Anonymous wrote:Well consider yourself lucky RCF that you never had to deal with overcrowding through elemenatry! How do you jusitify making other disadvataged kids who have to had to deal with overcrowding for years to even more of it? We have a lot of disadvantaged kids, almost as many as you, who did not have the luxury of small classes. It's not our faults we are overcrowded either.
The schools should start off as true equals in every way but since that won' t or can't happen, let's start with making the starting capacities equal!!!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those who are saying the RCF community doesn't understand that this will be a drain in PTA resources - with the immersion folks our school is at around 25% FARMS. The new MS would have a lower FARMS rate than RCF (or course, our neighborhood-only FARMS rate is way higher). So I'm pretty confident that just as our PTA currently finds enough volunteers and donations, the new MS PTA will be able to do the same with a lower FARMS rate than we currently have.
Someone just dropped the mic.
The unofficial FARMS rate at CCES has gone up significantly in the past two years (approx 3%). According to an insider, the current numbers are not correct and the school has has outpaced MCPS's projected growth by 3% in ONE YEAR ALONE. Add up that growth over 5-10 years. Neither the FARMS nor the increased projected enrollment at CCES alone shows no signs of slowing down. The FARMS rate at the new Middle will be much higher than what you state and MORE IMPORTANTLY the ENROLLMENT will be much much higher. Everyone knows the capacity numbers are bogus and under reported by MCPS and do not take into account the development happening in the next year or two. My main concern is capacity and overcrowding.
CCES houses a lot of diversity, just slightly less than RCF, even though everyone accuses the school of being rich because of it's name. It is a few affluent kids mixed in with a fair amount of disadvantaged kids. NCC actually has less diversity than CCES, very little in fact, it is more equivalent to Somerset or BE. I can attest that RHPS and CCES are bursting at the seams.
RFC, being a title one school has caps on classroom size, keeping them them small, sweet and condusive to learning. RCF has fortunately never had to deal with classrooms of 27 kids and multiple lunches for one grade because there are too many kids. Honestly, I think part of the problem is that from lack of experience, RCF has no idea how horrible being in an overcrowded school is. No. Idea. They have never had to deal with it. Meanwhile, CCES and RHPS familes have been crammed into classrooms like sardines for years and want some relief. They understand intimately exactly what overcrowded and overcapacity means because they live it and are tired of it. Hence the anger at the capacity numbers.
RCF is not a title 1 school. It has 26% FARMs, nowhere near the 40% minimum needed to qualify for title 1 funds.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those who are saying the RCF community doesn't understand that this will be a drain in PTA resources - with the immersion folks our school is at around 25% FARMS. The new MS would have a lower FARMS rate than RCF (or course, our neighborhood-only FARMS rate is way higher). So I'm pretty confident that just as our PTA currently finds enough volunteers and donations, the new MS PTA will be able to do the same with a lower FARMS rate than we currently have.
Someone just dropped the mic.
The unofficial FARMS rate at CCES has gone up significantly in the past two years (approx 3%). According to an insider, the current numbers are not correct and the school has has outpaced MCPS's projected growth by 3% in ONE YEAR ALONE. Add up that growth over 5-10 years. Neither the FARMS nor the increased projected enrollment at CCES alone shows no signs of slowing down. The FARMS rate at the new Middle will be much higher than what you state and MORE IMPORTANTLY the ENROLLMENT will be much much higher. Everyone knows the capacity numbers are bogus and under reported by MCPS and do not take into account the development happening in the next year or two. My main concern is capacity and overcrowding.
CCES houses a lot of diversity, just slightly less than RCF, even though everyone accuses the school of being rich because of it's name. It is a few affluent kids mixed in with a fair amount of disadvantaged kids. NCC actually has less diversity than CCES, very little in fact, it is more equivalent to Somerset or BE. I can attest that RHPS and CCES are bursting at the seams.
RFC, being a title one school has caps on classroom size, keeping them them small, sweet and condusive to learning. RCF has fortunately never had to deal with classrooms of 27 kids and multiple lunches for one grade because there are too many kids. Honestly, I think part of the problem is that from lack of experience, RCF has no idea how horrible being in an overcrowded school is. No. Idea. They have never had to deal with it. Meanwhile, CCES and RHPS familes have been crammed into classrooms like sardines for years and want some relief. They understand intimately exactly what overcrowded and overcapacity means because they live it and are tired of it. Hence the anger at the capacity numbers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:if the capacity numbers are bogus, then they are bogus for BE/westbard just as much as they are bogus for CCES/chevy chase lake. If you want to argue that you want to be in the less utilized school then that's fine-- make that argument but don't expect the world to stop spinning for you.
That's exactly it. The reality is that everyone not in a Title I school up and down this county is suffering from overcrowding. The blame for that is not RCF though, it is with the council, MCPS and ]
Well consider yourself lucky RCF that you never had to deal with overcrowding through elemenatry! How do you jusitify making other disadvataged kids who have to had to deal with overcrowding for years to even more of it? We have a lot of disadvantaged kids, almost as many as you, who did not have the luxury of small classes. It's not our faults we are overcrowded either.
The schools should start off as true equals in every way but since that won' t or can't happen, let's start with making the starting capacities equal!!!!
Anonymous wrote:if the capacity numbers are bogus, then they are bogus for BE/westbard just as much as they are bogus for CCES/chevy chase lake. If you want to argue that you want to be in the less utilized school then that's fine-- make that argument but don't expect the world to stop spinning for you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those who are saying the RCF community doesn't understand that this will be a drain in PTA resources - with the immersion folks our school is at around 25% FARMS. The new MS would have a lower FARMS rate than RCF (or course, our neighborhood-only FARMS rate is way higher). So I'm pretty confident that just as our PTA currently finds enough volunteers and donations, the new MS PTA will be able to do the same with a lower FARMS rate than we currently have.
Someone just dropped the mic.
Anonymous wrote:For those who are saying the RCF community doesn't understand that this will be a drain in PTA resources - with the immersion folks our school is at around 25% FARMS. The new MS would have a lower FARMS rate than RCF (or course, our neighborhood-only FARMS rate is way higher). So I'm pretty confident that just as our PTA currently finds enough volunteers and donations, the new MS PTA will be able to do the same with a lower FARMS rate than we currently have.
Anonymous wrote:Under that contiguous argument, it would be much easier, use Connecticut Ave and East West Hwy as boundary lines.
Problem then is half of Chevy Chase would go to Westland with Bethesda and Somerset, and there would be zero diversity.
Anonymous wrote:Not everyone at RCF supports Option 7, in fact many do not but some on the PTA have decided to say to the community and the board that "the school" supports Option 7. When they send emails out to the parents asking them to write to the board, they don't mention that Option 7 splits the school. I guess they are hoping that we don't notice. In fact some parents have been shocked to learn that RCF is supporting the option that splits the school. They have assumed the best of the PTA, and only realized after it was too late that this was the direction the PTA was going.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a strange feeling that the CC families are ticked because they probably would have preferred to stay at Westland and would have been fine splitting off, but it wasn't PC to say that to the rest of the school. Now they are stuck with what they see as a "worse" school.
That's what happens when you operate in bad faith...
Anonymous wrote:I'm a CCES parent and went to the boundary meetings that our PTA put on at our school.
It was by an overwhelming margin that we voted not breakup our connection with our Rosemary Hills catchment. Overcrowding was also very important to us, as we have been in an overcrowded RHPS and CCES situation for years.
I don't think it is a healthy environment to have Westland be an all white school like Pyle.