Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 20:35     Subject: College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This list is not an advertisement for the high school. It is a congratulatory note to children who have just competed 12'years of schooling.


It is a congratulatory note that lists the colleges to which they have been accepted.

The kids did great - I'm happy for all of them.

But when I look at the list to evaluate Latin, I see three of the USNWR top 50 schools overall (Case Western Reserve, U of Rochester, Penn State), four of the top 50 liberal arts colleges (Barnard, Colby College, Lafayette, Oberlin, Denison), and three of the top 50 public schools (U of Maryland. Rutgers, Vermont) .

To me that does not look great - I'd like to see more highly rated schools. But maybe I am missing something. (And yes, I know the USNWR ratings are not the be-all and end-all of lists).



Pp, you clearly run a tight ship. Do know that a lot of adolescents shrug off parental guidance like yesterday's unfashionable clothes. You may come to value a school that treats your teen as a person, not a stat, and values them as much as you do.

Tell me you don't know the U.S. News rankings by heart.


Of course I don't. I went and looked them up so I could provide some actual factual information for this thread instead of ridiculous and unprovable banter about how kids at Latin love learning so much and their families cry when they leave.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 20:14     Subject: College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jesus, how obtuse are you people? Consider what most kids in DC do.

FWIW, I had terrific scores and grades and I went to a school in that same range as those listed above because it is where I got the best scholarship. In my HS, which was probably similar to Latin, my acceptance into that school and scholarships (as well as those of others like me) was a source of pride for the teachers.

Maybe it seems unsophisticated now, but for the first person in a family going to college it is a big deal.


A valid point. But for those of us in a different demographic (ie, high income, not the first in our family to attend college), this is a disappointing list.


OK. So don't send your kid there. I would love get my kids into a DCPS school that graduates nearly all its students and sends most of them to college. Honestly, if this is what's important to you, you'll likely be happier elsewhere.


I forgot what snobs people can be. This thread has reminded me. There are some very smart, and probably pretty nice, people who are terrible snobs when incognito, thinking mainly about how things will look to other snobs, not about their true value
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 20:07     Subject: Re:College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
"...of ridiculous and unprovable banter about how kids at Latin love learning so much and their families cry when they leave."

Wow. I get that you want statistics/facts, and I have no problem with that. But your snide comment above reveals a great deal about your contemptuous attitude toward people who are happy that that children at Latin love learning. You think that's "ridiculous banter"?

Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 20:04     Subject: College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This list is not an advertisement for the high school. It is a congratulatory note to children who have just competed 12'years of schooling.


It is a congratulatory note that lists the colleges to which they have been accepted.

The kids did great - I'm happy for all of them.

But when I look at the list to evaluate Latin, I see three of the USNWR top 50 schools overall (Case Western Reserve, U of Rochester, Penn State), four of the top 50 liberal arts colleges (Barnard, Colby College, Lafayette, Oberlin, Denison), and three of the top 50 public schools (U of Maryland. Rutgers, Vermont) .

To me that does not look great - I'd like to see more highly rated schools. But maybe I am missing something. (And yes, I know the USNWR ratings are not the be-all and end-all of lists).



Tell me you don't know the U.S. News rankings by heart.


Of course I don't. I went and looked them up so I could provide some actual factual information for this thread instead of ridiculous and unprovable banter about how kids at Latin love learning so much and their families cry when they leave.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 19:07     Subject: College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This list is not an advertisement for the high school. It is a congratulatory note to children who have just competed 12'years of schooling.


It is a congratulatory note that lists the colleges to which they have been accepted.

The kids did great - I'm happy for all of them.

But when I look at the list to evaluate Latin, I see three of the USNWR top 50 schools overall (Case Western Reserve, U of Rochester, Penn State), four of the top 50 liberal arts colleges (Barnard, Colby College, Lafayette, Oberlin, Denison), and three of the top 50 public schools (U of Maryland. Rutgers, Vermont) .

To me that does not look great - I'd like to see more highly rated schools. But maybe I am missing something. (And yes, I know the USNWR ratings are not the be-all and end-all of lists).



