Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the way, a few states (too few) already require registration of certain guns. http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/gun-owner-responsibilities/registration-of-firearms/

Has there been a wave of state-sponsored gun confiscations in those states? Have those state registries led to any infringement of the Second Amendment? Nope.

Have registrations lowered the number of accidents? Link?

None of the accidental shootings posted so far occurred in either Hawaii or DC (where registration required). Most (all?) from states with no registration required.

Also, my proposal was not simply registration, but also a mandatory home check to ensure gun safely stored if children are also in the home. Seems simple and reasonable. Not sure why you'd oppose it. If you keep guns and ammo locked up (as you claimed previously) it should be easy for you to comply. Might save some of these other kids though.

It wasn't me you were replying to. What could be done or how easy it is for me to comply isn't the point. It would be easy for the government to GPS tag me, and I am not a criminal so what do I have to fear? Just as my right to privacy and free speech is fundamental, so is my right to keep/bear arms. I should not have to sacrifice aspects of my right as a law abiding citizen because the bad guys break laws. We don't live in a police state.

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Anonymous wrote:

It's not a good idea to sacrifice the rights of law abiding citizens just to make it easier for the government to do something.

Exactly what right of yours is being sacrificed by requiring gun registration?

None whatsoever. Quit your whining.

Per the ninth amendment of the US constitution:

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

And the tenth amendment:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Taken together, it's clear that everything not delegated to the Federal government, nor prohibited by the constitution, is a right that the state/people have. It's therefore my right to not have to register my ownership of a gun because the constitution and the US code does not give the Federal government the ability to perform gun registration.

Anonymous wrote:Thankfully, I don't need your help in providing a safe home for my family. I have little interest in those who do.

Exactly. And that attitude explains why the current crop of gun owners has failed its responsibility to keep the hobby safe. So now, the rest of us need to clean up the mess for you. You had your chance, and you failed.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I bet your boys have a dozen toy guns. Fess up, they do. So why not start changing the world with yourself? No one brought up Ghandi to you yet? Me thinks it's time you looked in the mirror.

Nope. Not dozens. I think there's a Nerf gun and a couple mini blasters for Star Wars Lego figures, but that's about it. We are more of a sports house than a gun house. I own three actual guns myself, but they are stored elsewhere, in a location without children. So yeah, I do walk the walk.

Sounds like you yourself are a safe storage house. So why are you so opposed to steps that make other gun houses safe?

I'm not the one to tell people how to live their lives. I'd like the same courtesy from them.

I am opposed to toy guns and other militarized toys. Don't strive for perfection for adults. Start with not teaching children to shoot at each other.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the way, a few states (too few) already require registration of certain guns. http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/gun-owner-responsibilities/registration-of-firearms/

Has there been a wave of state-sponsored gun confiscations in those states? Have those state registries led to any infringement of the Second Amendment? Nope.

Have registrations lowered the number of accidents? Link?

None of the accidental shootings posted so far occurred in either Hawaii or DC (where registration required). Most (all?) from states with no registration required.

Also, my proposal was not simply registration, but also a mandatory home check to ensure gun safely stored if children are also in the home. Seems simple and reasonable. Not sure why you'd oppose it. If you keep guns and ammo locked up (as you claimed previously) it should be easy for you to comply. Might save some of these other kids though.

Sorry, I don't want bureaucrats anywhere near my children. Thank you, but no, thank you. I'm cool with registrations of all sorts, but your paws need to be off and away from my family.

That's fine. In my view, you have the freedom to choose between your guns and reasonable safety regulations. If you don't want to comply with safety regs, don't have guns. If you want guns, comply with the regs. It's not hard. Your choice.

Thankfully, I don't need your help in providing a safe home for my family. I have little interest in those who do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the way, a few states (too few) already require registration of certain guns. http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/gun-owner-responsibilities/registration-of-firearms/

Has there been a wave of state-sponsored gun confiscations in those states? Have those state registries led to any infringement of the Second Amendment? Nope.

Have registrations lowered the number of accidents? Link?

None of the accidental shootings posted so far occurred in either Hawaii or DC (where registration required). Most (all?) from states with no registration required.

