Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 23:23     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:38 to a welder's school like VPI is not that impressive, is it?


LOL, you mean 38 out of 480 chose an in-state school is a bad thing? Not everyone can afford out of state. These acceptances are amazing: https://fcps.tjhsst.edu/coursemgmt/media/300/resource/TJ%20Profile%202015-16%20online%20hq.pdf

But at the end of the day, sometimes $$.


179 / 480 went to instate. 38% - same %age as any other high school in FCPS region.

Virginia -->
William and Mary
George Mason
James Madison
UVA
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

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Not arguing with that. But, the QUALITY of the acceptance list is not the same. Many parents also value the education their kids received during the 4 years at TJ. If your end game is the college name, then you don't understand that this is a long journey and their kids received a very unique education.


Its disappointing when parents I know questioned our decision to send our child to TJ since they would "still end up at good state schools like UVA as their base school friends." Seriously, I'm not interested in "gaming" the system and my child's college acceptances are not for you to judge. The reason TJ was right for our family included 1000 reasons. Do you need to break others down to feel good about your base school? I'm not disparaging your choice to stay at the base.


South Lakes (with IB) sent 35 to UVa last year. I find that impressive.
https://www.restonnow.com/2015/05/29/heres-where-south-lakes-hs-seniors-will-head-next-fall/
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 22:04     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are simply making things up when you claim TJ was built to challenge bored under-performers. It wasn't. It was built for two reasons. First, the county politicians at the time - largely Republicans - wanted a "tech" school that would reinforce the message that Fairfax County was open for business for any company willing to relocate to office parks in Chantilly, Reston and Tysons. Second, FCPS had excess capacity in eastern Fairfax, so it was either going to close one of Annandale, Jefferson or Stuart, or open a magnet there. At the time, FCPS was still overwhelmingly white, so there was no expectation that Asians already familiar with cut-throat admissions to secondary schools would flock there and dominate the school. But they did, so depending on the day of the week FCPS is either proud of having the top high school in the country or embarrassed that its flagship school has demographics that look nothing like the county in which it is located.


I was there when it was approved; I spoke before the school board. I was questioned on the lack of challenges; how one one day, my Algebra II teacher called home to 1) report that I was underperforming in class because of missed homework assignments (got A's on the test), and at the same time I scored the highest in the school on a math assessment, and I was going to be invited to go to states....How the curriculum was crushing my enthusiasm for science.

When include HW on the grade, you punish the truly brilliant kids. For me, it was just busy work. I would do the work until I understood the process. But, when 25% of your grade is homework, then 100% on tests and 0 on homework gives a C. That is how I got a C in Algebra II-Trig.


If you couldn't be counted on to complete homework at a base school, why would they believe you could keep up with the work at TJ? Sorry, but there's a LOT of busy work that goes with being an employee, a spouse, a parent... Welcome to life.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 20:24     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:38 to a welder's school like VPI is not that impressive, is it?


LOL, you mean 38 out of 480 chose an in-state school is a bad thing? Not everyone can afford out of state. These acceptances are amazing: https://fcps.tjhsst.edu/coursemgmt/media/300/resource/TJ%20Profile%202015-16%20online%20hq.pdf

But at the end of the day, sometimes $$.


179 / 480 went to instate. 38% - same %age as any other high school in FCPS region.

Virginia -->
William and Mary
George Mason
James Madison
UVA
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

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You mean other high schools schools sent 81 to UVA?? LOLOL


81 students went to UVA, but there were 191 students got accepted by UVA. Tell me which base high school got accepted these many students by UVA each year.


Absolutely none can match TJ.. But, you are stupid to see what the point of that post was.

TJ just gets all the GT/AAP students at one place.. They would get into UVA even from base schools also, not because of TJ. I am so surprised by the IQ of people who try to see why TJ is great.



Probably not true in all cases. You can't say that kids have a fixed destined college "no matter where they go to high school". TJ kids progress into a new math class each semester, take science courses not offered at other schools, and do complex research projects, etc... Perhaps TJ propels some kids even further than their apparent "fated" school.


Posters say don't game the college admissions over and over again and then say it's idiotic to attend TJ because TJ grads are at a disadvantage in college admissions (which is not true looking at the college acceptances) totally disregarding the unique TJ experience. Most TJ kids attend for the unique Post AP courses, advanced labs, research opportunities, teachers who gave up teaching at universities to teach at TJ, research mentorship opportunities, 8th period etc. not available at base schools.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 18:19     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Sad nobody defended VT.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 17:47     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:38 to a welder's school like VPI is not that impressive, is it?


