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What is "real" math? Math is math. There are different ways to teach it. What is multiplication ... it's adding up that number x number of times. What is our numbering system based on ... 10. You show an 8 yr old those two concepts. That is real math.

And you sound unhinged.

When someone can't make a valid logical argument they stoop to personal attacks. I'm not falling for low brow MCPS tactics and won't stoop to your level.

Physically drawing 100 boxes of groups of 10 to represent a thousand, and continuing with this exercise to represent a million is a giant time suck and of zero teaching value. It's busy work, plain and simple.

And that other PP was not personally attacking? What makes you think I work for MCPS? What makes you think that the only people that see value in different ways of teaching math is working for MCPS?

I think perhaps you have a comprehension problem. I didn't state to draw 100 boxes. I said to start small, then eventually draw 10 boxes, where one box represents 100K. That's not busy work, but a pictorial representation of how multiplication works. My 6 yr old has started to understand this concept, taught to her by the older sibling who both memorized the multiplication table in 3rd grade and learned about boxes and dots under curriculum 2.0 (that's MCPS CC standards based curriculum) in previous years. Older DC is now in compacted math.

What is "real" math? Math is math. There are different ways to teach it. What is multiplication ... it's adding up that number x number of times. What is our numbering system based on ... 10. You show an 8 yr old those two concepts. That is real math.

And you sound unhinged.

When someone can't make a valid logical argument they stoop to personal attacks. I'm not falling for low brow MCPS tactics and won't stoop to your level.

Physically drawing 100 boxes of groups of 10 to represent a thousand, and continuing with this exercise to represent a million is a giant time suck and of zero teaching value. It's busy work, plain and simple.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a handout for each unit for parents. You should ask for that if the teacher isn't already sending it home.

A handout that shows how they are teaching math?

A handout that shows what they are teaching.

Right but I want to know how they are explaining it to the kids so I can do it the same way. I know its not rocket science but it also not how I learned math.

Agreed... they have this method of sticks and dots for teaching math. We where having a discussion at home and the dollar amount million came up and my 8 year old asked how many sticks and dots that would be.

I just couldn't believe this is what math is not for primary grades in MoCo. Pathetic

You missed a great teaching point here. You ask the 8 yr old, what does the stick represent? He should answer "10". You then ask, "How many 10's would make a million?" You start small... "how many 10s in 100" then move up from there. Group the 10's into 100 boxes, etc... Then you show how "10" - 100,000 boxes (not that you draw 100K boxes, you just draw a box that represents 100K) make one million, and that is multiplication.

Are you kidding me??? You seriously think this is a worthwhile exercise to do and that any real math is being taught???? This is something an English major would suggest. What an enormous waste of time.

You sound like an MCPS shill go back to writing your crap Curriculum 2.0 worksheet that you will send out to the classrooms tomorrow.

What is "real" math? Math is math. There are different ways to teach it. What is multiplication ... it's adding up that number x number of times. What is our numbering system based on ... 10. You show an 8 yr old those two concepts. That is real math.

And you sound unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a handout for each unit for parents. You should ask for that if the teacher isn't already sending it home.

A handout that shows how they are teaching math?

A handout that shows what they are teaching.

Right but I want to know how they are explaining it to the kids so I can do it the same way. I know its not rocket science but it also not how I learned math.

Agreed... they have this method of sticks and dots for teaching math. We where having a discussion at home and the dollar amount million came up and my 8 year old asked how many sticks and dots that would be.

I just couldn't believe this is what math is not for primary grades in MoCo. Pathetic

You missed a great teaching point here. You ask the 8 yr old, what does the stick represent? He should answer "10". You then ask, "How many 10's would make a million?" You start small... "how many 10s in 100" then move up from there. Group the 10's into 100 boxes, etc... Then you show how "10" - 100,000 boxes (not that you draw 100K boxes, you just draw a box that represents 100K) make one million, and that is multiplication.

Are you kidding me??? You seriously think this is a worthwhile exercise to do and that any real math is being taught???? This is something an English major would suggest. What an enormous waste of time.

You sound like an MCPS shill go back to writing your crap Curriculum 2.0 worksheet that you will send out to the classrooms tomorrow.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is a mess because the leadership and teachers are not in synch or philosophically aligned with the goals and aspirations of the students they purport to lead and teach. In light of this disconnect, for an example, it should not surprise anyone, the leadership of MCPS does not even reflect the goals and aspirations of the large contingent of immigrant families in the County. They pay taxes but have no representation.

