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Anonymous wrote:This is what the Hold Up violence draws from... and WELP... It's art from a white woman!!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a56RPZ_cbdc

Typical white feminist. You just have to make everything about you.

Well actually, you're kind of making it all about *you*. Other people are just pointing out that all the art and input Beyonce used on Lemonade didn't come from 100% black collaborators. She pulled from various places, mostly African and black, but not everything is BLACK INSPIRED.

No one said that it was 100% Black inspired. But why did pp feel the need to gleefully point out (with 5 exclamation marks) one white woman's contribution? What point are you trying to make? And other posters are listing all the white artists that Beyoncé collaborated with, as if that somehow makes Lemonade less of a celebration of Black women.

Lemonade is pretty sad. I wouldn't call it a celebration of anything unless you enjoy pain, hurt, sorrow, infidelity, etc.

Then it went over your head.

The things PP listed are life. Period. Especially for black women. So unless you think the existence of the black woman is sadness personified, you need to look at the end. Lemonade is so much more than pain, hurt, sorrow, infidelity. It's redemption, forgiveness, hope, freedom, and above everything, love.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what the Hold Up violence draws from... and WELP... It's art from a white woman!!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a56RPZ_cbdc

Typical white feminist. You just have to make everything about you.

Well actually, you're kind of making it all about *you*. Other people are just pointing out that all the art and input Beyonce used on Lemonade didn't come from 100% black collaborators. She pulled from various places, mostly African and black, but not everything is BLACK INSPIRED.

No one said that it was 100% Black inspired. But why did pp feel the need to gleefully point out (with 5 exclamation marks) one white woman's contribution? What point are you trying to make? And other posters are listing all the white artists that Beyoncé collaborated with, as if that somehow makes Lemonade less of a celebration of Black women.

Lemonade is pretty sad. I wouldn't call it a celebration of anything unless you enjoy pain, hurt, sorrow, infidelity, etc.

Then it went over your head.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what the Hold Up violence draws from... and WELP... It's art from a white woman!!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a56RPZ_cbdc

Typical white feminist. You just have to make everything about you.

Well actually, you're kind of making it all about *you*. Other people are just pointing out that all the art and input Beyonce used on Lemonade didn't come from 100% black collaborators. She pulled from various places, mostly African and black, but not everything is BLACK INSPIRED.

No one said that it was 100% Black inspired. But why did pp feel the need to gleefully point out (with 5 exclamation marks) one white woman's contribution? What point are you trying to make? And other posters are listing all the white artists that Beyoncé collaborated with, as if that somehow makes Lemonade less of a celebration of Black women.

Lemonade is pretty sad. I wouldn't call it a celebration of anything unless you enjoy pain, hurt, sorrow, infidelity, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what the Hold Up violence draws from... and WELP... It's art from a white woman!!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a56RPZ_cbdc

Typical white feminist. You just have to make everything about you.

Well actually, you're kind of making it all about *you*. Other people are just pointing out that all the art and input Beyonce used on Lemonade didn't come from 100% black collaborators. She pulled from various places, mostly African and black, but not everything is BLACK INSPIRED.

No one said that it was 100% Black inspired. But why did pp feel the need to gleefully point out (with 5 exclamation marks) one white woman's contribution? What point are you trying to make? And other posters are listing all the white artists that Beyoncé collaborated with, as if that somehow makes Lemonade less of a celebration of Black women.

Anonymous wrote:http://www.bustle.com/articles/120684-7-things-feminists-of-color-want-white-feminists-to-know

This link explains some of the issues that women of color have with white feminism.

Christ, so tell me when you'll be happy? White women are fighting the fight, too against the Patriarchy... There are plenty of white woman struggles that you can't say you know because you are not white... and save it, do not tell me they do not exist because you are not me and do not know my experiences. Being white isn't the end all be all magical goodness to privilege and if you think it is then you are pretty stupid.

I don't believe Beyonce had a "BLACK FEMINIST" sign lit up at the mtv video awards, it simply said "FEMINIST"....

