county sent-- under "Standard Age Score" it has Verbal as 118, Quantitative as 126, and Nonverbal as 129. I looked at the NNAT report and there were no subscores, just a percentile rank (95th).

While there are no in pool scores, those scores are solid. My neighbor's child got in first round with lower scores and no WISC last year. I'm guessing the GBRS may be low, given those subscores. I'd appeal regardless of the GBRS. Also get a copy of the file to see if there were any mistakes in it. There is no downside to appealing. GL.

NNAT: 140
COGAT: 127 (composite)
GBRS: No idea

NNAT: 121
COGAT: 139 (composite)
GBRS: No idea

Received selection letters today (22043): Twins are in!

Nnat- I don't remember the composite score but he was in 90 percentile
Cogat - 126
Gbrs-8
Not in

Well we already knew that with low GBRS score, our DS would not get in this year. So as soon as I came to know about the GBRS score I scheduled wisc test.
If in case my DS doesn't get good enough WISC score to be accepted. Then does he need to give the COGAT again?
DS is intelligent but not super intelligent, getting mostly 3 and 4s and never 2 on any subject. I have never sent him to maths coaching classes and looks like a mistake. He scored 100% in all his maths test but couldn't do advance maths a lot. I feel he is going to be losing interest in studies because he did not find the maths class challenging. Getting into AAP looks so tough for a person who is a dreamer but yet an intelligent person.

Does DS needs to know advance maths to get a good WISC score?

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 127
CogAT 128
GBRS Didn't ask

Not admitted in 20151

Will you appeal?

I wasn't planning to, but this thread is making me wonder. My kid is happy at the current school so I'm tempted to leave it alone although I'm curious about the rationale. My child isn't in ESOL but we are a bilingual household and that was on the forms, too.

If you think that your child needs advanced studies, then you should. This is not a gt program, but an advanced one. You can always get out. Per ESOL, if when you enrolled your child in school you mentioned that he/she was in a bilingual or foreign language household, then it will permanently be in his/her record forever. Based on that the child will be assessed for ESOL services, and does not have to receive them. I don't know how the foreign language factors in though.

Thanks for the info. I'm wondering if I need to bother with a WISC to appeal? I guess DH and I have a lot to discuss later tonight; this is very different from school where he grew up!

They say that you need to appeal with additional information. I don't have experience with the appeal, but from what I've read around the WISC is the way to go. It seems you need to do some research on who administers it.

You can also ask for a retest for either the NNAT or the CogAT. That is if you want to go through the process again. I've read around that most appeals get approved.

The NNAT and CogAT are group tests and there will be no tests administered between now and the appeals deadline. You don't have to have the WISC, but that's the test they consider most reliable. If you do the WISC and the scores aren't "high enough," appeal with additional work samples or recommendation letters. As long as you submit something new, they'll consider the appeal. What are the CogAT subscores? That might explain why your DC wasn't found eligible.

The CogAT sub scores are not part of the application, only the composite.

I believe you might have misspoke because the exact opposite is true. If you request the application packet what shows is the subscores only and not the composite, although it was composite that was used for the in pool score.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT-98
Ffx Cogat-120
GBRS-no idea
Admitted

No offense but these are low scores.

Maybe the 98 refers to percentile....

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Ffx Cogat-120
GBRS-no idea
Admitted

No offense but these are low scores.

My son got higher than these scores and not in.

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Ffx Cogat-120
GBRS-no idea
Admitted

No offense but these are low scores.

My son got higher than these scores and not in.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 127
CogAT 128
GBRS Didn't ask

Not admitted in 20151

Will you appeal?

I wasn't planning to, but this thread is making me wonder. My kid is happy at the current school so I'm tempted to leave it alone although I'm curious about the rationale. My child isn't in ESOL but we are a bilingual household and that was on the forms, too.

If you think that your child needs advanced studies, then you should. This is not a gt program, but an advanced one. You can always get out. Per ESOL, if when you enrolled your child in school you mentioned that he/she was in a bilingual or foreign language household, then it will permanently be in his/her record forever. Based on that the child will be assessed for ESOL services, and does not have to receive them. I don't know how the foreign language factors in though.

Thanks for the info. I'm wondering if I need to bother with a WISC to appeal? I guess DH and I have a lot to discuss later tonight; this is very different from school where he grew up!

They say that you need to appeal with additional information. I don't have experience with the appeal, but from what I've read around the WISC is the way to go. It seems you need to do some research on who administers it.

You can also ask for a retest for either the NNAT or the CogAT. That is if you want to go through the process again. I've read around that most appeals get approved.

The NNAT and CogAT are group tests and there will be no tests administered between now and the appeals deadline. You don't have to have the WISC, but that's the test they consider most reliable. If you do the WISC and the scores aren't "high enough," appeal with additional work samples or recommendation letters. As long as you submit something new, they'll consider the appeal. What are the CogAT subscores? That might explain why your DC wasn't found eligible.