LOL, you mean 38 out of 480 chose an in-state school is a bad thing? Not everyone can afford out of state. These acceptances are amazing: https://fcps.tjhsst.edu/coursemgmt/media/300/resource/TJ%20Profile%202015-16%20online%20hq.pdf

But at the end of the day, sometimes $$.


179 / 480 went to instate. 38% - same %age as any other high school in FCPS region.

Virginia -->
William and Mary
George Mason
James Madison
UVA
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

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You mean other high schools schools sent 81 to UVA?? LOLOL


81 students went to UVA, but there were 191 students got accepted by UVA. Tell me which base high school got accepted these many students by UVA each year.


Absolutely none can match TJ.. But, you are stupid to see what the point of that post was.

TJ just gets all the GT/AAP students at one place.. They would get into UVA even from base schools also, not because of TJ. I am so surprised by the IQ of people who try to see why TJ is great.



Probably not true in all cases. You can't say that kids have a fixed destined college "no matter where they go to high school". TJ kids progress into a new math class each semester, take science courses not offered at other schools, and do complex research projects, etc... Perhaps TJ propels some kids even further than their apparent "fated" school.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 17:43     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:38 to a welder's school like VPI is not that impressive, is it?


LOL, you mean 38 out of 480 chose an in-state school is a bad thing? Not everyone can afford out of state. These acceptances are amazing: https://fcps.tjhsst.edu/coursemgmt/media/300/resource/TJ%20Profile%202015-16%20online%20hq.pdf

But at the end of the day, sometimes $$.


179 / 480 went to instate. 38% - same %age as any other high school in FCPS region.

Virginia -->
William and Mary
George Mason
James Madison
UVA
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

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You mean other high schools schools sent 81 to UVA?? LOLOL


81 students went to UVA, but there were 191 students got accepted by UVA. Tell me which base high school got accepted these many students by UVA each year.


Absolutely none can match TJ.. But, you are stupid to see what the point of that post was.

TJ just gets all the GT/AAP students at one place.. They would get into UVA even from base schools also, not because of TJ. I am so surprised by the IQ of people who try to see why TJ is great.



Do you have a kid at TJ? Or just spewing hatred? That's what people don't understand.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 17:39     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:38 to a welder's school like VPI is not that impressive, is it?


LOL, you mean 38 out of 480 chose an in-state school is a bad thing? Not everyone can afford out of state. These acceptances are amazing: https://fcps.tjhsst.edu/coursemgmt/media/300/resource/TJ%20Profile%202015-16%20online%20hq.pdf

But at the end of the day, sometimes $$.


179 / 480 went to instate. 38% - same %age as any other high school in FCPS region.

Virginia -->
William and Mary
George Mason
James Madison
UVA
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

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You mean other high schools schools sent 81 to UVA?? LOLOL


81 students went to UVA, but there were 191 students got accepted by UVA. Tell me which base high school got accepted these many students by UVA each year.


Absolutely none can match TJ.. But, you are stupid to see what the point of that post was.

TJ just gets all the GT/AAP students at one place.. They would get into UVA even from base schools also, not because of TJ. I am so surprised by the IQ of people who try to see why TJ is great.

Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 16:58     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:38 to a welder's school like VPI is not that impressive, is it?


LOL, you mean 38 out of 480 chose an in-state school is a bad thing? Not everyone can afford out of state. These acceptances are amazing: https://fcps.tjhsst.edu/coursemgmt/media/300/resource/TJ%20Profile%202015-16%20online%20hq.pdf

But at the end of the day, sometimes $$.


179 / 480 went to instate. 38% - same %age as any other high school in FCPS region.

Virginia -->
William and Mary
George Mason
James Madison
UVA
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

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You mean other high schools schools sent 81 to UVA?? LOLOL


81 students went to UVA, but there were 191 students got accepted by UVA. Tell me which base high school got accepted these many students by UVA each year.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 15:24     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:38 to a welder's school like VPI is not that impressive, is it?


LOL, you mean 38 out of 480 chose an in-state school is a bad thing? Not everyone can afford out of state. These acceptances are amazing: https://fcps.tjhsst.edu/coursemgmt/media/300/resource/TJ%20Profile%202015-16%20online%20hq.pdf

But at the end of the day, sometimes $$.


