Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 19:09     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"No choice" but to enroll them? Bullshit. That's the superintendent's twisted interpretation of the SC decision, which is motivated by the want for more $$$$$$ for MCPS. Every pupil he adds is another $17,000 each, per year for his budget and pet projects.


Sure because it typically works out well for school districts to reject well-settled Supreme Court law. Just ask the Mayor of Little Rock how that one went.

Haven't you heard? Montgomery County is officially "uncooperative" with ICE. But I suspect that will soon change. People will demand better for their children in public schools.


The can trample on federal law to become sanctuary enclaves, so clearly they're not tethered to the law. Reject the illegals and get sued, let it play out in court. Every taxpayer in the district will get behind rejecting these leeches from enrolling, especially if they ever announced how many millions are wasted on these foreigners. I'd bet it's easily $1X,000,000 per year in MCPS.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 18:13     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?

Thing is, NO one at MCPS knows how old these two criminal rapists really are.



Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 17:55     Subject: Re:Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
Anonymous wrote:If these men are undocumented, no address, no ID, dont even speak english... How do we know how old they are at all?

Arent there activist organizations teaching people how to come here illegally and get benefits? Maybe 25 year old men have a good thing here... Warm school, feeds you three hots and girls too eh??

And the a fair question is not why such men would not in the same school but the same class room as a 14 year old?? Actually why would a 14 year old girl who speaks no English be in the same class? If a teacher has to focus all their attention on one student, how can the others learn??

These are legitimate questions, not racist ones. But to be pilloried a racist for asking is a behavior we are getting fed up with.


They AREN'T in the same class room as an English-speaking 14 year old, and they would be in a class room with a non-English speaking 14 year old for the same reason as any other 17 year old would be in the same class as a 14 year old. As pointed out in the FAQ posted by MCPS and linked on one of these 400 threats about RHS, 17 and 18 year olds are in classes with 14 year olds all the time, either for electives or remediation.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 17:50     Subject: Re:Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
If these men are undocumented, no address, no ID, dont even speak english... How do we know how old they are at all?

Arent there activist organizations teaching people how to come here illegally and get benefits? Maybe 25 year old men have a good thing here... Warm school, feeds you three hots and girls too eh??

And the a fair question is not why such men would not in the same school but the same class room as a 14 year old?? Actually why would a 14 year old girl who speaks no English be in the same class? If a teacher has to focus all their attention on one student, how can the others learn??

These are legitimate questions, not racist ones. But to be pilloried a racist for asking is a behavior we are getting fed up with.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 17:31     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:fire him

I agree. His attempt to cover this up, alone, is enough to get rid of him. He can't be trusted.


cover it up? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
He was forced to address this after 5 days after the fact after the story was leaked to the press. Hogan called him for how he handled this and for being uncooperative with him or the head of the md department of education. The White House was commenting about this before Smith. Community members and some parents complained that the first they heard about this was from the press. The press commented that they reached out to him and he wouldn't return their calls so a reporter had to catch him coming out of his office to get him to comment. Why not get the letter he sent out today (a week after the crime!) the same day? Why not have a press conference the same day (suspects were arrested at 1pm). What the hell was he waiting for? He was NEVER going to do anything. He was going to hide all of this and quietly swept it under the rug. Cover it all up like nothing happened. This is how he operates -- what else has been hidden from us? Pay attention. I applaud the press for forcing him to do what's right.


To amplify this, the first statement that he made about this was to the reporter Marina Marraco, who waited at his car for 3 hours to get a statement. Then, when he held a press conference and she asked a question, he sneered at her and started with, "as I told you when you cornered me at my car....". So he wasn't planning to say ANYTHING and resented having to say something. I think at a minimum parents deserve answers. And only addressing hate-filled emails lumps together legitimate concerns about security, gangs, etc. Why can't he just say something like, "I know parents have some concerns and we are reviewing our procedures to be sure everything is working as intended"? It's the total refusal to even entertain the notion that they could have erred. And we all err, so...
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 15:58     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
I'm fairly amazed by folks who think Sean Spicer mentioning this means anything at all, other than this administration will do anything to demonize immigrants (documented and undocumented).

Remember that this is the same presidential administration considering putting out a weekly list of crimes committed by Latinos, much as the Nazis did with Jews.

So, yeah, OF COURSE they jumped all over this story. It means nothing except that it was a good opportunity for them to take the easy road, ignore the law, and whip up hatred against a minority group.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 15:28     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
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Anonymous wrote:According to Smith, the violent rape at school is merely "unacceptable," while the racist, xenophobic emails and calls "will not be tolerated."


+1
Add me to the list of those who thought the email response was crap. He sounds like he's defending these rapists.

+1,000,000
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 15:21     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
Anonymous wrote:According to Smith, the violent rape at school is merely "unacceptable," while the racist, xenophobic emails and calls "will not be tolerated."