PP here. I'm looking at the Profile Narrative the county sent-- under "Standard Age Score" it has Verbal as 118, Quantitative as 126, and Nonverbal as 129. I looked at the NNAT report and there were no subscores, just a percentile rank (95th).

I think the GBRS must have been pretty average and that plus all the test scores being under the cutoffs didn't give the committee any factors that were pro-admission.

PP again. I suspect you're right. I forgot to mention, my kid has consistently gotten 4s in math, science, writing, and most other subjects. Occasionally there will be a 3 in music or art but it's pretty rare. I may ask the AART for the GBRS because I'm confused about all of this, and because my friend's kid up the street got in with lower scores :/.

The kid up the street may have had a better overall package. He/she could have had higher GBRS, great work samples, recommendation letters. Maybe even submitted a WISC. You can't really compare kids as if they're apples to apples.

A kid in the 95th % should be in. I'm sure they can handle it. I'd definitely appeal if you want him in. If you have pictures of his work, or other work samples it would help. You can put 4 per page. You can add additional tests etc. it seems that the grades don't mean as much. But like previous posters said, speak to the AART teacher and get the GBRS score. I've heard that scores above 12 are good.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 127
CogAT 128
GBRS Didn't ask

Not admitted in 20151

Will you appeal?

I wasn't planning to, but this thread is making me wonder. My kid is happy at the current school so I'm tempted to leave it alone although I'm curious about the rationale. My child isn't in ESOL but we are a bilingual household and that was on the forms, too.

If you think that your child needs advanced studies, then you should. This is not a gt program, but an advanced one. You can always get out. Per ESOL, if when you enrolled your child in school you mentioned that he/she was in a bilingual or foreign language household, then it will permanently be in his/her record forever. Based on that the child will be assessed for ESOL services, and does not have to receive them. I don't know how the foreign language factors in though.

Thanks for the info. I'm wondering if I need to bother with a WISC to appeal? I guess DH and I have a lot to discuss later tonight; this is very different from school where he grew up!

They say that you need to appeal with additional information. I don't have experience with the appeal, but from what I've read around the WISC is the way to go. It seems you need to do some research on who administers it.

You can also ask for a retest for either the NNAT or the CogAT. That is if you want to go through the process again. I've read around that most appeals get approved.

The NNAT and CogAT are group tests and there will be no tests administered between now and the appeals deadline. You don't have to have the WISC, but that's the test they consider most reliable. If you do the WISC and the scores aren't "high enough," appeal with additional work samples or recommendation letters. As long as you submit something new, they'll consider the appeal. What are the CogAT subscores? That might explain why your DC wasn't found eligible.

PP here. I'm looking at the Profile Narrative the county sent-- under "Standard Age Score" it has Verbal as 118, Quantitative as 126, and Nonverbal as 129. I looked at the NNAT report and there were no subscores, just a percentile rank (95th).

I think the GBRS must have been pretty average and that plus all the test scores being under the cutoffs didn't give the committee any factors that were pro-admission.

PP again. I suspect you're right. I forgot to mention, my kid has consistently gotten 4s in math, science, writing, and most other subjects. Occasionally there will be a 3 in music or art but it's pretty rare. I may ask the AART for the GBRS because I'm confused about all of this, and because my friend's kid up the street got in with lower scores :/.

The kid up the street may have had a better overall package. He/she could have had higher GBRS, great work samples, recommendation letters. Maybe even submitted a WISC. You can't really compare kids as if they're apples to apples.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 127
CogAT 128
GBRS Didn't ask

Not admitted in 20151

Will you appeal?

I wasn't planning to, but this thread is making me wonder. My kid is happy at the current school so I'm tempted to leave it alone although I'm curious about the rationale. My child isn't in ESOL but we are a bilingual household and that was on the forms, too.

If you think that your child needs advanced studies, then you should. This is not a gt program, but an advanced one. You can always get out. Per ESOL, if when you enrolled your child in school you mentioned that he/she was in a bilingual or foreign language household, then it will permanently be in his/her record forever. Based on that the child will be assessed for ESOL services, and does not have to receive them. I don't know how the foreign language factors in though.

Thanks for the info. I'm wondering if I need to bother with a WISC to appeal? I guess DH and I have a lot to discuss later tonight; this is very different from school where he grew up!

If I were you, I would understand/know the GBRS before I appealed or even thought about appealing.

Anonymous wrote:Why does the zip code matter? Are the standards different across zip codes?

People post the zip code to let others know what area got results. In the beginning people want to know if others in the same area got their letters so they know to look out for theirs. It has nothing to do with getting into AAP or not.