Anonymous
Post 04/07/2017 22:42     Subject: Re:LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

Anonymous wrote:I attended the last meeting at Yorktown. Still smh at half the stuff I heard. One guy literally yelled out, "I don't care about any of this! The only thing that matters is that my daughter doesn't have to go to Washington-Lee with 4,000 kids!!" Another lady says, with a straight face, "You cannot open up Key to the entire county! We go to Science Focus, and we NEED that school to relieve our overcrowding! Have you seen what's happening at Taylor and SFS? We have to have 3 neighborhood schools!!"

"We have to have 3 neighborhood schools." Basically, I don't care about immersion. I don't really care about any of the children at Key. They only exist to relieve overcrowding at my kid's school. And the W-L guy? Basically told us if thousands of other kids in the county have to get stuffed into trailers and closets for his daughter to experience a pristine high school experience ...well, it is what it is.

Is anyone paying attention to the demographic trends? We live in Arlington. Outside of Discovery and maybe a couple others, every school is on track to be overcrowded. We all chose to live in a geographically small, fairly urban suburb that's continuing to grow. There won't be anywhere to ship all these "other" kids so "your" school is untouched by these facts.


Well, but this lady indirectly hit the nail on the head; the current policy serves only to self segregate non-English speaking hispanics out of the more "precious schools" close by, so that they have less freshly immigrated Hispanic kids. She said it, and that's exactly what it is right now.
The county has got to mix up the demographics at each school, and the proposal is a step in the right direction.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2017 22:32     Subject: LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

Anonymous wrote:The "automatic lottery entry" thing concerns me. Part of the reason the countywide programs succeed is that they have devoted parents who really care about the programs. If you automatically enter families with no interest, some of them will get in and attend and then not engage or get as much out of it. They've already eased up the requirements by not requiring a tour or signatures on a form. (which makes it easier on busy parents.)

I'm on the PTA board at ATS and we're opposed to the idea for this reason. Part of what makes our school great is that we have engaged parents, but out of hundreds of families, you still see the same 20-30 people running everything because others don't volunteer. We worry that will get worse with automatic lottery entry; that you'll have even fewer parents who care enough to do more than the bare minimum.


I think you foresee this correctly, if lottery entry is automatic, and for every lottery school, the engaged parents self selection will vanish.
Also it creates a huge burden - because thousands of families will be ever confused, and simply not respond, not care, not decline spots, etc.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2017 22:21     Subject: LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

Anonymous wrote:WL sucks ass


Enjoying your Spring Break already, Yorktown teen? Try not to make any racist comments on your time off.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2017 22:20     Subject: Re:LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

Anonymous wrote:I attended the last meeting at Yorktown. Still smh at half the stuff I heard. One guy literally yelled out, "I don't care about any of this! The only thing that matters is that my daughter doesn't have to go to Washington-Lee with 4,000 kids!!" Another lady says, with a straight face, "You cannot open up Key to the entire county! We go to Science Focus, and we NEED that school to relieve our overcrowding! Have you seen what's happening at Taylor and SFS? We have to have 3 neighborhood schools!!"

"We have to have 3 neighborhood schools." Basically, I don't care about immersion. I don't really care about any of the children at Key. They only exist to relieve overcrowding at my kid's school. And the W-L guy? Basically told us if thousands of other kids in the county have to get stuffed into trailers and closets for his daughter to experience a pristine high school experience ...well, it is what it is.

Is anyone paying attention to the demographic trends? We live in Arlington. Outside of Discovery and maybe a couple others, every school is on track to be overcrowded. We all chose to live in a geographically small, fairly urban suburb that's continuing to grow. There won't be anywhere to ship all these "other" kids so "your" school is untouched by these facts.


Uh...you actually think a 4000 HS is a good idea?

And she probably didn't explain it well, but the team schools were formed to alleviate overcrowding 25+ years ago. If you remove one of the schools (Key) from the team, then the rest of the team needs to absorb those extra kids. Actually, not the rest of the team, just ASFS. And I'm sure the families who bought into the Key zone to go to Key will be unhappy if that changes. It affects all of the families in the community. IMO you are incorrectly reading between the words of what she said.