Also, my proposal was not simply registration, but also a mandatory home check to ensure gun safely stored if children are also in the home. Seems simple and reasonable. Not sure why you'd oppose it. If you keep guns and ammo locked up (as you claimed previously) it should be easy for you to comply. Might save some of these other kids though.

Sorry, I don't want bureaucrats anywhere near my children. Thank you, but no, thank you. I'm cool with registrations of all sorts, but your paws need to be off and away from my family.

That's fine. In my view, you have the freedom to choose between your guns and reasonable safety regulations. If you don't want to comply with safety regs, don't have guns. If you want guns, comply with the regs. It's not hard. Your choice.

Anonymous wrote:OP, I bet your boys have a dozen toy guns. Fess up, they do. So why not start changing the world with yourself? No one brought up Ghandi to you yet? Me thinks it's time you looked in the mirror.

Nope. Not dozens. I think there's a Nerf gun and a couple mini blasters for Star Wars Lego figures, but that's about it. We are more of a sports house than a gun house. I own three actual guns myself, but they are stored elsewhere, in a location without children. So yeah, I do walk the walk.

Sounds like you yourself are a safe storage house. So why are you so opposed to steps that make other gun houses safe?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the way, a few states (too few) already require registration of certain guns. http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/gun-owner-responsibilities/registration-of-firearms/

Has there been a wave of state-sponsored gun confiscations in those states? Have those state registries led to any infringement of the Second Amendment? Nope.

Have registrations lowered the number of accidents? Link?

None of the accidental shootings posted so far occurred in either Hawaii or DC (where registration required). Most (all?) from states with no registration required.

Also, my proposal was not simply registration, but also a mandatory home check to ensure gun safely stored if children are also in the home. Seems simple and reasonable. Not sure why you'd oppose it. If you keep guns and ammo locked up (as you claimed previously) it should be easy for you to comply. Might save some of these other kids though.

Sorry, I don't want bureaucrats anywhere near my children. Thank you, but no, thank you. I'm cool with registrations of all sorts, but your paws need to be off and away from my family.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By the way, a few states (too few) already require registration of certain guns. http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/gun-owner-responsibilities/registration-of-firearms/

Has there been a wave of state-sponsored gun confiscations in those states? Have those state registries led to any infringement of the Second Amendment? Nope.

Have registrations lowered the number of accidents? Link?

None of the accidental shootings posted so far occurred in either Hawaii or DC (where registration required). Most (all?) from states with no registration required.

Also, my proposal was not simply registration, but also a mandatory home check to ensure gun safely stored if children are also in the home. Seems simple and reasonable. Not sure why you'd oppose it. If you keep guns and ammo locked up (as you claimed previously) it should be easy for you to comply. Might save some of these other kids though.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, charge the parents - they are the reason their children are dead. And they should pay for it.

What exactly will you achieve by putting their living children in foster care?

Some problems don't have solutions. I think those parents are punished enough already.

No solution is perfect.

But I feel like if we actually start charging people for these things, maybe people will realize they need to not be so fucking stupid to leave a loaded weapon anywhere a child might get it.

These are NOT accidents. These are negligent parents who should be treated as such.

Anonymous wrote:By the way, a few states (too few) already require registration of certain guns. http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/gun-owner-responsibilities/registration-of-firearms/

Has there been a wave of state-sponsored gun confiscations in those states? Have those state registries led to any infringement of the Second Amendment? Nope.

Have registrations lowered the number of accidents? Link?

OP, I bet your boys have a dozen toy guns. Fess up, they do. So why not start changing the world with yourself? No one brought up Ghandi to you yet? Me thinks it's time you looked in the mirror.

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, charge the parents - they are the reason their children are dead. And they should pay for it.

What exactly will you achieve by putting their living children in foster care?

Some problems don't have solutions. I think those parents are punished enough already.

By the way, a few states (too few) already require registration of certain guns. http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/gun-owner-responsibilities/registration-of-firearms/

Has there been a wave of state-sponsored gun confiscations in those states? Have those state registries led to any infringement of the Second Amendment? Nope.