Goals and asprirations of the large educated Indian and Asian legal immigrants? Or the goals and aspirations of the large, uneducated hispanic illegal immigrants? Love to hear what they are and what they themselves are doing to achieve them.
Politicians cater to the later for sure, al redirected, redistributed tax funds to to them in MoCo.

Everybody from Asia (including India, which is in Asia) is a legal immigrant, and educated? Everybody from Central and South America is an illegal immigrant, and uneducated? The things I learn on DCUM.

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is a mess because the leadership and teachers are not in synch or philosophically aligned with the goals and aspirations of the students they purport to lead and teach. In light of this disconnect, for an example, it should not surprise anyone, the leadership of MCPS does not even reflect the goals and aspirations of the large contingent of immigrant families in the County. They pay taxes but have no representation.

Goals and asprirations of the large educated Indian and Asian legal immigrants? Or the goals and aspirations of the large, uneducated hispanic illegal immigrants? Love to hear what they are and what they themselves are doing to achieve them.
Politicians cater to the later for sure, al redirected, redistributed tax funds to to them in MoCo.

I have continued to teach Math to my kids from textbooks that was used pre-2.0.

I ask them how the teachers explain the same concept to other students, and they are able to make the connections.

Regardless of the terminology they use, in the end, Math is Math. Go ahead and teach your kids using older textbooks.

It is a lot of work, no doubt, but I have seen that my kids actually do better in tests (both in terms of speed and accuracy) because I teach them the pre-2.0 Math.

I think of 2.0 Math as just another way to explain Math concepts. It will work for some people, no doubt. However, I believe that other methods also work. I am ok to use as many as necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a handout for each unit for parents. You should ask for that if the teacher isn't already sending it home.

A handout that shows how they are teaching math?

A handout that shows what they are teaching.

Right but I want to know how they are explaining it to the kids so I can do it the same way. I know its not rocket science but it also not how I learned math.

My child's school holds a math curriculum night where teachers talk about topics like that and answer questions from parents. It's very useful.

that is awesome. not sure if our school does that but I'm going to check.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a handout for each unit for parents. You should ask for that if the teacher isn't already sending it home.

A handout that shows how they are teaching math?

A handout that shows what they are teaching.

Right but I want to know how they are explaining it to the kids so I can do it the same way. I know its not rocket science but it also not how I learned math.

Agreed... they have this method of sticks and dots for teaching math. We where having a discussion at home and the dollar amount million came up and my 8 year old asked how many sticks and dots that would be.

I just couldn't believe this is what math is not for primary grades in MoCo. Pathetic

You missed a great teaching point here. You ask the 8 yr old, what does the stick represent? He should answer "10". You then ask, "How many 10's would make a million?" You start small... "how many 10s in 100" then move up from there. Group the 10's into 100 boxes, etc... Then you show how "10" - 100,000 boxes (not that you draw 100K boxes, you just draw a box that represents 100K) make one million, and that is multiplication.

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Is it too much to ask a school system with a 2.29 BILLION dollar budget, to effectively teach math? Why should I have to work my butt off paying taxes, the school system take half of a weatlhy county like MoCo's tax base and then have to teach my child basic math at home at night? Does that really make sense to you.

Come on, this is not cutting edge rocket science, it's basic education.

There is no excuse for this shit curriculum that has been foisted on our kids.

Math education may not be cutting-edge rocket science, but it is definitely more complicated than "I teach, you learn".

Have you read this article about math education? It's very good: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/why-do-americans-stink-at-math.html?_r=0

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Agreed... they have this method of sticks and dots for teaching math. We where having a discussion at home and the dollar amount million came up and my 8 year old asked how many sticks and dots that would be.

I just couldn't believe this is what math is not for primary grades in MoCo. Pathetic

My 8-year-old has not said anything about sticks and dots. Perhaps your 8-year-old misunderstood? Alternatively, they do represent place value with drawings of different-sized objects. For example, the number 134 might be represented by a box (for the one hundred), three smaller rectangles (for the three tens), and 4 dots (for the four ones). Maybe that is what your 8-year-old is talking about? I think that this is effective visual representation of place value, and it's useful for learning about composing/decomposing (aka regrouping, aka borrowing and carrying). Also, it was in the MCPS curriculum before 2.0.

[quote]Is it too much to ask a school system with a 2.29 BILLION dollar budget, to effectively teach math? Why should I have to work my butt off paying taxes, the school system take half of a weatlhy county like MoCo's tax base and then have to teach my child basic math at home at night? Does that really make sense to you.

Come on, this is not cutting edge rocket science, it's basic education.

There is no excuse for this shit curriculum that has been foisted on our kids.