Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 11:34     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
So, I see "public health" is the red herring of the day, haha.


Sometimes an analogy (with context and history) helps those without reasoning ability come to grip with how policies and guidance are established at the Federal, State and County levels. Sorry for stretching you a little. I'll get back to the more familiar and appropriate Trump, Cruz, Carson, Rand, and Bush level of discourse.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 11:28     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
Right now in elementary we have three basic tiers, LD, GE, AAP. That is not adequate to capture the range of abilities. In middle school the levels expand (ex. Honors). In high school there is even more differentiation and the ability for a student to personalize a schedule based on strengths and interests.

I would like to see broad differentiation filter down to elementary schools. Because Level II, III and local IV are not cutting it for many.


I would like to see this happen too. I guess we all should vote or get rid of the school board if we don't get what we wish. I worry they may gut the system much like other public systems.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 11:25     Subject: Prepping for entry into AAP

So, I see "public health" is the red herring of the day, haha.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 11:16     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
Anonymous wrote:
Your kid with a very high IQ should not interfere with the pursuit of high performance by kids who have never measured their IQ, or even cared about IQ, but work and prep hard all the way to the top of the academic heap. This is a land of hard workers. At least this is what we are taught in American Studies. Our peoples have worked hard on the range, the farm , the classroom, at home, in prep parlors and on the athletic fields. Do you have a problem with this?


10:33. My position is that differentiation should cover the entire range of abilities from severe learning disabilities to exceptionally high abilities. I don't care if all labels of levels were stripped off (incl. AAP). Then those with exceptional abilities can have a smaller program like before and the next tier can have a specialized program and so on and so forth.


Like public health in the US do you expect the public schools in DC to provide this concierge education catered to a tier system of descending exceptional ability?


Right now in elementary we have three basic tiers, LD, GE, AAP. That is not adequate to capture the range of abilities. In middle school the levels expand (ex. Honors). In high school there is even more differentiation and the ability for a student to personalize a schedule based on strengths and interests.

I would like to see broad differentiation filter down to elementary schools. Because Level II, III and local IV are not cutting it for many.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 11:14     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
10:43, you seem to think that all kids are the same and that they can all learn in the same ways. Experience shows that children do not all learn in the same ways and they in fact can have very different needs. Public schools have not had a "one size fits all" model for a very long time; they instead try to meet the different learning needs of children by training teachers to work with different types of learners and setting up different classrooms so that children can be placed in the setting that is most appropriate for them.


No I don't, but some would claim they do not want to pay for this...much like public health for all! Go pay for it yourself...much like healthcare!!



Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 11:10     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
Like the public health system I am certain there are many Americans who would scrap public education as a deficit provoking unnecessary in our country. Education should be left to the marketplace much like one's health and well being, test prep, Kaplan, and Princeton review!!!
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 11:06     Subject: Prepping for entry into AAP

10:43, you seem to think that all kids are the same and that they can all learn in the same ways. Experience shows that children do not all learn in the same ways and they in fact can have very different needs. Public schools have not had a "one size fits all" model for a very long time; they instead try to meet the different learning needs of children by training teachers to work with different types of learners and setting up different classrooms so that children can be placed in the setting that is most appropriate for them.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 11:03     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
Your kid with a very high IQ should not interfere with the pursuit of high performance by kids who have never measured their IQ, or even cared about IQ, but work and prep hard all the way to the top of the academic heap. This is a land of hard workers. At least this is what we are taught in American Studies. Our peoples have worked hard on the range, the farm , the classroom, at home, in prep parlors and on the athletic fields. Do you have a problem with this?


10:33. My position is that differentiation should cover the entire range of abilities from severe learning disabilities to exceptionally high abilities. I don't care if all labels of levels were stripped off (incl. AAP). Then those with exceptional abilities can have a smaller program like before and the next tier can have a specialized program and so on and so forth.


Like public health in the US do you expect the public schools in DC to provide this concierge education catered to a tier system of descending exceptional ability?
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 10:57     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
Your idiotic sarcasm aside, that's the issue. There are plenty of challenges ahead but she's not getting them in the current construct of the AAP program. Just like most parents I just want my kids to be challenged appropriately in school and keep the love of learning.

I want my DD in class with other kids like her because it's healthy for her to know there are other people like her and to have other kids challenge her. At the base school, she was the weird one when she was trying to discuss topics that aren't of interest to most of her peers. It's hard to see your kid come home many days saying that she knows she's weird and is being called names or ostracized because she's different.

For those of you who are so flippant about this subject, I wish you would realize that this is a real issue for some parents with kids that have a very high IQ. This is not about bragging. Simply because you think that illustrates how ignorant you are of the realities of kids and parents of kids like this. Somedays I really wish she was a little more "normal" like her sibling. Trust me life is a lot more rainbows and unicorns for these kids.