179 / 480 went to instate. 38% - same %age as any other high school in FCPS region.

Virginia -->
William and Mary
George Mason
James Madison
UVA
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

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"38% same as other high schools in FCPS" Source??
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 15:23     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:38 to a welder's school like VPI is not that impressive, is it?


LOL, you mean 38 out of 480 chose an in-state school is a bad thing? Not everyone can afford out of state. These acceptances are amazing: https://fcps.tjhsst.edu/coursemgmt/media/300/resource/TJ%20Profile%202015-16%20online%20hq.pdf

But at the end of the day, sometimes $$.


179 / 480 went to instate. 38% - same %age as any other high school in FCPS region.

Virginia -->
William and Mary
George Mason
James Madison
UVA
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

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You mean other high schools schools sent 81 to UVA?? LOLOL
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 15:18     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:38 to a welder's school like VPI is not that impressive, is it?


LOL, you mean 38 out of 480 chose an in-state school is a bad thing? Not everyone can afford out of state. These acceptances are amazing: https://fcps.tjhsst.edu/coursemgmt/media/300/resource/TJ%20Profile%202015-16%20online%20hq.pdf

But at the end of the day, sometimes $$.


179 / 480 went to instate. 38% - same %age as any other high school in FCPS region.

Virginia -->
William and Mary
George Mason
James Madison
UVA
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

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Not arguing with that. But, the QUALITY of the acceptance list is not the same. Many parents also value the education their kids received during the 4 years at TJ. If your end game is the college name, then you don't understand that this is a long journey and their kids received a very unique education.


Its disappointing when parents I know questioned our decision to send our child to TJ since they would "still end up at good state schools like UVA as their base school friends." Seriously, I'm not interested in "gaming" the system and my child's college acceptances are not for you to judge. The reason TJ was right for our family included 1000 reasons. Do you need to break others down to feel good about your base school? I'm not disparaging your choice to stay at the base.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 15:10     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:38 to a welder's school like VPI is not that impressive, is it?


LOL, you mean 38 out of 480 chose an in-state school is a bad thing? Not everyone can afford out of state. These acceptances are amazing: https://fcps.tjhsst.edu/coursemgmt/media/300/resource/TJ%20Profile%202015-16%20online%20hq.pdf

But at the end of the day, sometimes $$.


179 / 480 went to instate. 38% - same %age as any other high school in FCPS region.

Virginia -->
William and Mary
George Mason
James Madison
UVA
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

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Not arguing with that. But, the QUALITY of the acceptance list is not the same. Many parents also value the education their kids received during the 4 years at TJ. If your end game is the college name, then you don't understand that this is a long journey and their kids received a very unique education.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 15:08     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:38 to a welder's school like VPI is not that impressive, is it?


LOL, you mean 38 out of 480 chose an in-state school is a bad thing? Not everyone can afford out of state. These acceptances are amazing: https://fcps.tjhsst.edu/coursemgmt/media/300/resource/TJ%20Profile%202015-16%20online%20hq.pdf

But at the end of the day, sometimes $$.


179 / 480 went to instate. 38% - same %age as any other high school in FCPS region.

Virginia -->
William and Mary
George Mason
James Madison
UVA
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

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Other HS have a higher percentage of kids remaining in-state.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 15:05     Subject: This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I agree that TJ is not the best place to go to get into a great college - it's because a kid wants a specific STEM experience in high school. My DS (TJ student) and I are certain that his college acceptances will be roughly the same whether at his base school or at TJ. He went because he wanted that environment. Getting into a highly selective college is like winning the lottery - no matter where you go to high school - it is just not that likely to happen and sets kids up for failure if it is a stated goal. Yet, there are hundreds of life-changing colleges that have reasonable acceptance rates. My DS will limey be headed to one of those, like I went to.


+ 1


+2
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 15:02     Subject: Re:This bothers me..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:38 to a welder's school like VPI is not that impressive, is it?


LOL, you mean 38 out of 480 chose an in-state school is a bad thing? Not everyone can afford out of state. These acceptances are amazing: https://fcps.tjhsst.edu/coursemgmt/media/300/resource/TJ%20Profile%202015-16%20online%20hq.pdf

But at the end of the day, sometimes $$.


179 / 480 went to instate. 38% - same %age as any other high school in FCPS region.

Virginia -->
William and Mary
George Mason
James Madison
UVA
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

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