Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what would it take for you to want to send your 6th grader to Jefferson or Eliot Hine? Seriously. Give us a list.

See, CHPSPO, this is what you do. You put the pressure on me to give you a succinct list of items, where if the boxes were all checked, I'd then send my child off to these schools. I'm supposed to say all of the usual desires: "honors program, improved facilities, diversity of population, engaged teachers, an administration who will 'work with me, children in the seats next to him who are receiving wrap-around services for the million traumas they're receiving when they aren't in that seat'" and then you go down that list one-by-one and write most of the items off as my either being racist/elitist or problems that are my own fault because I'm not involved enough.

It's a pretty short list hon: a school where I'm confident my kid will get a solid education and have a positive social experience.

Go!

PP, you hit the nail on the head. Keep fighting. I too am disgusted with this CHPSPO idiocy.

^ thanks for illustrating my point so beautifully here for our readers pp. I'm afraid of poor, challenged, black kids. That's it. And my only solution is to go to a charter school 30 minutes away (one I'll be lucky to get into) where they "cherry pick" students and where my "snowflake" won't have to coexist with the icky kids that I really think should just be drowned in the Anacostia (nice touch, was that the second glass of wine talking?)

Remember everyone, I'M the asshole, not PP. Not her for "stomping her feet" and disallowing a charter to start up in a feasible, accessible area where the potential diversity of said school might actually be a benefit to ALL of the kids who might attend (including those pesky poor black ones) and where all attendees would benefit from the population of students having an engaged parental population.

But you know, I guess I should just go to these meetings and get to know some parents, because that's obviously the only reason I don't agree with PP. Because I, sure all I'd have to do is say this out loud and you'd never try to shame me the way you have here would you?

Anonymous wrote:Once again CHPSPO, you can't address the above, so I'M the asshole again. "Go on to NW and your charters then!" I'm not obsesses I just want a viable school in my neighborhood.

So, what, your solution is to somehow magically wave a wand to turn those who're 20% "below basically proficient" (many of whom happen to be special education cases by the way) into geniuses; paint black children white, or drown the 99% FARMS kids in the Anacostia River (99 is not actual data but a placeholder for more >60%)? Miraculously, some of us have learned to coexist and not be doomed, no matter how vigorously you're stamping your feet. It's not for the faint of heart.

Once again CHPSPO, you can't address the above, so I'M the asshole again. "Go on to NW and your charters then!" I'm not obsesses I just want a viable school in my neighborhood.

Anonymous wrote:Because I want to be clear that we're talking about schools where a full 20% of the students can't read or do math and where the diversity exists of 99% AA and 99% FARMS. So if you know PLENTY of families it's working for in terms of diversity and academics, you must know them ALL.

So, again, why your obsession here? You obviously see what you want to see and have made up your mind. What point are you trying to prove? That we must all follow you to Basis or be doomed?

Anonymous wrote:It's also really difficult to weigh in publicly on being pro-charter options given this "PCSB and DCPS need to coordinate" quote, which is code for "ain't gonna happen, you open a charter you'll never fix Hine, so not in my watch."

So, while I appreciate Joe's thoughtful response here and I don't entirely disagree with his politics, I'm struggling with what to do for my 4th grader. MY fourth grader needs options.

Joe, will you still send your daughter to Hine if the modernization doesn't happen? How many of these other families at Maury are truly going to make the jump to Hine with you or are simply too afraid of being called a bigot so they're lying about their intentions?

Given what I know of the school id rather lottery into SH, or try my hand at Brookland or Hardy for MS. Charters make much more sense when you have a mayor saying "find the money elsewhere, all of MY DCPS cap budget is going to ward 4!" She and Kaya certainly aren't making me feel welcome, and are saying "deal with it" to boot. THAT'S what kills DCPS, not charters.

What part of ward 4 are you referring to as far as the money?

Because I want to be clear that we're talking about schools where a full 20% of the students can't read or do math and where the diversity exists of 99% AA and 99% FARMS. So if you know PLENTY of families it's working for in terms of diversity and academics, you must know them ALL.

^ plenty? Define plenty please.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what would it take for you to want to send your 6th grader to Jefferson or Eliot Hine? Seriously. Give us a list.

See, CHPSPO, this is what you do. You put the pressure on me to give you a succinct list of items, where if the boxes were all checked, I'd then send my child off to these schools. I'm supposed to say all of the usual desires: "honors program, improved facilities, diversity of population, engaged teachers, an administration who will 'work with me, children in the seats next to him who are receiving wrap-around services for the million traumas they're receiving when they aren't in that seat'" and then you go down that list one-by-one and write most of the items off as my either being racist/elitist or problems that are my own fault because I'm not involved enough.

It's a pretty short list hon: a school where I'm confident my kid will get a solid education and have a positive social experience.

Go!

And what would you say if I told you that's precisely what you'd get - minus the renovation, at least for now. Of course you can't know that because you know no one with kids in either school. You couldn't be bothered to find out. Yet, you're writing here with high-minded confidence. Please take your rage and disappointment elsewhere. There are plenty who actually do make it work and whose kids are thriving. I know them and trust that first-hand experience.

You don't need a list. Go visit: Latin and BASIS.

Anonymous wrote:unfortunately, Tommy didn't do anything about the loss of the Wilson feed either. I asked him about it at a community meeting and he said he never met anyone who moved to SW because of the school boundary. He was a total fool. And Allen's opponent also lived in the Eastern boundary and had a little kid, so was similarly uninterested in keeping Wilson an option for his potential constituents.

No self-respecting Democrat could argue for that ridiculous boundary.

Anonymous wrote:what would it take for you to want to send your 6th grader to Jefferson or Eliot Hine? Seriously. Give us a list.

See, CHPSPO, this is what you do. You put the pressure on me to give you a succinct list of items, where if the boxes were all checked, I'd then send my child off to these schools. I'm supposed to say all of the usual desires: "honors program, improved facilities, diversity of population, engaged teachers, an administration who will 'work with me, children in the seats next to him who are receiving wrap-around services for the million traumas they're receiving when they aren't in that seat'" and then you go down that list one-by-one and write most of the items off as my either being racist/elitist or problems that are my own fault because I'm not involved enough.

It's a pretty short list hon: a school where I'm confident my kid will get a solid education and have a positive social experience.

Go!

what would it take for you to want to send your 6th grader to Jefferson or Eliot Hine? Seriously. Give us a list.

I didn't vote for bowser, and don't know anyone in ward 6 who did, so there's your "screw you ward 6" 'tude.

I did vote for Allen though because I thought he got the issues of MS and would fight where needed, but I see he has become neutered by the very valiant belief that charters are poison and it's his/chief of staff's/CHPSPO's way or you're welcome to move on to NW now... And I don't want to and I want diversity and I love the hill but can we come on now people? I'm not sending my kid to Hine or Jefferson with those scores and those facilities and DCPS couldn't give less of a crap. Try again in 5 years - or 10 when YOUR kid isn't the lamb. Don't look me in the eye and tell me "what's best."

unfortunately, Tommy didn't do anything about the loss of the Wilson feed either. I asked him about it at a community meeting and he said he never met anyone who moved to SW because of the school boundary. He was a total fool. And Allen's opponent also lived in the Eastern boundary and had a little kid, so was similarly uninterested in keeping Wilson an option for his potential constituents.