I think you are missing the fact that as another person said, these kids got into what was for them "personal reach" schools. Just look at the DC CAS scores at the HS, the ranking of which which is at least one below the MS (reward vs something), and the fact that the MS scored 2nd to Deal two years ago and 3rd (switching places with Basis) this year, while the high school is nowhere near that, the difference in the economic positions of the MS vs the HS, and realize that the times, they are a changing.

These kids who are graduating now, like the kids who are at the first four classes at BASIS, took a huge risk on an unproven school to escape their neighborhoods. Latin had only been in existence for 4 years at the time. And if you JUST are starting Washington Latin now, if your "heart is beating for MIT" you should have gone to BASIS, but otherwise you and your kid are going to be just fine as long as you work to reverse the 4 year declines delineated in the Tier I / Tier 2 thread below. THAT is really what MS parents should be worrying about, NOT college acceptances for this class, which given their composition and their need for scholarship money (and their success in getting it) I think is pretty darn impressive.

Congratulations to the Washington Latin senior class of 2015!

Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 16:19     Subject: College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This list is not an advertisement for the high school. It is a congratulatory note to children who have just competed 12'years of schooling.


It is a congratulatory note that lists the colleges to which they have been accepted.

The kids did great - I'm happy for all of them.

But when I look at the list to evaluate Latin, I see three of the USNWR top 50 schools overall (Case Western Reserve, U of Rochester, Penn State), four of the top 50 liberal arts colleges (Barnard, Colby College, Lafayette, Oberlin, Denison), and three of the top 50 public schools (U of Maryland. Rutgers, Vermont) .

To me that does not look great - I'd like to see more highly rated schools. But maybe I am missing something. (And yes, I know the USNWR ratings are not the be-all and end-all of lists).



Tell me you don't know the U.S. News rankings by heart.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 16:15     Subject: College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jesus, how obtuse are you people? Consider what most kids in DC do.

FWIW, I had terrific scores and grades and I went to a school in that same range as those listed above because it is where I got the best scholarship. In my HS, which was probably similar to Latin, my acceptance into that school and scholarships (as well as those of others like me) was a source of pride for the teachers.

Maybe it seems unsophisticated now, but for the first person in a family going to college it is a big deal.


A valid point. But for those of us in a different demographic (ie, high income, not the first in our family to attend college), this is a disappointing list.


OK. So don't send your kid there. I would love get my kids into a DCPS school that graduates nearly all its students and sends most of them to college. Honestly, if this is what's important to you, you'll likely be happier elsewhere.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 12:56     Subject: Re:College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
The thing is, im not sure where all this worry over the top academic kids at Latin comes from. Those kids end up just fine. Like everyone who had the pre reqs they can take honors and APs, there are SAT and ACT prep, they are taught and given opps to practice writing, speaking, thinking, interviewing. If they are destined for MIT they'll get there..no offense to Latin graduates (including my own kid) - I dont think we've had many yet whose hearts were beating for that. I'm sure they'll.come, and they'll get where they need to. My sense from having been through it is there are a lot of happy kids who ended up in personal reach schools.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 12:43     Subject: College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jesus, how obtuse are you people? Consider what most kids in DC do.

FWIW, I had terrific scores and grades and I went to a school in that same range as those listed above because it is where I got the best scholarship. In my HS, which was probably similar to Latin, my acceptance into that school and scholarships (as well as those of others like me) was a source of pride for the teachers.

Maybe it seems unsophisticated now, but for the first person in a family going to college it is a big deal.


A valid point. But for those of us in a different demographic (ie, high income, not the first in our family to attend college), this is a disappointing list.


Then why are you even considering Latin? It is clearly not for you.


Because other than Latin and Basis, where is a white person in PP's demographic supposed to go if they don't want Walls/private/move?


NP but OMG. Suffice to say I think the 'where can the white kids go' comment was sarcastic/tongue in cheek.





We went to Basis for precisely that reason, and we think we made the right decision in terms of getting into college and for our type of kid. But another poster was right, there has been a HUGE demographic shift in the last few years - when we made the decision the high SES kids at Latin were still peeling off for privates for high school and this was not an economic option for us.

