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Anonymous wrote:Why can't the transgendered person be the one who has to just deal with being uncomfortable, go to the bathroom that aligns with their biology and DNA, and close their stall door?

Because when a transwoman walks into a men's room, she opens herself up to violence and harassment by being a woman in the men's room. There has been a lot of violence done to transwomen in just this situation.

+1

Better to expose women to the violence, then the poor, poor "transwoman". After all, their safety is MUCH more important.

I'm going to say this again, and then I'm probably going to leave the thread because I'm getting frustrated, and none of us is going to convince the other to change her mind:

Violence is illegal. If a man dressed as a man goes into a woman's bathroom or locker room and exposes himself for sexual gratification, harasses a woman, and/or does a woman physical harm, the authorities should be involved the same thing applies if a man is dressed in women's clothing or says he identifies as a woman, OR if a transwoman does these things. There will be no change in anti-harassment or violence laws.

FWIW, I'm all for unisex single-stall bathrooms everywhere, and people (cis* or trans*) using them. I think that would eliminate a lot of these arguments and make nearly everyone more comfortable.

And I'm out.

This, alone, is the stupidest "compromise" I have ever heard of. No, it would not "eliminate a lot of these arguments and make everyone more comfortable." I do not want a man, real or pretending, standing next to me in the rest room. Period.

^Violence is illegal, and yet it still happens all the time.

And women, time and time again, are the ones expected to be "nice" and accommodate men, even when their safety is in danger.

Of course giving men legal access to women's bathrooms increases their chances of being able to commit a crime. It's absurd to say otherwise.

And statistics show that trans"women" are much more violent, and have many more mental health issues, than the general population.

Please think of women. And please think of young girls.

And please do your research next time before weighing in.

Thanks.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't the transgendered person be the one who has to just deal with being uncomfortable, go to the bathroom that aligns with their biology and DNA, and close their stall door?

Because when a transwoman walks into a men's room, she opens herself up to violence and harassment by being a woman in the men's room. There has been a lot of violence done to transwomen in just this situation.

+1

Better to expose women to the violence, then the poor, poor "transwoman". After all, their safety is MUCH more important.

I'm going to say this again, and then I'm probably going to leave the thread because I'm getting frustrated, and none of us is going to convince the other to change her mind:

Violence is illegal. If a man dressed as a man goes into a woman's bathroom or locker room and exposes himself for sexual gratification, harasses a woman, and/or does a woman physical harm, the authorities should be involved the same thing applies if a man is dressed in women's clothing or says he identifies as a woman, OR if a transwoman does these things. There will be no change in anti-harassment or violence laws.

FWIW, I'm all for unisex single-stall bathrooms everywhere, and people (cis* or trans*) using them. I think that would eliminate a lot of these arguments and make nearly everyone more comfortable.

And I'm out.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't the transgendered person be the one who has to just deal with being uncomfortable, go to the bathroom that aligns with their biology and DNA, and close their stall door?

Because when a transwoman walks into a men's room, she opens herself up to violence and harassment by being a woman in the men's room. There has been a lot of violence done to transwomen in just this situation.

+1

Better to expose women to the violence, then the poor, poor "transwoman". After all, their safety is MUCH more important.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't the transgendered person be the one who has to just deal with being uncomfortable, go to the bathroom that aligns with their biology and DNA, and close their stall door?

Because when a transwoman walks into a men's room, she opens herself up to violence and harassment by being a woman in the men's room. There has been a lot of violence done to transwomen in just this situation.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't the transgendered person be the one who has to just deal with being uncomfortable, go to the bathroom that aligns with their biology and DNA, and close their stall door?

Because when a transwoman walks into a men's room, she opens herself up to violence and harassment by being a woman in the men's room. There has been a lot of violence done to transwomen in just this situation.

Right, men are violent. I can understand that.

WHICH IS WHY I DON'T WANT MEN IN MY BATHROOMS EITHER!!!!

AMEN!!!