We are in America. Like public health care why would any one in this country expect all the bells and whistles for public education? This is America. This is not sarcasm. This is the truth. You are blind to the truth in this country. With public health care one can't expect personalized health care in America. What makes you think with public education will come personalized education for your daughter. You are the idiot here not all these other posters who have heard Amerca's tune for ages regarding public health, public education or public anything! Pull yourself and daughter by your own bootstarps
and pay for the personalized education of your daughter it in the private sector...much like test prep!!!!
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 10:56     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
Anonymous wrote:
+1. I hate how we parents are expected to sit down and shut up because our children are exceptionally bright so everything should be simple and easy for them and us. It is not that way.


Why is it that exceptionally less bright kids (and their parents) who work hard academically and perform at the highest levels never worry about all those self-professed kids that are exceptionally bright with the "highest" IQs?


I was reacting to the person who said pp's child should just skip up to MIT. They were suggesting that pp's concern for her child was unreasonable.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 10:53     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
Anonymous wrote:Your kid with a very high IQ should not interfere with the pursuit of high performance by kids who have never measured their IQ, or even cared about IQ, but work and prep hard all the way to the top of the academic heap. This is a land of hard workers. At least this is what we are taught in American Studies. Our peoples have worked hard on the range, the farm , the classroom, at home, in prep parlors and on the athletic fields. Do you have a problem with this?


10:33. My position is that differentiation should cover the entire range of abilities from severe learning disabilities to exceptionally high abilities. I don't care if all labels of levels were stripped off (incl. AAP). Then those with exceptional abilities can have a smaller program like before and the next tier can have a specialized program and so on and so forth.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 10:48     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
+1. I hate how we parents are expected to sit down and shut up because our children are exceptionally bright so everything should be simple and easy for them and us. It is not that way.


Why is it that exceptionally less bright kids (and their parents) who work hard academically and perform at the highest levels never worry about all those self-professed kids that are exceptionally bright with the "highest" IQs?
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 10:43     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
Your kid with a very high IQ should not interfere with the pursuit of high performance by kids who have never measured their IQ, or even cared about IQ, but work and prep hard all the way to the top of the academic heap. This is a land of hard workers. At least this is what we are taught in American Studies. Our peoples have worked hard on the range, the farm , the classroom, at home, in prep parlors and on the athletic fields. Do you have a problem with this?
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 10:35     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
For those of you who are so flippant about this subject, I wish you would realize that this is a real issue for some parents with kids that have a very high IQ. This is not about bragging. Simply because you think that illustrates how ignorant you are of the realities of kids and parents of kids like this. Somedays I really wish she was a little more "normal" like her sibling. Trust me life is a lot more rainbows and unicorns for these kids.

It's not flippancy. It's a natural reaction to someone wanting a county program to revolve around their child. If you haven't figured it out yet, this thread is not so much about prepping as about themes of access, expectations and exclusivity. Prepping is just the scapegoat. Ever consider how many kids might have gone home crying because your kid didn't want to discuss something of interest to them? Take a broader view. Not all gifted kids pop out of a cookie cutter to your liking. If you are unhappy with AAP it can't possibly be the fault of prepped kids, who you seem to believe make up 90% of the class. Maybe it's a different school by school, but at ours the AAP kids are still just kids with different personalities, strengths and weaknesses.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2015 10:33     Subject: Re:Prepping for entry into AAP
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
pp here - one teacher called DD an intrinsic learner. We don't have to provide any type of help or motivation for her to learn new concepts. DC taught herself to read, we provided books like every parent, but within about 2 weeks when she was 3 we noticed she started fluently reading bob books, so we gave her level 1 books and she goes through books like water. Read the magic treehouse series on her own accord the summer after K. Math is the same way.

The aap program is not challenging for her from what I can see. HW gets done in after school care and I look at it but there is rarely ever a problem wrong. I've tried to offer help to study for tests but she just says - we went over it in class so I'm good - and rarely gets a wrong answer on a test. She does a lot of "learning" on her own outside of school.

Why is it so hard to believe that she did so well on the tests but didn't test prep?


Sounds like DD is ready for MIT. No need for hard work and prep. There are no challenges remaining. Perhaps even MIT will not challenge her. What to do? Just keep prepping...read voraciously.


Your idiotic sarcasm aside, that's the issue. There are plenty of challenges ahead but she's not getting them in the current construct of the AAP program. Just like most parents I just want my kids to be challenged appropriately in school and keep the love of learning.

I want my DD in class with other kids like her because it's healthy for her to know there are other people like her and to have other kids challenge her. At the base school, she was the weird one when she was trying to discuss topics that aren't of interest to most of her peers. It's hard to see your kid come home many days saying that she knows she's weird and is being called names or ostracized because she's different.

For those of you who are so flippant about this subject, I wish you would realize that this is a real issue for some parents with kids that have a very high IQ. This is not about bragging. Simply because you think that illustrates how ignorant you are of the realities of kids and parents of kids like this. Somedays I really wish she was a little more "normal" like her sibling. Trust me life is a lot more rainbows and unicorns for these kids.


+1. I hate how we parents are expected to sit down and shut up because our children are exceptionally bright so everything should be simple and easy for them and us. It is not that way.