Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 10:10     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
On the one hand I think the OP is being ridiculous.

On the other, I broke my arm twice as a kid. The first time, going to the beach the next day would have been no problem. The second time it was a very serious break. I had major surgery and was in hospital for a week. I could barely leave the house for about a month and couldn't do anything for myself. I had physical therapy three times a week for months and later several more surgeries.

I doubt that OP's son's break is as severe as my second broken arm, but in the unlikely chance that it is her position is more understandable. That said, it's no reason that her friends should shoulder the cost.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 08:07     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
Anonymous wrote:Say three families rent a house together for a vacation.

This year one family said they couldn't go. So the other two split the cost to pay for the reservation. Then the third family changed their mind and decided to join. So they paid their share to the families that already paid for the house.

The vacation is still two weeks away. Now one of the families had an emergency. Their DC broke an arm and they can't go to the beach.

Is it fair to ask the other families for a refund? Given it's most likely they will be using their room.



God no! that is tacky and classless - especially because they're all friends!

That said, what the heck kind of reason is that for canceling a family beach vacation? A broken arm is no bid deal, so this smells like a bogus reason to me. I think that the family with the "broken armed kid" just wants out of the vacation...maybe they can't afford it. but please don't try to say that its because your kid broke their arm - especially because the break is NOW, and the vacation is two weeks away.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2015 07:26     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
Obviously OP (and her DH?) planned on *relaxing* this trip while others (the older teens?) minded her 6 year old. Now that she has to actually parent on the vacation, it suddenly becomes very unappealing. Lame, OP.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 23:11     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
OP,

What beach are you going to in Florida? I bet I can find dozens of other fun activities for your child to do like aquariums, nature walks, turtle rescue centers, state parks, spraygrounds, etc. Florida has gorgeous state parks and tons of nature activities. So, if the ocean and pool are not in the cards, then improvise and do other fun things on this vacation.

I would NOT ask for money back because your reason for not going is not dire.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 19:41     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I have brittle bone disease and have broken over 150 times in my lifetime, I've been to the beach with broken legs and arms as a kid, sometimes both at the same time, even before waterproof casts. Your child can go to the beach. At worst, you put a garbage bag over with and secure it at the top with rubber bands, at best you get your regular cast replaced with a waterproof one. I am shocked you weren't asked do at the ortho when it went on. How long is the cast for? Kids these days need them for as little as two weeks sometimes.

You should already know whether you need surgery, I am not buying that you are going To find out and still don't know. If your child hasn't had surgery, then there are no open wounds on the skin. How is your child bathing? How is that different from wading in the pool or the ocean? Believe me, your ortho is going to say you can go.

You sound like you already made up your mind you don't want to go because you don't want to watch your child on thebeach during sunny days, but God forbid, what was your back up plan IF IT RAINS?????



Wow. I didnt think this was very survivable. I remember seeing an episode ages ago of that home improvement show where they put in squishy rubber floors all over for a boy that maybe had that?



There are many of us OIer who live long lives, and even have children, many even in the DMV area. Go here to see more. Www.oif.org

I find it hilarious when someone thinks a broken bone means your entire ire life just stops. OPP needs to teach herself and her child some resilience.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 16:58     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
OP, do you honestly believe that the kids are going to go to the beach and swim the WHOLE TIME. Most times, kids will stay on the beach and will go in the water sporadically to cool off.

If you didn't want to go on the vacation in the first place - which is more than likely the case - then you shouldn't have bought into the vacation.

And please don't ruin this experience for the kid. He'll probably have guilt thinking it is his fault the trip is cancelled.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:16     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:. Frankly, if I was one of the other families and you asked for a refund, not only would I not cover for you, but I would probably not want to include you on vacation plans in the future as you seem like a difficult person to deal with.


Can you contain yourself and not make personal insults and labels? It's just a discussion.

Hopefully, my friends are more understanding than you. When the other family decided to join us we could have said "no" too. Because we already booked a house and it's a little tight for so many people. We could have said they were "difficult" because twice before they said they would not be going. But yet we agreed. Because this is what friends do for each other. And because things happen.



actually no, it is totally different situation.

Family 3 decides they want to go, saving family 1 & 2 some money (extra spending money for vacay now) because now the house will be split 3 ways. TWO WEEKS prior to going you want to back out, which means that family needs to come up with the money to refund you adding expense they werent expecting at the last minute. And for reasons that really arent strong to cancel. Suck it up buttercup. You need to just go and grit your teeth, enjoy your child. Sounds like you expected the friends kids to be the babysitters.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:16     Subject: Re:Is it fair to ask for a refund?
Anonymous wrote:and something I don't think has been mentioned but once or twice, the OPs issue with the others using her room and not giving her a refund.


This concern of OP's seems similarly unfounded to me.

If you buy tickets to a concert with a group of friends and decide at the last minute not to go, you do not expect your friends to pay you because they will have the added space of your seat to enjoy.

If you RSVP to a potluck that you will be bringing 4 people to a potluck, but only bring two, you do not bring less food or expect the other guests to pay you for the food you are not eating.

If you pay for a yoga class and end up not going, you don't expect the rest of the students to pay you because there will be more room in the studio.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:13     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Then teach your child to enjoy the nature! WTF? Is it so difficult to hang out with your kid for the week? Go for walks, wade in, look for sea glass, set up an umbrella and play games. The possibilities are endless.