Jeez who made all this racist lemonade? I don't want any, thanks. I'll go back over here where I can hate Beyoncé for being fake and shallow while you guys go back to your little racial and political agendas.

Not all threads about black ppl have to end up in a racial debate. Sheesh.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/120684-7-things-feminists-of-color-want-white-feminists-to-know

This link explains some of the issues that women of color have with white feminism.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what the Hold Up violence draws from... and WELP... It's art from a white woman!!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a56RPZ_cbdc

Typical white feminist. You just have to make everything about you.

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The bolded comment will do nothing to open up the dialog and help white, black, all feminists do the best for their sex. What would your reaction be if I said "typical black feminist" and then insulted you?

If you care, write a more thoughtful comment.

I don't care. As a Black feminist, I have zero interest helping white women.

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true. Formation is awesome but then got ends flat when she basically confuses true feminist empowerment with counting your "paper" or money. That does prey on a certain segment of the black population.

Because white people don't like money. stfu.

Your arguments are getting old... something is pointed out and all you can do is say "because white people" or "it's not yours"... Why not admit that it is a great art piece about blacks, but B collaborated with whites and also used them as inspiration. There is middle ground here. And honestly, until B herself goes on record and discusses her inspirations and what her album is about all the blog posts and assumptions posted here are merely opinion, whether they come from Time or a AA woman. Stop speaking for B.

I'm a NP and that was sarcasm. You said speaking about money is a prey on a "certain segment of the black population." That's bullshit, white people like money just as much as the next race.

I did not say that... you are dealing with more than one person commenting.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what the Hold Up violence draws from... and WELP... It's art from a white woman!!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a56RPZ_cbdc

Typical white feminist. You just have to make everything about you.

+1000000

The bolded comment will do nothing to open up the dialog and help white, black, all feminists do the best for their sex. What would your reaction be if I said "typical black feminist" and then insulted you?

If you care, write a more thoughtful comment.

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true. Formation is awesome but then got ends flat when she basically confuses true feminist empowerment with counting your "paper" or money. That does prey on a certain segment of the black population.

Because white people don't like money. stfu.

Your arguments are getting old... something is pointed out and all you can do is say "because white people" or "it's not yours"... Why not admit that it is a great art piece about blacks, but B collaborated with whites and also used them as inspiration. There is middle ground here. And honestly, until B herself goes on record and discusses her inspirations and what her album is about all the blog posts and assumptions posted here are merely opinion, whether they come from Time or a AA woman. Stop speaking for B.

I'm a NP and that was sarcasm. You said speaking about money is a prey on a "certain segment of the black population." That's bullshit, white people like money just as much as the next race.

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Anonymous wrote:

true. Formation is awesome but then got ends flat when she basically confuses true feminist empowerment with counting your "paper" or money. That does prey on a certain segment of the black population.

Because white people don't like money. stfu.

Your arguments are getting old... something is pointed out and all you can do is say "because white people" or "it's not yours"... Why not admit that it is a great art piece about blacks, but B collaborated with whites and also used them as inspiration. There is middle ground here. And honestly, until B herself goes on record and discusses her inspirations and what her album is about all the blog posts and assumptions posted here are merely opinion, whether they come from Time or a AA woman. Stop speaking for B.

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true. Formation is awesome but then got ends flat when she basically confuses true feminist empowerment with counting your "paper" or money. That does prey on a certain segment of the black population.

Because white people don't like money. stfu.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what the Hold Up violence draws from... and WELP... It's art from a white woman!!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a56RPZ_cbdc

Typical white feminist. You just have to make everything about you.

Well actually, you're kind of making it all about *you*. Other people are just pointing out that all the art and input Beyonce used on Lemonade didn't come from 100% black collaborators. She pulled from various places, mostly African and black, but not everything is BLACK INSPIRED.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what the Hold Up violence draws from... and WELP... It's art from a white woman!!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a56RPZ_cbdc

Typical white feminist. You just have to make everything about you.

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