Anonymous wrote:I'm believe that I'm really an NBA player trapped inside an average body. Does that mean that I get to use the Wizards' locker room?

YES! And anyone who doesn't support that is a bigoted, closed minded hater.

I'm believe that I'm really an NBA player trapped inside an average body. Does that mean that I get to use the Wizards' locker room?

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't the transgendered person be the one who has to just deal with being uncomfortable, go to the bathroom that aligns with their biology and DNA, and close their stall door?

Because when a transwoman walks into a men's room, she opens herself up to violence and harassment by being a woman in the men's room. There has been a lot of violence done to transwomen in just this situation.

Right, men are violent. I can understand that.

WHICH IS WHY I DON'T WANT MEN IN MY BATHROOMS EITHER!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Society does NOT care about women. They love to pretend to be progressive, to be feminist.

But as soon as a man makes a demand that puts all women at risk, they are quick to side with the man. Women's preferences and feelings of safety be damned.

It's so sick.

FTR, a number of liberal "feminists" support this nonsense. Almost all male conservatives oppose it (as well as the vast majority of women). This is not a M vs F issue, it is just a small segment of radicals trying to change our societal norms.

Yes, this is why liberal feminism is so wrong. It has been coopted by "feminists" who essentially want to please men.

Radical feminism, all the way.

Many radical feminists are fighting HARD against these transgender measures. Many lesbians, as well.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's prudish that we all don't use the same bathroom no matter our gender or sexual orientation.

LOL!! Some people are just so dumb, and so naive, and so stupid.

Men would love this rule.

Sorry 13 year old girl feeling insecure about your body- we wouldn't want to be "prudish"- go get naked next to your classmate!

What a wonderful, compassionate stance to take!

You do realize the communal area of a restroom doesn't involve getting naked, right? Or are you saying the 13 year old is insecure about washing their hands?

Do you not understand the concept of locker rooms? This is the second time you seem to have missed it...

This is PP who previously misread the post with two points:

1. The PP you're responding to isn't me.
2. The top post in this thread directly refers to bathrooms. Nothing here about locker rooms.

Often, in schools, gyms, and plenty of places, the bathrooms and locker rooms are linked, as in you have to walk through one to get to the other. So if these laws are passed, it will affect locker rooms as well. I don't think it's difficult to realize that when people are talking about women "changing", they are meaning locker rooms.

Anyway, for future reference, if you didn't know, now you do.

Anonymous wrote:Society does NOT care about women. They love to pretend to be progressive, to be feminist.

But as soon as a man makes a demand that puts all women at risk, they are quick to side with the man. Women's preferences and feelings of safety be damned.

It's so sick.

FTR, a number of liberal "feminists" support this nonsense. Almost all male conservatives oppose it (as well as the vast majority of women). This is not a M vs F issue, it is just a small segment of radicals trying to change our societal norms.

Anonymous wrote:Why can't the transgendered person be the one who has to just deal with being uncomfortable, go to the bathroom that aligns with their biology and DNA, and close their stall door?

Because when a transwoman walks into a men's room, she opens herself up to violence and harassment by being a woman in the men's room. There has been a lot of violence done to transwomen in just this situation.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's prudish that we all don't use the same bathroom no matter our gender or sexual orientation.

LOL!! Some people are just so dumb, and so naive, and so stupid.

Men would love this rule.

Sorry 13 year old girl feeling insecure about your body- we wouldn't want to be "prudish"- go get naked next to your classmate!

What a wonderful, compassionate stance to take!

You do realize the communal area of a restroom doesn't involve getting naked, right? Or are you saying the 13 year old is insecure about washing their hands?

Do you not understand the concept of locker rooms? This is the second time you seem to have missed it...

This is PP who previously misread the post with two points:

1. The PP you're responding to isn't me.
2. The top post in this thread directly refers to bathrooms. Nothing here about locker rooms.

Why can't the transgendered person be the one who has to just deal with being uncomfortable, go to the bathroom that aligns with their biology and DNA, and close their stall door?