Sounds like we need more schools, not just more seats. Let's focus on that.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2017 21:51     Subject: LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

WL sucks ass
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2017 21:48     Subject: Re:LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

Anonymous wrote:I attended the last meeting at Yorktown. Still smh at half the stuff I heard. One guy literally yelled out, "I don't care about any of this! The only thing that matters is that my daughter doesn't have to go to Washington-Lee with 4,000 kids!!" Another lady says, with a straight face, "You cannot open up Key to the entire county! We go to Science Focus, and we NEED that school to relieve our overcrowding! Have you seen what's happening at Taylor and SFS? We have to have 3 neighborhood schools!!"

"We have to have 3 neighborhood schools." Basically, I don't care about immersion. I don't really care about any of the children at Key. They only exist to relieve overcrowding at my kid's school. And the W-L guy? Basically told us if thousands of other kids in the county have to get stuffed into trailers and closets for his daughter to experience a pristine high school experience ...well, it is what it is.

Is anyone paying attention to the demographic trends? We live in Arlington. Outside of Discovery and maybe a couple others, every school is on track to be overcrowded. We all chose to live in a geographically small, fairly urban suburb that's continuing to grow. There won't be anywhere to ship all these "other" kids so "your" school is untouched by these facts.


Suck it up. This is what you paid for.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2017 21:39     Subject: Re:LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

I attended the last meeting at Yorktown. Still smh at half the stuff I heard. One guy literally yelled out, "I don't care about any of this! The only thing that matters is that my daughter doesn't have to go to Washington-Lee with 4,000 kids!!" Another lady says, with a straight face, "You cannot open up Key to the entire county! We go to Science Focus, and we NEED that school to relieve our overcrowding! Have you seen what's happening at Taylor and SFS? We have to have 3 neighborhood schools!!"

"We have to have 3 neighborhood schools." Basically, I don't care about immersion. I don't really care about any of the children at Key. They only exist to relieve overcrowding at my kid's school. And the W-L guy? Basically told us if thousands of other kids in the county have to get stuffed into trailers and closets for his daughter to experience a pristine high school experience ...well, it is what it is.

Is anyone paying attention to the demographic trends? We live in Arlington. Outside of Discovery and maybe a couple others, every school is on track to be overcrowded. We all chose to live in a geographically small, fairly urban suburb that's continuing to grow. There won't be anywhere to ship all these "other" kids so "your" school is untouched by these facts.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2017 20:00     Subject: Re:LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

Anonymous wrote:
False equivalency dude. Their kids went to a traditional high school at normal hours, sitting in a classroom, with fields to practice on.
Van Doren and Murphy are batting around great ideas like shift schedules, online learning, and internships.
Our retired citizens won't be giving up the community center that was once a school either. They have water color class on Wednesday over there.
Oh, and they won't be paying taxes. "Arlington is so expensive now! I can't pay taxes and age in place! Just get rid of those new fangled iPads."

Nevermind that the whole point of 1:1 is to get these kids primed for online learning,
so the arlington county democratic committee doesn't have to deal with building more schools. They don't have the will and the county doesn't have the space or the money. This student boom is to be weathered. It will pass.



This is a horrible idea....absolutely horrible. It assumes that young children have the stamina and motivation to sit in front of a screen and learn on their own, which they simply do not have. Developmentally, it simply isn't there! Ask any teacher and they will tell you that. Online learning can be done when a student is older--perhaps in college--but not younger. There needs to be someone there to answer questions and keep the student on task.



Too bad. Grandma and gramps don't want to pay for it. Move of you don't like it.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2017 16:36     Subject: Re:LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)


False equivalency dude. Their kids went to a traditional high school at normal hours, sitting in a classroom, with fields to practice on.
Van Doren and Murphy are batting around great ideas like shift schedules, online learning, and internships.
Our retired citizens won't be giving up the community center that was once a school either. They have water color class on Wednesday over there.
Oh, and they won't be paying taxes. "Arlington is so expensive now! I can't pay taxes and age in place! Just get rid of those new fangled iPads."