+1
Add me to the list of those who thought the email response was crap. He sounds like he's defending these rapists.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 15:11     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:fire him

I agree. His attempt to cover this up, alone, is enough to get rid of him. He can't be trusted.


cover it up? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
He was forced to address this after 5 days after the fact after the story was leaked to the press. Hogan called him for how he handled this and for being uncooperative with him or the head of the md department of education. The White House was commenting about this before Smith. Community members and some parents complained that the first they heard about this was from the press. The press commented that they reached out to him and he wouldn't return their calls so a reporter had to catch him coming out of his office to get him to comment. Why not get the letter he sent out today (a week after the crime!) the same day? Why not have a press conference the same day (suspects were arrested at 1pm). What the hell was he waiting for? He was NEVER going to do anything. He was going to hide all of this and quietly swept it under the rug. Cover it all up like nothing happened. This is how he operates -- what else has been hidden from us? Pay attention. I applaud the press for forcing him to do what's right.


As of 2010 school year there were about 600 rapes reported at schools in the U.S. School administrators do not call a press conference the moment this occurs, presumably to protect the privacy of the victim. You may not know the girl's name, but I'm sure everyone in school does. And now Sean Spicer and Rush Limbaugh are yelling about her and everyone is speculating about her citizenship. There are many reasons a school would not want to call an immediate press conference every time a student is accused of committing a violent crime.

https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2014/2014042.pdf
jsteele
Post 03/23/2017 15:09     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
Anonymous wrote:
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Exactly. Wondering (Jeff?) if it's only one or two people defending the Jack Smith mess. We'll never know for sure.


Wondering whether it's only one or two people taking the "everybody hates Jack Smith" line. We'll never know for sure.


There are prolific posters on both sides of the debate and there are several posters on each side. Ironically, both of you are among the prolific posters (though on opposite sides).
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 15:07     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
Anonymous wrote:NP here. What I found so offensive about Smith's presser is that he lumped everyone with measured and legitimate concerns about this incident in with the lunatic fringe that apparently sent him emails. He even noted that the vast majority of emails were from concerned parents and only a few were from weirdos and then proceeded to only address the racist views. He said he wasn't going to send home the 25k students who speak other languages at home. Fantastic. We speak 3 languages at home and he got a letter from me, and I found him to be completely tone deaf. This isn't a bunch of racists ganging up. It's parents wondering why their children were attending schools with criminals 4 years senior to them. I'm now seriously considering a move to private school. We can swing the expense. I've always wanted to support public schools from a sort of liberal, support-your-community perspective. But the community school has to support US and I don't see that happening.


This sounds a lot to me like, "I supported the public school system because it made me feel good about myself, but the public school system wasn't grateful for my support, so now I'm thinking about taking my ball and going home."
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 15:04     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
Anonymous wrote:
Exactly. Wondering (Jeff?) if it's only one or two people defending the Jack Smith mess. We'll never know for sure.


Wondering whether it's only one or two people taking the "everybody hates Jack Smith" line. We'll never know for sure.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 14:05     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:fire him

I agree. His attempt to cover this up, alone, is enough to get rid of him. He can't be trusted.


cover it up? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
He was forced to address this after 5 days after the fact after the story was leaked to the press. Hogan called him for how he handled this and for being uncooperative with him or the head of the md department of education. The White House was commenting about this before Smith. Community members and some parents complained that the first they heard about this was from the press. The press commented that they reached out to him and he wouldn't return their calls so a reporter had to catch him coming out of his office to get him to comment. Why not get the letter he sent out today (a week after the crime!) the same day? Why not have a press conference the same day (suspects were arrested at 1pm). What the hell was he waiting for? He was NEVER going to do anything. He was going to hide all of this and quietly swept it under the rug. Cover it all up like nothing happened. This is how he operates -- what else has been hidden from us? Pay attention. I applaud the press for forcing him to do what's right.

Exactly. Wondering (Jeff?) if it's only one or two people defending the Jack Smith mess. We'll never know for sure.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 14:02     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Superintendent Smith has my support, as an MCPS parent. His approach, from where I sit, has been measured in exactly the right way. He has stressed the gravity of the events at RHS, but resisted the temptation to throw anyone under the bus, particularly a disenfranchised minority group.

I appreciate him not taking the easy path. It's hard to stand in front of a group of angry, frightened, folks and say "We are doing our best, and working within the law," but that's exactly what I want him to do.

Thanks, Jack, but you're toast. Cheers!


I really wonder how many of the anti-JS posts (Jeff?) are from one or two people. It's nothing at all like how the MCPS community feels, both about the incident or about him personally.

FYI, Most of the 700 people who showed up on Tuesday evening were disgusted with Jack Smith, so what are you talking about? Didn't you listen to them on the news? He needs to allow these folks to go to evening classes.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2017 13:59     Subject: Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:fire him

I agree. His attempt to cover this up, alone, is enough to get rid of him. He can't be trusted.


cover it up? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
He was forced to address this after 5 days after the fact after the story was leaked to the press. Hogan called him for how he handled this and for being uncooperative with him or the head of the md department of education. The White House was commenting about this before Smith. Community members and some parents complained that the first they heard about this was from the press. The press commented that they reached out to him and he wouldn't return their calls so a reporter had to catch him coming out of his office to get him to comment. Why not get the letter he sent out today (a week after the crime!) the same day? Why not have a press conference the same day (suspects were arrested at 1pm). What the hell was he waiting for? He was NEVER going to do anything. He was going to hide all of this and quietly swept it under the rug. Cover it all up like nothing happened. This is how he operates -- what else has been hidden from us? Pay attention. I applaud the press for forcing him to do what's right.