The possibilities are NOT endless. If you have to fill 8 hours with a 6 year old in 100 degree heat. If you've been there you'd know that walks on a beach under a burning sun in 95+ degrees are not fun. Staying in the house defeats the purpose of traveling.

And I'm not going to put myself in a position where I have to entertain a kid all day every day for a week - make up activities and games to fill time. I have a life too, you know.

So the only possibility is if the child can be in the water. I'll order a waterproof cover and wait and see what the doctor will tell us.



well there is it. OP is going to be a self centered bitch and spoil the fun for everyone, because she cant or doesnt want to come up with activities for her 6 yo. WOW

I sure wish I knew these other 2 familes so this post could be shared with them. I wouldnt give you one dime back. Suck it up

I have a 6 yo and can think of a LOT of stuff to keep him busy with, both with my attention as well as on his own. Unreal!

Yeah, that comment pretty much put her out of mother of the year contention.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:10     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
Anonymous wrote:I am definitely in the "go to the beach" camp. However, I would like to note that even the "waterproof" fiberglass casts should not get wet because they don't dry out quickly enough which causes a lot of nasty skin problems. I don't think anyone uses plaster anymore - they all use fiberglass, but you still can't get it wet.


True, but people have been recommending cast covers. The DryPro one costs about $35 and vacuum seals.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:09     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
Why does every single thread wind up with a bunch of posts calling the OP a bitch and an asshole?
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:05     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
I am definitely in the "go to the beach" camp. However, I would like to note that even the "waterproof" fiberglass casts should not get wet because they don't dry out quickly enough which causes a lot of nasty skin problems. I don't think anyone uses plaster anymore - they all use fiberglass, but you still can't get it wet.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:03     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Then teach your child to enjoy the nature! WTF? Is it so difficult to hang out with your kid for the week? Go for walks, wade in, look for sea glass, set up an umbrella and play games. The possibilities are endless.


The possibilities are NOT endless. If you have to fill 8 hours with a 6 year old in 100 degree heat. If you've been there you'd know that walks on a beach under a burning sun in 95+ degrees are not fun. Staying in the house defeats the purpose of traveling.

And I'm not going to put myself in a position where I have to entertain a kid all day every day for a week - make up activities and games to fill time. I have a life too, you know.

So the only possibility is if the child can be in the water. I'll order a waterproof cover and wait and see what the doctor will tell us.



well there is it. OP is going to be a self centered bitch and spoil the fun for everyone, because she cant or doesnt want to come up with activities for her 6 yo. WOW

I sure wish I knew these other 2 familes so this post could be shared with them. I wouldnt give you one dime back. Suck it up

I have a 6 yo and can think of a LOT of stuff to keep him busy with, both with my attention as well as on his own. Unreal!
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 12:59     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

The PP is an ass, but I think you're also being purposely obtuse. There's nothing else to do at this rental? You planned on being in the water from sun up to sun down every day of vacation? Really? Why would you pay to travel to Florida in a place nice enough to split with two other families when you could have done the same here for the price of a community pool pass?


Speak for yourself. I pay to enjoy the nature. There are dolphins and turtles, and dunes. This is not a tourist trap and there are no attractions, no entertainment. Maybe a couple small stores, tops. Yet if you're not in the water, you can't just seat out on a hot day there.

What else can you do in the rental? You can stay inside the house. Why would I travel so far to do that?

I'm looking into waterproof cast covers. And waiting what the orthopedic specialist will say.


Honestly I can't believe you'd cancel your vacation over this - particularly when there are other kids involved. But to each his own. Your original question though about refund? You should not expect one. What have the other families said? Its really up to them how they want to handle this.



My bet, the other families are in disbelief as we are that OP is cancelling out all for a broken arm. Wow! If it were a funeral, severe illness, kid needs to go to summer school and cant miss then yes. Although the ss issue, when my sister had to go to summer school, one of my parents stayed home with her while I went with the other overseas to visit family.

Sounds like OP is the one who is not liking the fact that they are going to lose their money because others think it is a stupid reason

Honestly, go and the kid will have fun. Or stay home but dont expect money back. If it were me as one of those families i sure wouldnt see fit to give back a dime
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 12:48     Subject: Is it fair to ask for a refund?
Anonymous wrote:OP, I have brittle bone disease and have broken over 150 times in my lifetime, I've been to the beach with broken legs and arms as a kid, sometimes both at the same time, even before waterproof casts. Your child can go to the beach. At worst, you put a garbage bag over with and secure it at the top with rubber bands, at best you get your regular cast replaced with a waterproof one. I am shocked you weren't asked do at the ortho when it went on. How long is the cast for? Kids these days need them for as little as two weeks sometimes.

You should already know whether you need surgery, I am not buying that you are going To find out and still don't know. If your child hasn't had surgery, then there are no open wounds on the skin. How is your child bathing? How is that different from wading in the pool or the ocean? Believe me, your ortho is going to say you can go.

You sound like you already made up your mind you don't want to go because you don't want to watch your child on thebeach during sunny days, but God forbid, what was your back up plan IF IT RAINS?????



Wow. I didnt think this was very survivable. I remember seeing an episode ages ago of that home improvement show where they put in squishy rubber floors all over for a boy that maybe had that?