Nevermind that the whole point of 1:1 is to get these kids primed for online learning,
so the arlington county democratic committee doesn't have to deal with building more schools. They don't have the will and the county doesn't have the space or the money. This student boom is to be weathered. It will pass.



This is a horrible idea....absolutely horrible. It assumes that young children have the stamina and motivation to sit in front of a screen and learn on their own, which they simply do not have. Developmentally, it simply isn't there! Ask any teacher and they will tell you that. Online learning can be done when a student is older--perhaps in college--but not younger. There needs to be someone there to answer questions and keep the student on task.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2017 16:15     Subject: Re:LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Omg. That is literally exactly what happens. " the system was good enough for my kids"


Do you disagree with that? If you went to school or sent your kids to school somewhere where kids bought their own devices, language instruction didn't start until middle school, or classes had 30 students or more, you might think that 1 cent would be better off in your pocket than in APS' coffers.


False equivalency dude. Their kids went to a traditional high school at normal hours, sitting in a classroom, with fields to practice on.
Van Doren and Murphy are batting around great ideas like shift schedules, online learning, and internships.
Our retired citizens won't be giving up the community center that was once a school either. They have water color class on Wednesday over there.
Oh, and they won't be paying taxes. "Arlington is so expensive now! I can't pay taxes and age in place! Just get rid of those new fangled iPads."

Nevermind that the whole point of 1:1 is to get these kids primed for online learning, so the arlington county democratic committee doesn't have to deal with building more schools. They don't have the will and the county doesn't have the space or the money. This student boom is to be weathered. It will pass.


Anonymous
Post 04/06/2017 15:38     Subject: Re:LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Omg. That is literally exactly what happens. " the system was good enough for my kids"


Do you disagree with that? If you went to school or sent your kids to school somewhere where kids bought their own devices, language instruction didn't start until middle school, or classes had 30 students or more, you might think that 1 cent would be better off in your pocket than in APS' coffers.


I think like that and I have kids in APS.


You're against language instruction? Jeez..


You have to read the whole sentence (no matter what language it's in)


I read the sentence. You don't think kids should learn another language until they're teens?


Should?

I think it is possible for a good education not to provide language instruction to 10 year olds, yes.

How early do you think kids need to receive language instruction before you're willing to say their education is suffering?
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2017 15:32     Subject: Re:LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Omg. That is literally exactly what happens. " the system was good enough for my kids"


Do you disagree with that? If you went to school or sent your kids to school somewhere where kids bought their own devices, language instruction didn't start until middle school, or classes had 30 students or more, you might think that 1 cent would be better off in your pocket than in APS' coffers.


I think like that and I have kids in APS.


You're against language instruction? Jeez..


You have to read the whole sentence (no matter what language it's in)


I read the sentence. You don't think kids should learn another language until they're teens?
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2017 15:23     Subject: Re:LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Omg. That is literally exactly what happens. " the system was good enough for my kids"


Do you disagree with that? If you went to school or sent your kids to school somewhere where kids bought their own devices, language instruction didn't start until middle school, or classes had 30 students or more, you might think that 1 cent would be better off in your pocket than in APS' coffers.


I think like that and I have kids in APS.


You're against language instruction? Jeez..


You have to read the whole sentence (no matter what language it's in)
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2017 13:47     Subject: Re:LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

I went to a very mediocre DC public school in the 80's and we had language instruction in elementary school. I didn't even realize it's not normally taught in elementary.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2017 13:44     Subject: Re:LAST APS meeting on new high school and countywide rezoning (4/4, 7 pm Yorktown)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Omg. That is literally exactly what happens. " the system was good enough for my kids"


Do you disagree with that? If you went to school or sent your kids to school somewhere where kids bought their own devices, language instruction didn't start until middle school, or classes had 30 students or more, you might think that 1 cent would be better off in your pocket than in APS' coffers.


I think like that and I have kids in APS.


You're against language instruction? Jeez..