Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:49     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Geez all the back and forth- this baby was two years old. Can you even imagine the terror and trauma? Imagine being his mom or dad witnessing such a thing happening to to their little boy and completely unable to stop it?

If that happened to my precious boy (my only child) I would be done and looking for an exit strategy.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:47     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.


Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:45     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disney was negligent.

Every family that witnessed the tragedy will sue. Disney will quickly settle, paying through the nose and securing no disclosure agreements to prevent interviews, and signs will be posted all over the property (to shift risk).


I'm sure they will get money but Disney wasn't negligent. Nature happens. An alligator, indigenous to fresh water in Florida and animals who feed at night, got into a pond on Disney property. Shit happens. It's tragic but it's the first time it's ever happened in this park that serves millions of visitors so to say it was negligence isn't fair. It was an unfortunate accident.


Exactly. I am betting that those that insist signs should be posted all over the Disney property also agree that all establishments selling coffee should have a warning on the cup that says, “Caution: contents are hot.” Or, warnings on a blender that says: “Caution: do not put hand in blender when blender is on.”
These are the type of truly ridiculous warnings that have resulted from stupid lawsuits.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:44     Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/11581147@N06/6047605347/?ytcheck=1

Warning sign at Disney's private island about sea life. Such signs are posted at every beach entrance. Why doesn't disney world have signs warning about gators?


Frankly, I'm sure that Disney employs dozens of lawyers, so there is no way that (1) Disney was not aware of the gators given the reports, and (2) that someone did not weigh the relative costs and benefits of putting up a "DEADLY ALLIGATORS" sign. They just decided that the minuscule risk of attack was not outweighed by the obvious "ambiance" drawback of gator signs in the Magic Kingdom. Wrong call.

Also I think it is far from clear that a "no swimming sign" means no wading, at least if you are talking about a toddler simply playing right at the edge.


No swimming means do not go into n the water. I would guess because of bacteria, first, and second because of dangerous fish, snakes, alligators, etc.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:43     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:43     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
They've already killed four alligators from the lake to see if they could find evidence of the attacker. So far, no. I suspect there will be a lot more dead gators from that lake. If anything, I think Disney is likely to use this to get whatever waivers they need to cull alligators on their property more ruthlessly.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:38     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Disney was negligent.

Every family that witnessed the tragedy will sue. Disney will quickly settle, paying through the nose and securing no disclosure agreements to prevent interviews, and signs will be posted all over the property (to shift risk).


I'm sure they will get money but Disney wasn't negligent. Nature happens. An alligator, indigenous to fresh water in Florida and animals who feed at night, got into a pond on Disney property. Shit happens. It's tragic but it's the first time it's ever happened in this park that serves millions of visitors so to say it was negligence isn't fair. It was an unfortunate accident.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:38     Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Mouse is going to need to lawyer up. Big time.


Yes, good point. I'm sure that one of the world's largest corporations, which happens to run the most popular vacation destination in the world, has absolutely no in-house attorneys, nor have they ever dealt with someone dying on property.

They're probably looking for a lawyer in the Yellow Pages right now.


LOL. This post cheered me up in the midst of all the tragedy. I love your snarky humor, DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:37     Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
https://www.flickr.com/photos/11581147@N06/6047605347/?ytcheck=1

Warning sign at Disney's private island about sea life. Such signs are posted at every beach entrance. Why doesn't disney world have signs warning about gators?


Frankly, I'm sure that Disney employs dozens of lawyers, so there is no way that (1) Disney was not aware of the gators given the reports, and (2) that someone did not weigh the relative costs and benefits of putting up a "DEADLY ALLIGATORS" sign. They just decided that the minuscule risk of attack was not outweighed by the obvious "ambiance" drawback of gator signs in the Magic Kingdom. Wrong call.

Also I think it is far from clear that a "no swimming sign" means no wading, at least if you are talking about a toddler simply playing right at the edge.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:37     Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Mouse is going to need to lawyer up. Big time.


Yes, good point. I'm sure that one of the world's largest corporations, which happens to run the most popular vacation destination in the world, has absolutely no in-house attorneys, nor have they ever dealt with someone dying on property.

They're probably looking for a lawyer in the Yellow Pages right now.


They're quickly trying to figure out how many people witnessed it so they know how many people they'll need to pay off in exchange for a non-disclosure agreement. They'll need to figure out how much to pay off the parents. They'll need to throw up signs to shift risk. And then they'll need to figure out damage control in terms of promotional packages to woo people back. Lastly, this will factor in to the next ticket price increase.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:35     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
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Anonymous wrote:Why is a 2-yr-old up at 9:30?


that's your response to this tragedy? are you the spawn of trump?


I guess, and no. Gators will eat what they eat. Keep kids away and they won't get eaten.


Why would anyone expect gators to be at disney? How would you know to take precautions at an amusement park or resort?

They spray for mosquitoes but don't remove gators? WTF?


Have you never been to Florida? Gators are as common there as deer are here. They can be found at every resort and golf course.


You realize Disney is a tourist resort and the majority of people there haven't been to Florida and would not know this, right?


How can people NOT KNOW about alligators in Florida? Their biggest college football team is the GATORS. A huge chunk of the state is called ALLIGATOR ALLEY. There's a massive swamp known as the Everglades. I get nobody expects gators at Disney and clearly they are not typically an issue but shit, it's a bit of a stretch to assume people should be shocked that alligators exist in Florida.


In Florida, probably. In Disney, no.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:35     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:How is it that so many awful things keep happening in Orlando. This is too sad for words. I can't begin to imagine what the poor parents are going through right now. No one expects this to happen on Disney property.

I'd like to hold out hope, but how could such a small child survive this?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-child-dragged-alligator-disney-20160614-story.html


"Some witnesses said they saw the toddler along the beach near the water, but no eye-witnesses to him being dragged into the water by an alligator were available for comment Tuesday night."

Makes me wonder if this is more hysteria then actually what happened. I guess time will tell.


The parents who tried to save their child are not available to comment. THOSE are the eyewitnesses.


It's a direct quote from the article. How do you know the parents were eye witnesses? They could have been distracted watching the movie or fireworks.



I just waited a bit since I knew the news would prove my point.. Of course they saw it!!
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:31     Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:The Mouse is going to need to lawyer up. Big time.


Yes, good point. I'm sure that one of the world's largest corporations, which happens to run the most popular vacation destination in the world, has absolutely no in-house attorneys, nor have they ever dealt with someone dying on property.

They're probably looking for a lawyer in the Yellow Pages right now.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:30     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Disney was negligent.

Every family that witnessed the tragedy will sue. Disney will quickly settle, paying through the nose and securing no disclosure agreements to prevent interviews, and signs will be posted all over the property (to shift risk).
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:28     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:OMG. How is it possible that they have gators on their property?!?! You'd think it was a man-made lagoon free of gators.


OMG you should get out of DC.