The MS DC CAS scores were in the top 3 the last two years - along with Deal and Basis. And the kids are staying. Nevertheless, you might want to read the thread about why Latin dropped from a Tier I to a Tier 2 school because it does NOT say good things about how it handles its most academically advanced kids, or year to year progress of individual kids as opposed to the entire MS........... And a lot of Latin parents are blowing off actual statistics.

But the economic composition of the high school and the MS are completely different (the MS is now around 20% FARMS, around where Deal is), the DC CAS scores at the high school are much lower, and as this shift kicks in as long as they get their act together on the advanced kids (which I hope they do, but they failed to acknowledge a 4 year downward trend in their letter of both MGP and declining numbers of kids scoring advanced in the MS), I think and hope you will see college acceptances more like Walls and the top Wilson students who are not so pressured by economics........
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 12:29     Subject: College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jesus, how obtuse are you people? Consider what most kids in DC do.

FWIW, I had terrific scores and grades and I went to a school in that same range as those listed above because it is where I got the best scholarship. In my HS, which was probably similar to Latin, my acceptance into that school and scholarships (as well as those of others like me) was a source of pride for the teachers.

Maybe it seems unsophisticated now, but for the first person in a family going to college it is a big deal.


A valid point. But for those of us in a different demographic (ie, high income, not the first in our family to attend college), this is a disappointing list.


Then why are you even considering Latin? It is clearly not for you.


Because other than Latin and Basis, where is a white person in PP's demographic supposed to go if they don't want Walls/private/move?


We went to Basis for precisely that reason, and we think we made the right decision in terms of getting into college and for our type of kid. But another poster was right, there has been a HUGE demographic shift in the last few years - when we made the decision the high SES kids at Latin were still peeling off for privates for high school and this was not an economic option for us.

The MS DC CAS scores were in the top 3 the last two years - along with Deal and Basis. And the kids are staying. Nevertheless, you might want to read the thread about why Latin dropped from a Tier I to a Tier 2 school because it does NOT say good things about how it handles its most academically advanced kids, or year to year progress of individual kids as opposed to the entire MS........... And a lot of Latin parents are blowing off actual statistics.

But the economic composition of the high school and the MS are completely different (the MS is now around 20% FARMS, around where Deal is), the DC CAS scores at the high school are much lower, and as this shift kicks in as long as they get their act together on the advanced kids (which I hope they do, but they failed to acknowledge a 4 year downward trend in their letter of both MGP and declining numbers of kids scoring advanced in the MS), I think and hope you will see college acceptances more like Walls and the top Wilson students who are not so pressured by economics........
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 12:07     Subject: College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
It's certainly a very solid college record overall. Other schools, like Wilson, are have more of a barbell distribution, which a list of post high school institutions might look like this:

Yale
Oberlin
U of Michigan
U of Maryland
....

DC Jail
Federal Correctional Facility Western Maryland
Virginia State Prison.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 10:37     Subject: Re:College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
Ok, its a.congratulations/advertisment : If class sizes of 16, learning Latin/French or Arabic, Yale and Princeton educated teachers who also lead sports and clubs and are just generally nice funny and accessible, a school.so small that 12th graders know and look out for incoming 9th graders, massive cultural and economic diversity, the message that "words matter", a minimal party climate (the kids idea of a good time.is going to the park for Frisbee and watching a movie all night, high learning, writing, reading, math and science engagement/low hw for hw's sake, and ending up in Oberlin as a high average student doesn't sound good there are certainly.other options in town. Oh - its free too, as will be college , at least partially, for many of these kids.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 09:48     Subject: College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This list is not an advertisement for the high school. It is a congratulatory note to children who have just competed 12'years of schooling.


THIS!


No, it's an advertisement. If the admin were only congratulating the students with no co-motive, the admin would've kept it totally in-house.

On a members-only password-protected area -- like my child's school does. Or (and my kids don't go there) like the similarly sized Maret and Sidwell do.

Still, kudos to the Latin graduating class. It sounds like a solid education and a safe place for a lot of kids who otherwise wouldn't reach the same heights.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2015 09:08     Subject: College Acceptances for Washington Latin High School
Anonymous wrote:This list is not an advertisement for the high school. It is a congratulatory note to children who have just competed 12'years of schooling.


THIS!