Anonymous
Post 04/19/2016 19:35     Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they have never had a crisis in their life. When life's tragedies/unfairness touch our lives, the only way to survive is to find something bigger than yourself to believe in.

I have survived a brutal assault, family member suicide and murder, .my faith was what got me through the agony and sustains me.


Good for you. Please don't assume what worked for you is what's needed for everyone.


+1, I have had multiple miscarriages, my living child had cancer - any "faith" I had is long gone.


I understand your anger and I wish you peace.

Np, but anger? Why would that PP be anger?


Perhaps the assumption is that losing children makes people angry with god, so they reject him.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2016 19:33     Subject: Re:Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm still privately religious, but I can't be bothered to get up and go really. Considering how much young people like us have to work just to afford a decent lifestyle, I want downtime to be downtime.


Maybe if you went to church, god would bless you with a better job and lifestyle


Lol. Is that how it works?


On another thread, some people mentioned how their incomes improved when they upped their pledge to the church.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2016 19:32     Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:I can certainly understand why this young person is not religious:
http://deadstate.org/permanantly-disabled-idaho-woman-wants-her-faith-healing-parents-prosecuted/


That's an extreme case in which crazy parents were protected by a crazy law. It's too bad God did not intervene in this situations. Surely this is not what He would have wanted for this child, but He did give us free will, and this is what can happen when parents express their free will at the expense of their helpless children.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2016 19:30     Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they have never had a crisis in their life. When life's tragedies/unfairness touch our lives, the only way to survive is to find something bigger than yourself to believe in.

I have survived a brutal assault, family member suicide and murder, .my faith was what got me through the agony and sustains me.


Good for you. Please don't assume what worked for you is what's needed for everyone.


+1, I have had multiple miscarriages, my living child had cancer - any "faith" I had is long gone.


I understand your anger and I wish you peace.

Np, but anger? Why would that PP be anger?
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2016 19:25     Subject: Re:Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm still privately religious, but I can't be bothered to get up and go really. Considering how much young people like us have to work just to afford a decent lifestyle, I want downtime to be downtime.


Maybe if you went to church, god would bless you with a better job and lifestyle


Lol. Is that how it works?
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2016 19:20     Subject: Re:Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:I'm still privately religious, but I can't be bothered to get up and go really. Considering how much young people like us have to work just to afford a decent lifestyle, I want downtime to be downtime.


Maybe if you went to church, god would bless you with a better job and lifestyle
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2016 13:07     Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
I can certainly understand why this young person is not religious:
http://deadstate.org/permanantly-disabled-idaho-woman-wants-her-faith-healing-parents-prosecuted/
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2016 11:46     Subject: Re:Why are the young people non-religious
I'm still privately religious, but I can't be bothered to get up and go really. Considering how much young people like us have to work just to afford a decent lifestyle, I want downtime to be downtime.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 20:55     Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they have never had a crisis in their life. When life's tragedies/unfairness touch our lives, the only way to survive is to find something bigger than yourself to believe in.

I have survived a brutal assault, family member suicide and murder, .my faith was what got me through the agony and sustains me.


Good for you. Please don't assume what worked for you is what's needed for everyone.


Studies have shown that people facing health challenges who pray recover faster and have better outcomes than those who don't. Interestingly, however, it didn't matter what religion they were or what "God" they were praying to.


or even if they weren't praying to a god. Meditation works too.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 20:53     Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they have never had a crisis in their life. When life's tragedies/unfairness touch our lives, the only way to survive is to find something bigger than yourself to believe in.

I have survived a brutal assault, family member suicide and murder, .my faith was what got me through the agony and sustains me.


Good for you. Please don't assume what worked for you is what's needed for everyone.


Studies have shown that people facing health challenges who pray recover faster and have better outcomes than those who don't. Interestingly, however, it didn't matter what religion they were or what "God" they were praying to.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 18:27     Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they have never had a crisis in their life. When life's tragedies/unfairness touch our lives, the only way to survive is to find something bigger than yourself to believe in.

I have survived a brutal assault, family member suicide and murder, .my faith was what got me through the agony and sustains me.


Good for you. Please don't assume what worked for you is what's needed for everyone.


+1, I have had multiple miscarriages, my living child had cancer - any "faith" I had is long gone.


I understand your anger and I wish you peace.


Maybe it's not just anger. Maybe it's recognition that a good god would not act in such a way.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 17:37     Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they have never had a crisis in their life. When life's tragedies/unfairness touch our lives, the only way to survive is to find something bigger than yourself to believe in.

I have survived a brutal assault, family member suicide and murder, .my faith was what got me through the agony and sustains me.


Good for you. Please don't assume what worked for you is what's needed for everyone.


+1, I have had multiple miscarriages, my living child had cancer - any "faith" I had is long gone.


I understand your anger and I wish you peace.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 17:27     Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they have never had a crisis in their life. When life's tragedies/unfairness touch our lives, the only way to survive is to find something bigger than yourself to believe in.

I have survived a brutal assault, family member suicide and murder, .my faith was what got me through the agony and sustains me.


Good for you. Please don't assume what worked for you is what's needed for everyone.


+1, I have had multiple miscarriages, my living child had cancer - any "faith" I had is long gone.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 16:38     Subject: Re:Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you are trying to justify behavior that you know deep down is sinful.
And yeah many of the specific rules in the old testament were fulfilled by the coming of Christ and is why we aren't Jewish
but the bible is the infallible word of God once you start picking and choosing what is relevant and what isn't you are going down a dangerously slippery slope





Once Jesus came along, it gave us permission to disregard things in the old testament that we didn't like and to interpret anything else we didn't like however we liked.


That's a wrong and unfair interpretation of Jesus' own attitude towards the Old Testament, and I suspect you know it.


What did Jesus say about the Old Testament?



Famously, he boils down all the rules in the Gospel of Matthew:
Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

There were also multiple incidents where Jesus ignored Old Testament dietary rules (he said, basically, that it's not what goes into your mouth but what comes out of it) and ritual purification rules (Jesus consorted with people considered "unclean").

In sum, Jesus was quite clear about what was important vs. not important in the Old Testament. It's not a case of "pick and choose" at all.


But he also said in Matthew 5:17:

""Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2016 14:45     Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:Because they have never had a crisis in their life. When life's tragedies/unfairness touch our lives, the only way to survive is to find something bigger than yourself to believe in.

I have survived a brutal assault, family member suicide and murder, .my faith was what got me through the agony and sustains me.


Good for you. Please don't assume what worked for you is what's needed for everyone.